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1/9/2008 11:48:50 AM EDT

VICTORY!
President Signs Bill to Strengthen Brady Background Check System

Dear Doug,

NICS Victory Thanks to YouThe first major piece of national legislation to reduce gun violence in more than a decade was signed into law yesterday. Thank you for making this success possible.

Momentum is on our side because of you.
Please give a generous gift today to mark this
terrific progress and keep it going in 2008!

After the Virginia Tech tragedy, with your help and support, we asked our leaders, "What are YOU going to do about gun violence?"  They responded.  This new law helps make it more difficult for dangerous people to get their hands on deadly weapons.

The Virginia Tech killer was able to arm himself because the court order that should have blocked his gun purchase was not forwarded from the state to the federal Brady background check system.  This law will help ensure that records like these don't fall through the cracks resulting in yet another tragedy of lost lives.

Much more work lies ahead for your Brady Campaign. We will closely monitor the implementation of the legislation to make sure that it is as effective as it can be. And we continue our efforts to pass universal Brady background checks on all gun sales, including closing the gun show loophole.

We deeply appreciate the courage and strength of the Virginia Tech families who lost loved ones on April 16th or who were injured. Many of them signed a powerful letter to Congress and joined us on Capitol Hill on the sixth-month anniversary of those shootings calling for the passage of this legislation.  The efforts of all the families involved were critical to this victory.

Our special thanks go out to Representative Carolyn McCarthy and Senators Charles Schumer and Edward Kennedy for their leadership on this legislation.

Thank you again for your support and commitment to making America safe. Happy New Year! We’ve gotten off to a great start.
Sincerely,
Sarah's Signature
Sarah Brady, Chair


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1/9/2008 11:49:57 AM EDT
[#1]
1/9/2008 11:51:25 AM EDT
[#2]


<snip>
New Year! We’ve gotten off to a great start.
Sincerely,
Sarah's Signature
Sarah Brady, Chair


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Scary sh*t right there...
1/9/2008 11:53:35 AM EDT
[#3]
Get's better



Senate Passes NICS Improvement Act,
House Concurs  
After months of careful negotiation, pro-gun legislation was passed through Congress on Wed., December 19. The National Rifle Association (NRA) worked closely with Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) to address his concerns regarding H.R. 2640, the National Instant Check System (NICS) Improvement Act. These changes make a good bill even better. The end product is a win for American gun owners.
Link

Makes me glad we're all on the same side now.
1/9/2008 11:54:55 AM EDT
[#4]

Our special thanks go out to Representative Carolyn McCarthy and Senators Charles Schumer and Edward Kennedy for their leadership on this legislation.


They forgot to thank someone else for this, but I'm Not Really Aware of who that is at this time.

1/9/2008 12:06:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Lovely, just lovely....

DK, you ruined my day....
1/9/2008 12:15:59 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Our special thanks go out to Representative Carolyn McCarthy and Senators Charles Schumer and Edward Kennedy for their leadership on this legislation.


They forgot to thank someone else for this, but I'm Not Really Aware of who that is at this time.



NRA
1/9/2008 12:17:44 PM EDT
[#7]
How is it that the Brady's opposed this bill all the way through because it was too pro gun by allowing appeals to get gun rights restored, but now claim victory?
1/9/2008 12:18:29 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Our special thanks go out to Representative Carolyn McCarthy and Senators Charles Schumer and Edward Kennedy for their leadership on this legislation.


They forgot to thank someone else for this, but I'm Not Really Aware of who that is at this time.



NRA


Oh yeah?
1/9/2008 12:27:18 PM EDT
[#9]
I hope the NRA bashers will at least take note of this part...


first major piece of national legislation to reduce gun violence in more than a decade was signed into law yesterday
.


If it's such a  major "victory", why are the antis sobbing about the bill?


WASHINGTON, Dec. 19 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Leading national gun violence prevention organizations today warned that a bill intended to improve the records available to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) -- the national system used to screen gun buyers -- has been hijacked by the gun lobby and would now do far more harm than good.


The "NICS Improvement Act" passed today by the Senate would:


-- Resuscitate a failed government program that spent millions of dollars annually to allow persons prohibited from buying guns to regain the ability to legally acquire firearms. The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) would be required to establish a "relief from disability" program to allow persons now prohibited from possessing a firearm because they have "been adjudicated as a mental defective" or "committed to a mental institution" to apply to have their bar on firearms possession removed. As a result of the bill, more than 116,000 individuals would be eligible to apply. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) used to run a similar program that, in addition to those with mental disabilities, even allowed felons to apply for "relief." Annual costs for the ATF program ballooned to more than $4 million in 1991, with an average cost of $4,800 per applicant and 43 full-time employees dedicated to processing the applications. Congress shut down the ATF program in 1992 because of its high cost, inefficiency, and threat to public safety. Under the bill, states would also be required to establish such "relief" programs to restore the gun privileges of those with mental health disabilities in order to be eligible for potential grant money to upgrade records submitted to the NICS.


-- Set an arbitrary time limit for the VA to act on applications for "relief." If the agency fails to act within 365 days, applicants could file a lawsuit asking a court to restore their gun privileges, even if Congress fails to provide the VA with the appropriate resources to process these investigations. Some prevailing applicants would be entitled to attorneys' fees. This provision is contrary to a unanimous 2002 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that ATF's failure to act on a relief application from a felon (because of lack of appropriations) did not constitute a denial that would entitle the applicant to judicial review. The decision noted that courts are ill-equipped to make decisions on individual applications for "relief" under the standards that would apply under the "NICS Improvement Act," stating: "Whether an applicant is `likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety' presupposes an inquiry into that applicant's background -- a function best performed by the Executive, which, unlike courts, is institutionally equipped for conducting a neutral, wide-ranging investigation. Similarly, the `public interest' standard calls for an inherently policy-based decision best left in the hands of an agency."


-- Significantly narrow the category of records of people with mental disabilities that would be submitted to the NICS by the federal government. The current permanent bar on persons with certain health disabilities would be replaced with temporary restrictions.


Kristen Rand, legislative director of the Violence Policy Center, states, "This bill was intended to be Congress' response to the mass shooting at Virginia Tech that left 32 people murdered. But rather than focusing on improving the current laws prohibiting people with certain mental health disabilities from buying guns, the bill is now nothing more than a gun lobby wish list. It will waste millions of taxpayer dollars restoring the gun privileges of persons previously determined to present a danger to themselves or others. Once a solution, the bill is now part of the problem."


Josh Horwitz, executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, adds, "It is ironic that the gun lobby has coerced the Senate into providing resources to rearm mentally disabled veterans during a time when the VA is struggling to provide adequate mental health care to those in need."


Robyn Thomas, executive director of the Legal Community Against Violence, comments, "The bill's original intent, to increase reporting of state records to the NICS database, is an important objective that would improve enforcement of federal laws governing persons prohibited from possessing firearms. The changes made by the gun lobby risk undermining those laws, and we call on the House to have a full debate on the merits of this legislation."

Violence Policy Center
1/9/2008 1:47:14 PM EDT
[#10]
Bump for the people without search
1/9/2008 1:49:32 PM EDT
[#11]
1/9/2008 2:04:02 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Our special thanks go out to Representative Carolyn McCarthy and Senators Charles Schumer and Edward Kennedy for their leadership on this legislation.


They forgot to thank someone else for this, but I'm Not Really Aware of who that is at this time.



NRA


Oh yeah?


lol.

1/9/2008 2:07:14 PM EDT
[#13]
your on that email list too  
1/9/2008 2:14:36 PM EDT
[#14]
This just goes to show ya......When both sides claim victory...We, as gun owners are right and truely FUCKED!!!!
1/9/2008 2:27:06 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
This just goes to show ya......When both sides claim victory...We, as gun owners are right and truely FUCKED!!!!


Uh, how were we fucked by this?

Just 'cause the Brady Bunch wants to call it a victory doesn't make it so. And, after loosing so long you have to expect that their doners are ready to fund something else. Sounds of desperation.

1/9/2008 2:30:00 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Our special thanks go out to Representative Carolyn McCarthy and Senators Charles Schumer and Edward Kennedy for their leadership on this legislation.


They forgot to thank someone else for this, but I'm Not Really Aware of who that is at this time.



NRA


Oh yeah?


Fucking sellouts!

1/9/2008 2:31:13 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
This just goes to show ya......When both sides claim victory...We, as gun owners are right and truely FUCKED!!!!


Uh, how were we fucked by this?

Just 'cause the Brady Bunch wants to call it a victory doesn't make it so. And, after loosing so long you have to expect that their doners are ready to fund something else. Sounds of desperation.



If you don't understand that increasing the scope of an unconstitutional limitation on gun ownership is a loss for gun owners then there is nothing that anyone can do to explain it to you.

1/9/2008 2:34:27 PM EDT
[#18]
Any bill with guns as the subject matter sponsored and/or supported by McCarthy, Schumer and Kennedy CANNOT be good for gun owners.  I don't care how the NRA tries to spin it.  I would trust those characters with my gun rights about as far as I can throw a cheesecake under water.