Posted: 1/2/2008 6:37:24 PM EDT
A-f*ckin'-Men!! Still, good for him standing his ground and not letting some piece of shit get away. 
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DAMN! Good think he wasn't "racking" a shotgun. The sound of that would have made the robber pass out and shit himself. |
Exactly my thought. What the hell would he have done had the perp turned and pointed the pistol at him? 
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"Shit himself and died" is my guess had the robber been smart enough to buy some ammo and show up with a loaded gun. 
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 Good thing he didn't have to react quickly
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That is a damn good question. Hmmm. Well, I've generally stated to people that if I pull my gun on another that has a gun, as in this situation, I'd drop him. Then again, I don't know unless I'm there. Suppose the robber had a LOADED weapon. You yell freeze and you stand a good chance that the guy will shoot you, or the person they are holding the gun on. Being that this scum had NO ammo in his gun, WTF else he gonna do? I am glad he was able to put an end to it. He did, marginally, come w/ greater firepower 
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| From my understanding, perhaps doctrine has changed, Shin Bet carries unloaded and they are trained to rack the slide when drawing. I'm guessing the reason for that is if ever disarmed the weapon can not be turned on them without the assailant first chambering a round themselves, giving the agent time to disarm him. I remember reading that they did not carry loaded and when drawing the weapon the round is chambered after clearing the holster as it is brought to chest level and trained on the target. Always thought that seemed crazy myself, but it is/was their doctrine. |
Dunno if it is still this way or not, but KCPD did the same thing. I went in for a preliminary interview kind of thing, and they had some guns and dummy rounds, and that's how they demonstrated it...unchambered, cycle the slide as part of the draw. They also explained that it was primarily to protect the officer in the event of getting disarmed by a suspect. As for the story here, good job I guess. Can't believe he would pull an unloaded gun on someone who was pointing a gun at somebody else! guess the fact that they both had unloaded guns goes pretty high up there on the zomg! factor.... |
Wish I still had the article, but they showed several men who were purportedly Shin Bet demonstrating the technique. Doesn't Mossad Ayoob post here? Maybe he will see this and can shed some light on the issue. |
It COULD be that the gun was loaded, and he racked the slide to get the BG's attention... to prove it was loaded... and the newspaper got the story wrong. Stranger things have happened. I could see myself doing that, just to prove I mean business. A .45 hollowpoint looks like the Grand Canyon. |
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I remember hi-speed still shots of Cooper demonstrating the "Army quick draw" that involved taking a 1911 from "Condition 3" (unchambered, loaded mag, in a closed full flap GI holster) to a shot fired in less than 1.5 seconds. The biggest difference? The good guy knew WTF he was doing, and additionally, came prepared (brought ammo).
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Ummm  I'd have achieved sight alignment, sight picture and pressed the trigger 2 rd's center mass and aimed for the off box is that failed to stop his ignorant behavior. My first words would have been "Can someone call 911?"I HOPE TO GOD HE EJECTED THE ONE IN THE PIPE! Unloaded guns are a poor club at best. |
I learned condition three draws in the Marine Corps. We took a close combat pistol course taught by the Marine Corps Security Forces Battalion (Lant) trainers. Seems that some of the European countries we had det's in required condition 3 carry. Story I got was that the Mossad had such a mix of weapons that they always carried condition 3 safety off so as to never have to futz with the safety of a strange to them weapon. |
I don't doubt that it can be done very quickly, just try it with one hand. |