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Posted: 3/3/2001 6:57:40 PM EDT

[#1]

I'm a brotha (euphenism for black male) and I used to attend gun shows in Houston regularly. I don't go much any more because I have pretty much everything that I need.

I terms of the lack of presence of black folks at gun shows, there are probably a few reason some of which have been discussed here.

The rebel & nazi flags don't bother me, but they do some. For some who fly those flags its just a symbol of their heritage and for others its a political statement. I'm third generation military. I spent 6 six years in the army, my dad spent 25+ years in the army fighting in Korea and 2 tours in Vietnam (3 purple hearts 5 bronze stars and a silver star) and may grandfather was on active duty and in europe during WWII. They put their lives on the line and I was willing to put mine on the line so that all Americans could have the freedoms our constitution talks about.

I said all of that to say I'm not going to tread on anyone's right and I'd definitely not going to let anyone tread on mine [;D]. So folks can fly whatever they want if I want to go I will and there are many "brotha's" that feel the way do.

Some black folk think the gun shows are full of racist extremist types. They are some of those types there but so what, they're everywhere. They have bought into the crap that the media has been promoting. In the past I have taken so "brotha's and sista's" along so that they can be exposed to a healthy gun culture and community.

Sometimes they ask me "why do you have all of those guns." My reply generally is "I like to hunt and shoot and then you never know what's gong to happen in the world. I'd rather have them andnot need them, than need them and not have them." After about a ten minute conversation about half of them ending purchaing a weapon.

Big Mike

Posted: 3/3/2001 7:08:42 PM EDT

[#2]

Dear Fellow members
I've also noticed a small number of minorities at the local gunshows in the Wash D.C. area. The problem I see is that many of the vendors treat black as criminals looking to buy guns instead of potential customers that like the sport of shooting. The idiot that stated minorities just like anything semi auto and mean looking should be shot for being so stupid.
I want to tell the white members that prejudice stupid people will cost you more than just attendance numbers at gun shows. The idiot that gets a little nervous when blacks are at the gunshows is the same person that shot side by side with a white person who's very unsafe at the range but he's white so he must be right. The white sportsman that are prejudice won't be happy until it won't be legal for minorities or whites to own firearms. Keep you prejudice out of our sport, don't bring your screwed up values to our sport

Posted: 3/3/2001 7:09:47 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
I have even heard vets say they actually
respected the way the Nazis fought.

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I actually CAN see what you are saying here, they fought hard and didn't give up, I still don't believe it was out of bravery though, load up any young kid on meth give him a rifle and tell him to kill or you will kill him and he will do it, I would bet that the majority of them didn't agree with what they were doing they went along because they had to, either follow orders and help the genocide along or be sent to the showers yourself, it's a question of violating your own morals for saving your own ass, I'm not saying I'm any better and hope I will never be tested like that I'd be scared of the ramifications of either choice. Only reason for any disrespect for you in my post was the fact that we DO have a lot of US veterans on here and probably any number of folks old enough to have lost a loved one or friend to the nazis, or young enough to never have known any of those lost, who would have viewed your post as pro-nazi as I may have incorrectly done myself.

Posted: 3/3/2001 7:13:01 PM EDT

[#4]

[beer]

WE MUST ALL GET ALONG...

White Black Whatever!

RKBA...

(cowboy action shooting anybody???)

Posted: 3/3/2001 7:18:05 PM EDT

[#5]

I am one of the minorities that go to gunshows. I see a lot (black, asian, ...) at the San Francisco gunshows. Everyone is treated with respect, I think. I saw these black guys looking at a MAC 10 without the threads (to comply with SB23). Does that make them gangsters? I don't think so. I guess it does depend on where you go to see more minorities. I guess you CAN call me a biggott. A lot of times, you are right when you see a person representing theirselves in a certain way. Sh!t... if I seen a guy with a cashmere sweater tied around his neck, Docker khakis, penny loafers, and a polo shirt, you know what type of person he is! Looks can be deceiving though...

Posted: 3/3/2001 7:22:45 PM EDT

[#6]

Bratty: I was at the Pheonix show and I observed the Hispanic gentelman with you and Derick. I was tempted to respond to Der's post last week RE. Racism, and mention this, but I didn't want to confuse the issue more than it already was. Being human, many of us generalize about groups different from us. I admit to this (although I never would in my professional capacity). But, in all honesty, I do evaluate individuals objectively. Of the 5 most trusted men friends in my life, 3 are white, 1 is Japanese-American and the other is a Black from Nigeria (all but one of the white guys are shooters). My family estate attorney is black, and the Director of my Department(who has my total loyalty) is a Chicano. By the same token, at this time I have 2 black female subordinates that are being disciplined for substandard performance.(yes I am being accused as being racially and gender discriminating). I won't be a hypocrite and say I don't notice the color of someone when I first meet them...It's obvious, but when I work with somebody or see a friend or aquaintance, I really don't notice his race or ethnicity. Why don't we see more blacks at gun shows? Probably for the same reason we don't see many unattached women at gun shows. They probably just don't feel welcome or comfortable. This is unfortunate, as a good mixture of active gun rights supporters would give us all some much needed credibility. Keep up the "Shoot the illegals crossing the border" and "Niggers aren't like us"rhetoric, and watch the neutral American become an Anti, amd with it watch your gun rights slip away..

Posted: 3/3/2001 7:36:42 PM EDT

[#7]

Originally Posted By Open Fire:
Gunrunner and Opesus both are correct in their responses. Gunowners need more friends, not enemies. Anyway, what color is Rosie???

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PINK, like a fat pig,, oh, damn I must be a bigot

Posted: 3/3/2001 7:42:59 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
if I seen a guy with a cashmere sweater tied around his neck, Docker khakis, penny loafers, and a polo shirt, you know what type of person he is! Looks can be deceiving though...

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thilly, he'th juth a tennith player!

[sex] [rocket]

Posted: 3/3/2001 7:48:57 PM EDT

[#9]

My $.02,

The bottom line is that it is not a comfortable place to be for a lot of folks; minorities, women and children. For example, when I go to the SAXET shows in Austin, there is usually a table for the "John Birch Society"(like they have any relevance). Also, there are always the idiots with the "kill them all..." shirts, etc.

Sure, everyone is welcome, but tell that to the prick who yells at curious kids who want to touch the items on his table. That should fuel kid's interest in firearms.

As far as women are concerned, try standing next to a vendor talking to a female who is looking at a weapon. You will hear more BS than the vendor would ever dare telling you. (Of course, he is an expert!)

I go to the smaller shows for supplies and it is my experience that I can count on a small handfull of vendors to be there, be polite, sell at reasonable prices and know what they are talking about. The rest take up space and help pay for the rent on the building, I guess.

Posted: 3/3/2001 8:01:32 PM EDT

[#10]

At the local shows I always see these 2 old guys together (probably vets), one white and one black. Unlike some people here, they don't seem to have any problems with each other not being the same color.

Posted: 3/3/2001 9:24:24 PM EDT

[#11]

I don't go to gun shows because:
1. I am usually working when they are going
on.
2. I get better deals from my local FFL
dealer.

Number two is my main reason.[:D]

Posted: 3/3/2001 9:26:09 PM EDT

[#12]

erickm: I sure don't mean any disrespect for
our veterans. Thanks for your reply. I just
wanna git along and shoot my AR-15 :)

Posted: 3/3/2001 10:00:21 PM EDT

[#13]

Mostly I see the thug types come in. Then there are the ones that pick out the gun they want right there in front of you and then have their "Baby's Mama" tell the dealer that she needs the tech 9 for home defense. Knowing good and well that the "Baby's Daddy is going to get the tech 9. The dealers can't turn them down even though he knows that the guy will get the gun due to the ole "You turnin me down cause I'm black!" mumbo jumbo.

Posted: 3/3/2001 10:02:21 PM EDT

[#14]

Here we go again, Sighhhh...

Whenever the Question of Race is whispered here a certain number of Brain Washed Knuckleheads start yelling:"...Racist....Racist here And Racist there and if you don't agree with me and if someone says this or that why, the're a Bigot...Uhh...Bigot....Yeah..." Poor Brain Washed little Nimrods....

Especially the younger guys who post here--I deduce they are late teens and early twenties and what little Brain they possess has been thoroughly scrubbed in Public School and re-scrubbed by too many hours of watching the Leftist programming on Cable TV.

God, I hope Bush pushes for Tuition Vouchers--It would get many young Kids out of the Socialist Public School System and these Stupid young Turks would escape the Leftist Public School Brain Washing Indoctrination Program.

Why, they might even learn to think all by themselves instead of resorting to the sloganeering they practice here: "Racist...and uhh, you're a Bigot..Duuhh, Yeah..."

In Summary--There are no Racists here. "Racism" is a Ploy of the Leftist Media and Socialist Politicians to turn Black against White, you know: A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand.

It is they who constantly push this Racism Crap. If Folks, irregardless of Color, are left all to themselves, I think we all know that we manage to get along with each other pretty well.

Before some folks here shoot off their Big Brain Washed Mouths they should seriously think first about why they allowed themselves to become Brain Washed Zombies and why they Mindlessly push the Race Division Tactics of the Socialists. And they must cease promoting a Division among all Americans irregardless of Skin Color. It's what the Leftists do.

Posted: 3/3/2001 10:30:51 PM EDT

[#15]

I always bring both my kids to gun shows. As far as blacks, I don’t know. I have only seen one or two since we moved to AZ 6/2000.

Perhaps we could import them from out of state or we could invite my black friends we left behind in Ca to come visit every time there’s a big gun show in Phoenix.

THISISME

Posted: 3/3/2001 10:36:05 PM EDT

[#16]

[-!-!-]

Posted: 3/3/2001 10:42:40 PM EDT

[#17]

"..Whenever the Question of Race is whispered here a certain number of Brain Washed Knuckleheads start yelling:"...Racist....Racist here And Racist there and if you don't agree with me and if someone says this or that why, the're a Bigot...Uhh...Bigot....Yeah..." Poor Brain Washed little Nimrods...."

Posted: 3/3/2001 11:47:20 PM EDT

[#18]

no hats, no baggy pants, no coats in the summer, and no gold chains, and ABSOLUTELY no pointing guns sideways (in other words...act like us law abiding people) and I would be glad to meet you there.

PS> its scary, but when I worked at the fairgrounds years ago..... we removed more whites for doing the above than blacks, I guess the ones that have the balls to go, also have the balls to break the stereotypes.

Posted: 3/4/2001 12:54:20 AM EDT

[#19]

SS109, I certainly never meant my comments to be taken in a bad way.

I have worked for a FFL for 11 years now and was merely stating some general observations.

I think it is a matter of 'pride of ownership' thing. I prefer quality of workmanship and engineering over the style of finish. In fact the "pimp gun" I had in mind was a Colt 1911 at another dealer in town that is bright chrome, bright blue and some sort of white grips. It is a Colt special run although I don't recall the name of it. They like the flash, I like the standard blue or matte.

From what "I" have observed, most Hispanics prefer the showy finishes. And that is fine by me. Like you said personal preferences.

Unless things have changed in Mexico lately, I doubt it, military ammo is forbidden on the commercial market. So when they come up here they buy what they can get down there. That is .38 Auto and .380 Auto. And with their accent it comes out 'booleets'. I get a kick out that.

Hispanics like the meanest looking hardware, I would guess, because it looks more machismo. That is important in their culture. Face it, a Tec-9 looks tougher, more macho than, say, a Ruger P89.

I never meant to flame anyone or group in a mean spirited way.

Posted: 3/4/2001 1:16:52 AM EDT

[#20]

I'm a whiteboy and I only go to Gun Shows for the drama but I use to have a TOTALLY HOT black girlfriend. (does that count?)

Posted: 3/4/2001 5:32:39 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
[If you NOTICE...then...Guess what you are????

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An observant person? I really don't see how this would make be a biggot.

I always notice if somebody has blond, brown, red, or whatever color hair. Does this say that I hate people with a certain hair color? No, it just means that I notice.

So anybody who labels a person of another race is a biggot? If I say my friend is Korean with no disrespect in my voice, am I a biggot? I think not...

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Good answer! I was trying to think of a way to say the same thing, but I just couldn't do it...

And my Post that you took acception to was intended as sarcasm aimed at the hard-liners who are comfortable with all of their labels.

Posted: 3/4/2001 6:48:19 AM EDT

[#22]

Hmmm..I went to a local indoor pistol range a week or two ago and there were more blacks there than whites. So WTF? Black guy shooting a cool Sig on one side of me and his buddy shooting a nice HK. After they finished, they asked me if I was a reloader(they were not) and I said "yes, I do reload", at which time they proceeded to give me about 400 rds of 9mm and 40SW brass they had just picked up. Nice fellas! I do not care what color a man is, or what religion he holds..as long as he is honest. Any citizen of this country has the right and duty to be able to own and shoot any gun he wants..period.

I suspect all the neo-Nazi and Confederate cr@p keeps some minorities away from gun shows, but who knows? The "US Marine recon-wannabee-stuff" drives me batty, but I still go to the shows.

Posted: 3/4/2001 7:12:24 AM EDT

[#23]

Not a lot of Black or Asian people at the gunshows here in Anchorage, and women are always accompanied by their fellas. I never pay much attention to the number of minorities because representation/quotas and so on doesn't really interest me. I DO get a pleasant kick out of seeing people at gun shows I wouldn't expect, like local artists, hippies, gays, or acquaintances of mine I didn't know were into guns.

Posted: 3/4/2001 7:19:52 AM EDT

[#24]

MrBoffo, what color is the sky on your planet? There is no racism???
WTF are you talking about? I guess the KKK doesn't exist, or the Nation of Islam, huh?
Sure, the media plays it up more than it is worth, but I KNOW it exists...I have met the people personally.
BTW, I went to private, conservative Christian schools MY WHOLE LIFE, including college, so there goes your little theory.

Anyway, back to the topic...I do see a pretty good minority representation at shows here. And contrary to what one idiot posted, the Hispanics here do NOT go after "pimp guns." In fact, the Mexicans here want, more than anything, old Colt 1911s. I once saw a Mexican guy in his 40s who was dressed like a farmworker pay $800 for a pre-war commericial Colt govt model.
There are a few of the "gangbanger" types among the blacks that attend, but the majority seem to be average joes who want to buy a gun for home defense.

Posted: 3/4/2001 7:40:03 AM EDT

[#25]

Well here is how I feel about it. I don't care what color you are. I HATE HOODLUMS AND THUGS AND WANNA BEES. These kind come in all colors. White, Black, Hispanic, Asian and so on. I also feel that guns dont kill people. People kill people. The more minorities in our ranks would show that it is not a race that has a propensity for crime or violence but an economic class. My business partner is Black. I personally think that Hispanic women are very sexy and hot. So yes, I welcome any honest law abiding citizen in our ranks.

Jay

Posted: 3/4/2001 7:44:34 AM EDT

[#26]

Question: Who knows what the word "Nazi" stands for? It means Nazinaonalista, or nationalist, patriot, in other words. Mr. Jewbait is correct. Most of these men were soldiers, obeying orders, just like i did when i was in. Study German history, the atrosities that took place were the fault of a select few, not the soldiers. Ask yourself, if your country was fighting for world domination would you feel differently about it?

Posted: 3/4/2001 7:57:46 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Question: Who knows what the word "Nazi" stands for? It means Nazinaonalista, or nationalist, patriot, in other words. Mr. Jewbait is correct. Most of these men were soldiers, obeying orders, just like i did when i was in. Study German history, the atrosities that took place were the fault of a select few, not the soldiers. Ask yourself, if your country was fighting for world domination would you feel differently about it?

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No, Nazi was short for the German words for national SOCIALIST. They, like the Commies, were socialists, they only differed on means to achieve that end. And no, "just obeying orders" is NOT a defense against immoral actions.

Posted: 3/4/2001 8:07:13 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
erickm:
You rank a hardened German SS soldier below
a pediphile? . . . I have even heard vets say they actually
respected the way the Nazis fought.

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That's a wide brush your using. There were various tiers of SS. You've probably "heard" very selective anectdotal rhetoric about who "respected" the SS. Even some original SS groups were ashamed of the "elite" SS that came after them towards the middle and end of the war (such as Piper's butcher's who raped and slaughtered innocents in Russia). What about the a$$holes who systematically butchered undesirables in Poland? Yea, good bunch of guys. Pretty uniforms, kewl weapons and well-disciplined killing alone does not impress me and I doubt it impressed our vets. I'm sure they looked beyond the form and into the substance. In the end, the whole lot (even by association) was nothing but a bunch of elitist dickheads who almost got away with meaningless murder based on an ignorant plan of dim-witted forced natural selection. Yes, there were good soldies in the Vermarch who had nothing to do with the politics of Hitler and who fought honorably, however, even their service is tainted.

PS: This is way off topic, sorry. For what it's worth, I agree we should seek more inclusiveness and I don't think blacks at shows are "scary" or only gravitate to the Tec9 table. You see all kinds of "scary" ppl at shows, mostly white.

Posted: 3/4/2001 8:45:54 AM EDT

[#29]

What's this problem so many of you seem to have about going to gun shows? 'The dealers are horrible greedy uninformed pigs', 'the crowds are ignorant jerks', 'the prices are too high, the choices are too limited', etc...ad nauseum.

If the experience was so devestating, why did you go a second time? I never went to any gun show, EVER, that I didn't get SOMETHING out of the experience. Maybe it was just a good talk with some veteran, some kid just learning about guns, someone trying to figure out what sort of weapon they should buy for themselves, but, all in all, a very positive experience.

What did you go there for, anyway?

Posted: 3/4/2001 8:47:55 AM EDT

[#30]

I always thought if the first thing you noticed about a person was his/her race than your a biggot, period.

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The first thing I notice about anybody I see is "are they a woman" which is quickly and automatically followed by "are they attractive".

Which makes me a ...?

Posted: 3/4/2001 8:58:23 AM EDT

[#31]

Hoplophile: I'm afraid that you, like myself, would have to be considered a GYNOPHILE.
BTW, what is a Hoplophile?

Posted: 3/4/2001 8:59:32 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
Question: Who knows what the word "Nazi" stands for? It means Nazinaonalista, or nationalist, patriot, in other words.

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Nazinaonalista?????? What a HOOT!

Sounds like to me that you have Spanish mixed up with German...Or vice versa.

Posted: 3/4/2001 9:04:09 AM EDT

[#33]

Originally Posted By Mole Eye:
Hoplophile: I'm afraid that you, like myself, would have to be considered a GYNOPHILE.
BTW, what is a Hoplophile?

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Hoplos = weapons/fighting

i.e ancient Greek soldiers were Hoplites.

Posted: 3/4/2001 9:05:24 AM EDT

[#34]

Rik, no, it is not, but anyone who has done military service knows, that when soldiers do not follow orders, the system breaks down, and nations fall. That's why we have elections, every one cannot make all the decisions. That's why there is a rank structure. Of course, as with anything, there is a limit to how far one should go, and that is determined by our individual morality. War is war, and war is hell.

Posted: 3/4/2001 10:18:30 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
what color is the sky on your planet? There is no racism???
WTF are you talking about? I guess the KKK doesn't exist, or the Nation of Islam, huh?

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His attitude towards that would work if everyone just quit it all, Ignore it pretend it's not there and it will go away, never happen though too many egos.

Posted: 3/4/2001 10:39:56 AM EDT

[#36]

Note---
NAZI
National Socialist German Workers' Party
Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (Apr 1920)

Posted: 3/4/2001 10:42:01 AM EDT

[#37]

Gentlemen,

I, too, have noticed a lack of "correct ethnic representation" at my local gun shows in the few states I have had the grace to live in in the past several years. I do believe the nazi/white supremacist paraphrenalia is a contributing factor, as is the demographics (the locations of gun shows being out in redneck-ville vs. downtown suburbia), but what I attest the poor representation of fair amounts of other ethnic groups to is MARKETING.

WHERE are gun shows advertised? Actually, a better question is where are they NOT advertised, for whatever reason?

For the hardcore enthusiast, such as most of us, it is a matter of finding out about them. Most NDP (Non-dedicated personnel) have neither the time nor the resources to find out about them in time to get to them.

Bigotry (pay attention, this is how it is spelled) can be found anywhere, against any race, creed, color, or religion (etc. etc. ad nauseam). Stepping AWAY from that "subtopic" and moving back toward the answer to the question of the original thread, perhaps those of us who frequent these shows can point the sponsors toward vast untapped markets of potential customers who are otherwise ignorant of the show's existence.

I know the last few shows I've missed have been because I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Panz

Posted: 3/4/2001 12:25:07 PM EDT

[#38]

Why, are there blacks at the gun shows!!!??

The next thing you know they will be playing golf and tennis at the country club!

Chris Rock said he knows that world is coming to an end when a black man is the best in golf and a white rapper is on top of the hip hop charts.

What are yooooooou doing? [@:D]

Posted: 3/4/2001 12:49:02 PM EDT

[#39]

Wow Sundog, Who stuck that monkey up your butt? [@:D]

Posted: 3/4/2001 1:25:19 PM EDT

[#40]

MoleEye/Hopolphile

Hoplite: a heavily armed infantry soldier
of ancient Greece.

Posted: 3/4/2001 1:49:03 PM EDT

[#41]

PanzerBoy:
In Florida the gunshows are advertised in the
major newspapers under sporting goods in the
classified section.
When you pay at the door of the show you are
given a coupon for one dollar off admission at
the next show and on the reverse side a schedule
of coming shows for the next 2 or 3 months.
You will find billboards along the major highways as well.
The gun show people do a very good job of advertising in Florida.
Shotgun News and the GunList have gun show
listings for the entire US.

Posted: 3/4/2001 2:15:38 PM EDT

[#42]

Just a suggestion to everyone. When making an argument you should never curse or use any words that show emotion because you lose all common ground with your argument.

Note: This is a very common mistake with liberals.

Posted: 3/4/2001 2:40:32 PM EDT

[#43]

Sundog,
As a Southern Man I take umbridge with your
comments.
Here are some points for you to ponder instead
of pondering your pud.
Many Southerners are direct decendents of the
Men and Women that fought for the South. My
paternal and maternal great-grandfathers were
Chaplins in the Confederate Army.
Yes there were Free and Slave States and there
was controversy over "black slavery" but like
most hypocrites you Northern slave holders did
not want to recognise that "indentured servants"
are slaves as well and they were not freed until the early 1920's. Where and why do you
think the Union movement started. The history
of the Industrial Revolution is also a history
of Yankee style slavory. Coalmining towns and
factory towns were the Northern equivilents
of the Southern Plantations!
Let us remember that the Indians and Free Blacks
were slavers long before the Southern White
man ever arrived on this continent. Let us
remember that the blacks brought here from
Africa were first captured and sold by outher
Blacks and Arabs.
Let us remember that steel made in Birmingham,
Alabama and shipped by "Yankee Railroads" to
Atlanta, Georgia cost twice what steel made
in Pittsburg, Pennsylvania and shipped by"Yankee Railroads" to Atlanta, Georgia did
before the war. Yankee imposed tariffs on
cotton, lumber and outher southern exports
coupled with the import laws, whereby goods
from England destined for the South paid more
taxes than goods to the North became untentable.
Money and power were the root causes of the
Civil War not Slavory.

Posted: 3/4/2001 2:53:56 PM EDT

[#44]

How about a black transvestite in Civil War garb attending a gun show? Disturbing image?
Ridiculous thread here.

Posted: 3/4/2001 3:29:58 PM EDT

[#45]

I will say that I'm very impressed with what Pig said. Sounded nice to me. Well, I'm black/hispanic (Two minorities in one, heh) and I've never been to a gun show. Do you know why? Because I know there are people there who will look at me as a "gang banger" because the way I dress, and my age. I would fall into that steriotypic (sp) category I guess. So I don't go due to I'd be unconfertable. But you know what, I still own a AR-15 (yes, it's legal). I go to shotting ranges to practice, and I sign up for web sites like this. So now that you know I'm a minority with a gun, do I scare you? Or do you think that I may own a gun to protect myself from criminals (minorities or not), just as you do?

Posted: 3/4/2001 3:50:17 PM EDT

[#46]

Sundog, to paraphrase a fine Tennessee gentleman, you can go to Hell, I'm going to Texas.

Posted: 3/4/2001 4:02:30 PM EDT

[#47]

ET3,

One comment....I do NOT (from one brotha to anotha) look at you as a gang banger because of your age. Many of todays youth wear half way normal clothes that allow respect and fashion.

For the life of me, I can see no reason in this world for ANYONE to wear their pants around their knees. When I see that I think 'GAYBANGER'!!! The cops se it, think you are a gangbanger, take you to jail, where your (_!_) is unprotected by pants and you are BANGED!!!

Seriously, SMALL modifications to the outward appearance will do wonders on they way general society sees you.

BTW...this prejudice of mine extends to ANYONE who does NOT pull thier pants up!!!

OUT HERE!!!

Posted: 3/4/2001 4:04:54 PM EDT

[#48]

Well, at some of the local shows here we have a black man (and a former president of the local chapter of the NAACP) who attends in a CW Confederate uniform, carrying the correct flag sometimes, and tells everyone who listens how he believes that in the long run blacks would be better off if the south had won, and that blacks lived better under southern rule than most people think (he makes some good points, but I am not fully convinced yet).

What catagory does he fall into?

Hows that for diversity!

Posted: 3/4/2001 4:31:32 PM EDT

[#49]

The history of gun control in America is steeped
in racism:
Gun Control Timeline
[url]www.uh.edu/~dbarclay/rm/time.htm[/url]

Posted: 3/4/2001 4:40:56 PM EDT

[#50]

African-Americans do not bother me at the shows. But the gangs that show up do! I've seen everything from "Nazi skinheads" to "Crips", Bloods", & local gangs showing up. I'm sure alot of you guys have seen the same. They do frequent the low end tables and purchase alot of those books that state on the back that lovely phrase: "For academic & informational purposes only!"(some of my favorites!). I don't believe alot can be done about it

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