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2/23/2008 3:15:53 PM EDT
I'm on break at work here and outside the window I'm watching a trainload of dozens upon dozens of M1 Abrams roll west.  It's sweet to watch.

Where do you think they're going?  Were they refitted/repaired?
2/23/2008 3:18:59 PM EDT
[#1]
What, no pics?
2/23/2008 3:19:02 PM EDT
[#2]

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I'm on break at work here and outside the window I'm watching a trainload of dozens upon dozens of M1 Abrams roll west.  It's sweet to watch.

Where do you think they're going?  Were they refitted/repaired?

Dunno.  Are they going toward or away from a port?

Interestingly, the biggest limitation on our MBT's size is train tunnels.
2/23/2008 3:19:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Tank train......cool ain't it? Took a nap on one at Ft Knox....last place anybody would have looked.
2/23/2008 3:19:08 PM EDT
[#4]

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I'm on break at work here and outside the window I'm watching a trainload of dozens upon dozens of M1 Abrams roll west.  It's sweet to watch.

Where do you think they're going?  Were they refitted/repaired?

I heard something about the army trying to get all their tanks up to the M1A2 version.
2/23/2008 3:19:39 PM EDT
[#5]
it's part of a group buy I put togther for us guys in Colorado.
2/23/2008 3:19:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Probably to our good, democratic, secular friends in Egypt, to whom we have wisely sold 880 Abrams tanks.
2/23/2008 3:25:02 PM EDT
[#7]

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it's part of a group buy I put togther for us guys in Colorado.


I can't wait to get mine!!!  
2/23/2008 3:26:23 PM EDT
[#8]
were probably shipped from Lima, Ohio,  but I have no idea where they're going to
2/23/2008 3:27:54 PM EDT
[#9]
NTC maybe?



-K
2/23/2008 3:28:13 PM EDT
[#10]

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it's part of a group buy I put togther for us guys in Colorado.


I can't wait to get mine!!!  


Lucky bastages!!    
2/23/2008 3:28:58 PM EDT
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2/23/2008 3:29:34 PM EDT
[#12]

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What, no pics?


Naw, I don't take my camera to work.  Who wants to see pics of the inside of a dairy cooler?  
2/23/2008 3:30:22 PM EDT
[#13]

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Probably to our good, democratic, secular friends in Egypt, to whom we have wisely sold 880 Abrams tanks.


what?
2/23/2008 3:33:55 PM EDT
[#14]

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Probably to our good, democratic, secular friends in Egypt, to whom we have wisely sold 880 Abrams tanks.


they wouldn't be heading west out of Ohio if they were for the Saudi's
2/23/2008 3:37:32 PM EDT
[#15]
Saw an interesting show on discovery/military/science channel (cant remember) that showed how they do overhauls on the abrams.  It was really cool.  They literally tear it all the way down to just a an empty hull.  Every last nut and bolt is removed before they sand blast it and put it all back together.
2/23/2008 3:38:17 PM EDT
[#16]
Probably heading to the neighboring states of Montana to crush the secession.
2/23/2008 3:38:39 PM EDT
[#17]

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Probably to our good, democratic, secular friends in Egypt, to whom we have wisely sold 880 Abrams tanks.


they wouldn't be heading west out of Ohio if they were for the Saudi's


Wouldn't be going to Saudi if they were for Egypt either.  
2/23/2008 3:41:27 PM EDT
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Probably to our good, democratic, secular friends in Egypt, to whom we have wisely sold 880 Abrams tanks.


they wouldn't be heading west out of Ohio if they were for the Saudi's


Wouldn't be going to Saudi if they were for Egypt either.  


ah well, I was thinking we sold them to the Saudi's
2/23/2008 3:43:18 PM EDT
[#19]
Rail Head movement to NTC.
2/23/2008 3:52:14 PM EDT
[#20]


Just to give you an idea of what he might've saw.

2/23/2008 3:53:48 PM EDT
[#21]

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www.olive-drab.com/gallery/photos/train_tanksloaded_2_sm.jpg

Just to give you an idea of what he might've saw.




Nice red X...
2/23/2008 3:55:41 PM EDT
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Probably heading to the neighboring states of Montana to crush the secession.


2/23/2008 3:57:11 PM EDT
[#23]

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Probably heading to the neighboring states of Montana to crush the secession.





Better get my ass up their to help.
2/23/2008 3:57:37 PM EDT
[#24]

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www.olive-drab.com/gallery/photos/train_tanksloaded_2_sm.jpg

Just to give you an idea of what he might've saw.




Nice red X...


Damn! DOn't you hate it when they do that?
2/23/2008 3:59:28 PM EDT
[#25]

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www.olive-drab.com/gallery/photos/train_tanksloaded_2_sm.jpg

Just to give you an idea of what he might've saw.




Nice red X...
Yeah,he saw nothing,figment of his imagination...spending too much time in da coolah.
2/23/2008 4:19:30 PM EDT
[#26]
I like tanks.
2/23/2008 4:26:31 PM EDT
[#27]
If I were guessing, it's probably a mech unit from the East Coast or NE being moved to Ft. Irwin, CA for training at the NTC. Narrowing that down, it would probably be an element of the 42nd ID, 28th ID or perhaps the 38th ID if they still use tanks. That's my best guess.
2/23/2008 4:27:17 PM EDT
[#28]
I heard CA.  one of ours is on there
2/23/2008 4:27:39 PM EDT
[#29]
Loose lips sink ships.  STFU.
2/23/2008 4:28:09 PM EDT
[#30]
If anyone is in the Omaha area, they'll be passing through Fremont, Nebraska.  Of course, it'll be dark by time they get there.    
2/23/2008 4:28:33 PM EDT
[#31]
There's a few older M1's being upgraded to the A2 standard.  There was a thread in GD just today about it.  
2/23/2008 10:05:19 PM EDT
[#32]
A lot of Guard units are upgrading from M1A1s to M1A1 AIMs. I believe WA has already upgraded, CA certainly did a few months ago. Could be an MT or ID based unit, assuming you're in IA.

They won't be heading for Egypt, the Egyptians have their own production line.

NTM
2/23/2008 10:11:32 PM EDT
[#33]
Ft. Sill, home of the BIG GUNS!!!!!!!!
2/23/2008 10:19:31 PM EDT
[#34]

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Loose lips sink ships.  STFU.


+1
2/23/2008 11:37:13 PM EDT
[#35]

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Loose lips sink ships.  STFU.


NO U

Seriously, if they're rolling multiple abrams through on a train by civilian places, they aren't too worried about word of it getting out.

2/24/2008 12:33:34 AM EDT
[#36]

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Probably to our good, democratic, secular friends in Egypt, to whom we have wisely sold 880 Abrams tanks.


they wouldn't be heading west out of Ohio if they were for the Saudi's


Possibly, shipping out of Pt. Hueneme?  Depends on where the ships are.  But between you me and the fencepost NTC, Ft. Hood, Pendleton  are more likely destinations.
2/24/2008 12:51:55 AM EDT
[#37]

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Loose lips sink ships.  STFU.


NO U

Seriously, if they're rolling multiple abrams through on a train by civilian places, they aren't too worried about word of it getting out.



2/24/2008 1:55:01 AM EDT
[#38]
Where does the .mil train tank crews?
2/24/2008 2:00:27 AM EDT
[#39]

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Where does the .mil train tank crews?


Ft Knox, traditionally (Army)...

Don't know about the Marines...

They are moving to Ft Benning now, so that they can have Infantry & Armor both train in the same place...
2/24/2008 2:02:02 AM EDT
[#40]

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it's part of a group buy I put togther for us guys in Colorado.



Yea, by the way.....where is mine? My Motor Pool is done, just waiting on the tank.  I can't wait to have Thursday afternoon Motor Stables again!
2/24/2008 2:13:51 AM EDT
[#41]

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Where does the .mil train tank crews?


Ft Knox, traditionally (Army)...

Don't know about the Marines...

They are moving to Ft Benning now, so that they can have Infantry & Armor both train in the same place...


Thanks
2/24/2008 2:19:34 AM EDT
[#42]

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If I were guessing, it's probably a mech unit from the East Coast or NE being moved to Ft. Irwin, CA for training at the NTC. Narrowing that down, it would probably be an element of the 42nd ID, 28th ID or perhaps the 38th ID if they still use tanks. That's my best guess.


ding ding ding!

more than likely we have a winner.

anybody in a mechanized unit knows all about railhead details loading everything to be shipped to Ft irwin, CA for NTC rotations.  ours went on the flatbeds at Benning, and returned to the same spot, allowing for thousands of conspiracy theories to evolve during both directions of their cross country voyage.

it happens every month, to a different unit. the same with JRTC in louisiana.



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Loose lips sink ships.  STFU.


NO U

Seriously, if they're rolling multiple abrams through on a train by civilian places, they aren't too worried about word of it getting out.



yeah, im thinking if it was top secret G6 stuff then they would at least have tarps on them.  watch the discovery channel special on NTC, they filmed it while my unit was there. it shows it in detail.
2/24/2008 2:35:58 AM EDT
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2/24/2008 3:56:45 AM EDT
[#44]

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Where does the .mil train tank crews?


Ft Knox, traditionally (Army)...

Don't know about the Marines...

They are moving to Ft Benning now, so that they can have Infantry & Armor both train in the same place...


Marines go to the Army tank school.

After that, they train wherever their unit is.  1st Tanks 29 Palms CA, 2nd Tanks Camp Lejeune.

Edit: As for the destination of those tanks, I vote NTC out by Barstow.
2/24/2008 4:10:37 AM EDT
[#45]
i see them my the train load at least once a month here. were about 30 miles from the lina train plant here in ohio. both when there hull waiting for refit and there there made to look better than new.
2/24/2008 4:12:17 AM EDT
[#46]

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Where does the .mil train tank crews?


Ft Knox, traditionally (Army)...

Don't know about the Marines...

They are moving to Ft Benning now, so that they can have Infantry & Armor both train in the same place...


The Marines go through tank training at Ft Knox also.

My son completed Army Cav Scout OSUT at Ft Knox a few months ago.  India Troop, 5-15 Cav was next door to the Marine tanker barracks.

He said the Marine tankers were "undisciplined fatasses" compared to the Cav Scouts but the boy was always prone to hyperbole so I don't know.
2/24/2008 4:18:26 AM EDT
[#47]
We sold Abrams to the Egyptians?  WTF  I'm no pentagon strategist, but I predict that was a BIG MISTAKE.
2/24/2008 4:23:21 AM EDT
[#48]
Yup, I was a Marine Corps tanker, trained at Knox.  Nothing like being a Marine stationed at an Army base

Anyone catch that GI Factory show?  They showed old Abrams being rebuilt into new ones, very cool.

I believe the export M1s are not identical to the versions we use.  No DU armor, something like that.  

I did see an interesting variant at Knox back in 1992, it had rectangular slabs of extra armor attached to the outside of the turret.  The guys in the building said it was for export, but you never know.
2/24/2008 4:27:37 AM EDT
[#49]

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Loose lips sink ships.  STFU.

It's not like dozens of large tanks being transported on a public rail service in broad daylight is a national secret.
2/24/2008 5:32:00 AM EDT
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img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Metroliner/TheWalls1.jpg


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