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2/25/2008 8:15:12 PM EDT
Alright guys what are some good Medium sized dog breeds? Im looking for a breed that would grow to somewhere between 20-35lbs, have short hair, and be good in my small apartment. Also a very loyal breed would be nice..

so what kinda breeds are out there?
2/25/2008 8:19:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Mini GSD?  
2/25/2008 8:28:22 PM EDT
[#2]
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2/25/2008 8:29:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Black or Yellow Labs.

HH
2/25/2008 8:30:48 PM EDT
[#4]

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Black or Yellow Labs.

HH


Uh, black or yellow labs usually hit 20-35 lbs at 3 months of age.  My two labs are 70 lbs (girl) and 95 lbs (boy) respectively.
2/25/2008 8:31:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Something from the pound?  I firmly beleive the best dogs are those that are saved from the pound and they realize/know it.
2/25/2008 8:33:23 PM EDT
[#6]

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Something from the pound?  I firmly beleive the best dogs are those that are saved from the pound and they realize/know it.


x2  

The one purebred dog we have purchased has been a nightmare in terms of vet bills.
2/25/2008 8:35:02 PM EDT
[#7]
A Beagle..ftw
2/25/2008 8:35:56 PM EDT
[#8]
If you will get him outside often, I would go for an Australian Cattle Dog. I don't think there is any more loyal or smater of a dog.

2/25/2008 8:39:25 PM EDT
[#9]
Goldens are a great medium sized dog. But they weigh 45-75 lbs generally. If weight is a major criteria, Soft Coated Wheaton Terriers are a great choice and non allergenic as well.
2/25/2008 8:42:12 PM EDT
[#10]
I am not sure I'd class a 20 lb dog as "medium" in weight. But if you want to go with something small and with short hair, I'd recommend a pug. They are so ugly they are cute. And they are playful, spirited little dogs.
2/25/2008 8:43:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Controlled pair.
2/25/2008 8:44:46 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I am not sure I'd class a 20 lb dog as "medium" in weight. But if you want to go with something small and with short hair, I'd recommend a pug. They are so ugly they are cute. And they are playful, spirited little dogs.


Be prepared to deal with nightly snoring and constant snorting.  Of course my GSD has a nightly farting problem.  None are without their shortcomings.
2/25/2008 8:45:25 PM EDT
[#13]
Basset hound?
2/25/2008 8:45:39 PM EDT
[#14]
English Setters, the hunting/sport breed. my boy is only 62 lbs and 11 years old now, still very healthy and active for an old fart.

2/25/2008 8:47:25 PM EDT
[#15]
How about a Staffordshire Terrier or a Harrier/Italian Greyhound or a Vizula?

Here's a list...

Airedale Terrier
American Eskimo
American Staffordshire Terrier
American Water Spaniel
Australian Cattle Dog
Australian Shepherd
Basenji
Basset Hound
Bearded Collie
Bedlington Terrier
Belgian Malinois
Belgian Sheepdog
Belgian Tervuren
Border Collie
Boston Terrier
Brittany
Bulldog
Bull Terrier
Clumber Spaniel
Dalmatian
English Springer Spaniel
Field Spaniel
French Bulldog
Glen of Imaal Terrier
Harrier
Irish Terrier
Keeshond
Kerry Blue Terrier
Manchester Terrier
Norwegian Elkhound
Parson Russell Terrier
Pharaoh Hound
Pembroke Welsh Corgi
Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen
Plott Hound
Poodle
Portugese Water Dog
Puli
Samoyed
Siberian Husky
Smooth Fox Terrier
Soft-Coated Wheaten Terrier
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Standard Schnauzer
Sussex Spaniel
Tibetan Terrier
Welsh Springer Spaniel
Welsh Terrier
Whippet
Wirehaired Pointing Griffon


2/25/2008 8:47:39 PM EDT
[#16]

Greyhounds  
2/25/2008 8:49:37 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am not sure I'd class a 20 lb dog as "medium" in weight. But if you want to go with something small and with short hair, I'd recommend a pug. They are so ugly they are cute. And they are playful, spirited little dogs.


Be prepared to deal with nightly snoring and constant snorting.  Of course my GSD has a nightly farting problem.  None are without their shortcomings.



I would suggest checking into a puggle. It's a Beagle/Pug cross. They seem like a really sturdy dog and when you breed them together it gets rid of some of the issues that both breeds have. The plus is that they look like mini mastiffs. I fairly sure we are going to get one this summer. If I were you I would look at rescuing one off of pet finder or you local shelter.
2/25/2008 8:54:33 PM EDT
[#18]
The Springer Spaniel is the best dog I have ever owned.
They train well, and are an intelligent breed.
I love mine to death.
2/25/2008 8:54:35 PM EDT
[#19]

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If you will get him outside often, I would go for an Australian Cattle Dog. I don't think there is any more loyal or smater of a dog.

www.dogbreedinfo.com/images16/AustralianCattleDogOzzie.JPG


I had a Australian Cattle dog / Lab mix that was the smartest damned dog I ever owned. She seemed to understand English and I mean more than just a few commands. There were times were I swear she was following conversations.
2/25/2008 9:00:28 PM EDT
[#20]
Hungarian Vizla. We've had one for three years and they are the best damn dogs in the world. Very people friendly and easy to train. We've trained ours so well he even responds to "Stupid"
2/25/2008 9:08:14 PM EDT
[#21]
anyone know anything about Staffordshire Bull Terriers?  This breed seems kind of interesting..
2/25/2008 9:09:34 PM EDT
[#22]
Cairn Terrier. Males run 14-17lbs, smart as hell. Look like Toto from The Wizard of Oz.
2/25/2008 9:18:43 PM EDT
[#23]
no on the cattle dog unless you're arround it 24 - 7 and you can take it outside for 30 minutes every 3 hours that the beast is awake
2/25/2008 10:17:33 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
anyone know anything about Staffordshire Bull Terriers?  This breed seems kind of interesting..


They are awesome little dogs.
I know a guy here in Baltimore that breeds Amstaffs.
People will mistake them for pitbulls but the AKC true Staffordshires are smaller and have great temperments.
Better dogs IMHO than the Amstaffs which are not a recognized breed.

They come in a beautiful roan color and black.


Petey was a Staffordshire.
2/25/2008 10:41:12 PM EDT
[#25]

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Something from the pound?  I firmly beleive the best dogs are those that are saved from the pound and they realize/know it.


Yes.   If one is stuck on a particular breed,  ask a vet about a rescue org. for that breed.  These people take care dogs of a particular breed until they can place them in a good home.
2/25/2008 10:42:00 PM EDT
[#26]
Boxer.
2/25/2008 10:58:21 PM EDT
[#27]
another +1 for boxers. (though ours is a boxer/lab mix)

on the other hand, I'm a big fan of shelter dogs. If you're in an apartment I'd suggest a older dog (3-4 years) that'll suit your lifestyle. Lazy people don't need hyper-dogs. It's cruel to keep them locked up at home without PROPER exercise. More active people who like to walk/jog will be better suited with a livelier dog.

2/25/2008 11:04:34 PM EDT
[#28]
Boston Terrier gets my vote.  

Heres Mayhem Joy when she was a pup.



Great dogs.  Not yappers but will bark when you need them to or want them to.  Love to play and sleep.  The only down side is mine has some of the worse gas you have ever smelled.  Amazingly her breath is as fresh as you could imagine.
2/25/2008 11:06:33 PM EDT
[#29]
Corgie.Or if you have room to run and time a Jack Russel
2/25/2008 11:09:37 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
If you will get him outside often, I would go for an Australian Cattle Dog. I don't think there is any more loyal or smater of a dog.

www.dogbreedinfo.com/images16/AustralianCattleDogOzzie.JPG


This is good advice.  They are very good dogs in smaller apartments.  Ive heard they like company while your gone so Id recommend 2 or 3 of them.  
2/26/2008 8:21:34 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
If you will get him outside often, I would go for an Australian Cattle Dog. I don't think there is any more loyal or smater of a dog.
www.dogbreedinfo.com/images16/AustralianCattleDogOzzie.JPG


If you live in an apartment and can't spend a lot of time outside letting your dog do dog stuff; don't do that to this breed of dog; you will regret getting him.
They need room to burn off energy; lots of energy.  Think Jack Russell energy in a 30+ lb. package.  Think of Jack Russell tenacity in a 30+ lb. package!  Do not keep them in an apartment unless you are with them 90% of the time.
If they get bored, they tear shit up.  Your shit, someone else's shit, expensive shit; they don't care.  Do not ever hit this breed of dog.  You'd be amazed at what and where they can get into.  They can jump straight up at least 4'.  They can and will climb to get at what they want.  I have seen them in trees trying to get at the squirrels.    
If you get this breed, spend a lot of time with them.
They usually respond to only one master, for everyone else they might as well be talking to the cat.  They are very loyal and great dogs.    
eta:  I pen mine at night to keep them from running the deer at night; letting them out in the morning.  Several of them (several different incidences) thought that they should be let out earlier than I was letting them out; they would pull at the hurricane fencing until they made a hole big enough that they could squeeze out of.  They would actually straighten out hurricane fencing with their teeth.  

If you can't be a great dog owner, this breed isn't for you.   Get a Yorkie or another minature dog.  I forgot about the boxers.  I know several people with boxers, they seem to do well.
2/26/2008 8:45:05 AM EDT
[#32]
American Foxhound.
2/26/2008 9:37:15 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If you will get him outside often, I would go for an Australian Cattle Dog. I don't think there is any more loyal or smater of a dog.
www.dogbreedinfo.com/images16/AustralianCattleDogOzzie.JPG


If you live in an apartment and can't spend a lot of time outside letting your dog do dog stuff; don't do that to this breed of dog; you will regret getting him.
They need room to burn off energy; lots of energy.  Think Jack Russell energy in a 30+ lb. package.  Think of Jack Russell tenacity in a 30+ lb. package!  Do not keep them in an apartment unless you are with them 90% of the time.
If they get bored, they tear shit up.  Your shit, someone else's shit, expensive shit; they don't care.  Do not ever hit this breed of dog.  You'd be amazed at what and where they can get into.  They can jump straight up at least 4'.  They can and will climb to get at what they want.  I have seen them in trees trying to get at the squirrels.    
If you get this breed, spend a lot of time with them.
They usually respond to only one master, for everyone else they might as well be talking to the cat.  They are very loyal and great dogs.    

If you can't be a great dog owner, this breed isn't for you.   Get a Yorkie or another minature dog.  I forgot about the boxers.  I know several people with boxers, they seem to do well.


My wife and I adopted a shelter dog that our vet believes is an Australian Cattle Dog – Catahoula mix. He is about 6 months old and 35 pounds. Very smart dog but full of energy. He has to run outside at least one hour a day and then still wants to run inside the house. We are lucky in that we have a large yard. I would not try this breed unless you can run one outside for a couple hours a day.

And yes they can climb, very well. Ask my neighbor’s cat that thought the tree would be safe spot.



2/26/2008 9:38:33 AM EDT
[#34]
Go big or go home.

BTW most of the dogs people are suggesting are large breed dogs, not medium.
2/26/2008 9:52:51 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
If you will get him outside often, I would go for an Australian Cattle Dog. I don't think there is any more loyal or smater of a dog.

www.dogbreedinfo.com/images16/AustralianCattleDogOzzie.JPG



my thoughts exactly....I grew up with Blue Hellers around and without a doubt they are great dogs
2/26/2008 9:59:35 AM EDT
[#36]
a small female Vizsla..~50#
the best breed I have ever owned!!
mine is on my lap right now!
2/26/2008 10:01:58 AM EDT
[#37]
Can I help you?



2/26/2008 10:03:16 AM EDT
[#38]
Border Collie or Australian Cattle Dog
2/26/2008 10:05:00 AM EDT
[#39]
I don't recommend a basset hound.  My boyfriend's mom has a basset hound, and it whimpers constantly.  The second she leaves the room, the whining begins.  It goes on for hours.

We had a Scottish terrier.  Fun, not too big, not an ankle biter, you don't have to give it the stupid traditional haircut.  Chases soccer balls and mice and is still content with sleeping 12 hours a day.
2/26/2008 10:07:06 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
If you will get him outside often, I would go for an Australian Cattle Dog. I don't think there is any more loyal or smater of a dog.

www.dogbreedinfo.com/images16/AustralianCattleDogOzzie.JPG


I like Australian cattle dogs also, but for an apartment I'd go with  an Old English Bulldog.. ACD's need room to run...
2/26/2008 10:12:31 AM EDT
[#41]
ACDs are great if you have the time for them. Mine goes everywhere with me.

2/26/2008 10:16:41 AM EDT
[#42]
austrailian shepared for the win!!

You will have to do some clipper work to keep the hair short though. otheer than that, perfect dogs.
2/26/2008 10:17:23 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
If you will get him outside often, I would go for an Australian Cattle Dog. I don't think there is any more loyal or smater of a dog.

www.dogbreedinfo.com/images16/AustralianCattleDogOzzie.JPG


This guy is a plus 10 also..
2/26/2008 10:19:59 AM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
Alright guys what are some good Medium sized dog breeds? Im looking for a breed that would grow to somewhere between 20-35lbs, have short hair, and be good in my small apartment. Also a very loyal breed would be nice..

so what kinda breeds are out there?


Pugs are smaller, but they will hit 20-25 pounds with ease if you're not careful... or even more.  Mine is around 20 pounds.  Perfect for apartment living.

This is him from last night as I served him dinner

2/26/2008 10:21:55 AM EDT
[#45]

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ACDs are great if you have the time for them. Mine goes everywhere with me.

i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/TEXASTACTICAL3/WEST%20TEXAS/100_1844.jpg


Good looking dog
2/26/2008 10:32:23 AM EDT
[#46]
We have a Whippet. Great dog.
2/26/2008 10:34:29 AM EDT
[#47]
My American Foxhound mutt from a lousy cell phone camera.
2/26/2008 11:42:16 AM EDT
[#48]

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We have a Whippet. Great dog.


When a problem comes along you must!!!!

(sorry I had to)
2/26/2008 11:43:58 AM EDT
[#49]
A site for gun enthusists might not be the best place to go for dog advise. Lots of good gun advise (and some not so good) can be found here, But I'm not too impressed with the dog advise. Perhaps you should try a dog site?

First thing you need to do is narrow down what you want in a dog. Size is just one of many considerations. More important is what kind of personality/temperment are you willing to deal with? How much time can you spend with it? Realisticly speaking, how active are you? (don't kid youself that you will start taking long walks or become an outdoors person once you get a dog, if you are not doing it now, you are not likely change), do you have a family? Whats thier personalities? Will they be firm and consistant with the dog, or are they more the playfull/ADD types?

There are some breeds of dogs who are wonderfull compainions or working partners, but require LOTS of training and attention or they will be nightmares to have around. . There are other breeds that are less maintainence intensive.

Find a dog to match you and your families personalities and lifestyle. Size is less important than that.
2/26/2008 11:48:56 AM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
If you will get him outside often, I would go for an Australian Cattle Dog. I don't think there is any more loyal or smater of a dog.

www.dogbreedinfo.com/images16/AustralianCattleDogOzzie.JPG

I grew up with one and I have to agree with the above assessment.  She was amazingly smart and loyal to a fault.  However, ours was outside the OPs criteria by being larger and having hair that shed a good bit.

Actually, from what I've heard a rescued grey hound might fit the bill.
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