Posted: 12/14/2007 4:45:09 AM EDT
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Is the quality of a DPMS AR-15 good enough that you would trust your life to it? Why are DPMS rifles so cheap? |
| The only rifle I would trust my self with is a Colt or an FN. Some have made their way back from Iraq and are selling for $400 for a lower receiver. I learned this from my friend who is a SEAL. The early Colts were made by Mattel. Good thing to, those barrels get hot in full auto fire, esp. when you file down the firing pin. |
+11ty billion Nothing but a colt filed down for full auto. When I shoot I like to double tap through the same hole so I need the full auto fast enough to put the bullets one right behind the other almost touching. |
so you don't like the Vulcan rifles anymore? 
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 You need to get with the program!
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It's like a laser beam of bullety goodness! DA NEW BEAMZ! 
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bullshit my wife's sister's uncle's accountant just got back from some contract work in asscrackia and he said all the operators were using them and the only thing they added was an accu-wedge (orange ones, not the red ones) I expected more knowledge from you |
Ditto...! |
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Get em while you can: DPMS Prepares for Future Under New Ownership Focus on developing innovative products and serving our customers ST. CLOUD, Minn., Dec. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- DPMS, a leading supplier of AR15 based rifles, parts and accessories announced today that its assets have been acquired by an affiliate of Cerberus Capital Management, L.P. Randy Luth, DPMS founder and President, remarked, "We were looking for a partner that could enhance our expertise in operations and further develop our sales and marketing capabilities. Cerberus is a partner that can help us in those areas and provide the financial and operational resources required to expand our business. We look forward to working with them. After starting this business 21 years ago, I couldn't be more excited about our prospects for the future, both in terms of the growth we believe we can achieve and the level of satisfaction and value we can provide to our customers." In connection with the transaction, Mr. Luth will remain President of the newly formed DPMS Firearms, LLC and will continue to oversee the strategic and operational aspects of DPMS. Added Mr. Luth, "I would like to thank our employees, first and foremost. Their hard work, and the support of our dedicated customers, has brought us to where we are today. As we look forward, we see increased interest in our new calibers, based on the proven DPMS 'LR' rifle platform. With our technical expertise and the commitment of our new owners, we intend to broaden the breadth and depth of our rifle and accessories offerings to current and new markets. We will continue to provide not only great value to our loyal customers, but also the high level of customer service we are known for." The March Group, a private investment banking firm based in Nashville, TN, acted as financial advisor to DPMS. Principal Brantley Kemp was responsible for managing the transaction and advising DPMS on its strategic alternatives. About DPMS Firearms, LLC Headquartered in St. Cloud, Minnesota, DPMS Firearms, LLC manufactures and distributes a complete line of AR15 based rifles and components, as well as rifle platforms in other calibers. DPMS systems are in use by law enforcement agencies, military personnel and civilians worldwide, including the U.S. Border Patrol, security agencies in Iraq, the Jordanian army, America's top competitive shooters and big game hunters. Media Contact For DPMS Firearms Dustin Emholtz: 1-800-578-3767 |
I think he was being facetious.
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OP = DU  Another glorius thread to kick off a Friday morning: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=650423 And looking for a Delta Seal Sniper Hunting buddy: www.jobrelatedstuff.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=641729&page=1 |
Cerebrus owns Remington, Bushmaster, & DPMS. I wonder how this will change their marketing. |
rumors of an A3 Vulcan with a 4.6:2 twist rate are coming out supposedly they are only working out the details for the sniper quadrapod railed thingy and then it will be out first units are going to Idaho Nat'l Guard I think |
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In all seriousness, I've never had an issue with my DPMS M-4gery. It makes rounds go boom, that's all I can ask of it. On the other hand, I had a LR-308 from DPMS which was a POS. Finicky about ammo, failure to feeds, and worst of all..no forward assist. And if ever there was a rifle that needed a forward assist, this was it. DPMS is fine for AR-15 stuff, but stay away from their heavier calibre offerings. YMMV |
Look, if its good enough for Spock, its damned sure good enough for you! |
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My primary dedicated HD ARs both happen to be Bushmasters, but I have a few DPMSs I would trust my life to. For example, I'd trust my life to this particular one (.308 AP4)...  ... without hesitation.  (Yes, I know about the OP, but this question is legitimate enough to deserve at least one or two more serious answers.  )
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Mine was crap until I put in the accuwedge, the purple one, and that other thing, you know, that goes up in the back. Now I don't even have to pull the trigger, and it shoots all over the place. |
Do you have the tire deflator though? All the true operators use them. |
Rumor is that Vulcan is coming out with an AR-15 that uses the same chamber as the AK-47. You can shoot both .223, 5.56mm, and 7.62x39mm. (possibly .308 and 7.62x51mm also not sure about that yet) Vulcan has also signed a deal with Honda. It allows Vulcan to use the "eco friendly" technology of Honda cars that reduces gas emissions. By having lower gas emission Vulcan hopes to eliminate the gas fouling problem that has plauged the M-16 for decades. |
Sorry, there is no such thing as a DPMS AR10. |
Oh Shit forgive the shit out of me How could I forget that you have to be exact to the last fucking letter for model number when referring to a firearm in here! So dam sorry. But most in here did not feel the need to reprimand me knowing I simply meant a ar in 308. Here is the link to the page for my rifle in full detail for you. DPMS |
I don't give a flying fuck what you meant nor whether anyone else reprimanded you. DPMS does not make an AR10, period. If you meant a .308/7.62 AR, then say so. I have heard people bitching about their AR10 only to find out it was another brand. This has happened more than once. |
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I would use a DPMS for duty provided it had the following features. 14.5" chrome line 1:7 5.56mm proof fired Brl with a forged F marked FSB and M4 brl extension. Has to be true 5.56mm chamber and throat. Not just marked that way on the brl. forged upper reciever with M4 feed ramps. M16 bolt carrier with proper gas key staking. MPI tested and proof fired bolt. Colt copper colored extractor spring with black insert and crane O-ring. Milspec receiver extension and 9mm buffer (H buffer also acceptable but not preferred). Properly staked castle nut. Forged lower. Take down and pivot pins operate with finger pressure only but upper to lower fit tight with no rattles. As long as it has those features i dont care who made it. |
Did we miss or prozac this mornign Dude you need to stop step back take a fucking chill pill 
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Very cute. Rather than prozac, it sounds like you need an anti-ignorance pill. DPMS does not make an AR10, period. If you can't fathom that, too fucking bad. It is not I that needs a cup of STFU as I seem to know the difference between the two brands. As for "think before you say something stupid", maybe you should look in the mirror and apply that little saying. It is not I who is being stupid, dduuuddddeee. Even on the page you linked, DPMS does not call it an AR10 and yet you say that I am being stupid. Not fucking hardly. |
So...ummm... what's the difference between an AR-10 and an AR-15 chambered in .308? I don't know and would like to learn. |
That's not what it's about. He has an LR-308AP4 by DPMS and wants to call it an AR10. It's not. I am not knocking the DPMS, just that it's not an AR10. AR10 is a registered trademark. I don't call my AR10 an LR-308AP4 and I am sure that LR-308AP4 is a registered trademark as well. Now, the difference between an AR15 clone 5.56/.223 rifle and any .308/7.62 NATO rifle is that it's just bigger. The bolt and carrier are bigger and the reciever is longer. A lot of the fire control parts such as the trigger group, safety, etc are the same on the two caliber rifles. |
Personal experence, I built a postban 20" A2 from a DPMS parts kit from fac when they were in business, built on an olympic arms stripped lower no less. It was 100% reliable except for a small batch of reloads I fucked up on and it was easily the most accurate AR I have ever owned. Off the bench with a scope I could shoot 5 shot groups at 100 yrds you could cover with a dime with my handloads. I guy I used to shoot with offered me allmost $100 more for it than I had in it, after shooting 5k + through it I jumped on that 
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I get cranky when you point out a fact to someone who is incorrect on that fact and they want to say you are the one being stupid. |
The point is who anointed you Mr Correct? Nobody but you gave a fuck you took it upon your self to show every body that I made a mistake in calling the same kind of rifle by a different model number Wow what a major problem I wonder if it made the stock market drop?? Its guys like you that make this web site so dam hard to post in it takes all the fun out of it. |
It's not a matter of being annointed anything. If it is no fun here anymore, why don't you just leave then. Point out anything I said that was not factual. |
The real point is, you seem to relish correcting people on stupid, useless shit, denigrating them for no apparent reason other than to boost your own self worth. The real fact of the matter is that nobody but you REALLY cares about any of this shit, and you only make yourself look like an asshole. Read the reactions to this thread and the trucker thread, and maybe you'll see my point. Or you'll just insult me because I'm young, giving no credence to the idea that I might actually be correct. |
Well, for a bunch of people who don't care, y'all sure are getting upset. As for the trucker thread, I stand by what I said. A mix of ice and snow, yeah, but pure ice, no. As for this thread, can you point out anything I said that was not factual? And when I have insulted you, especially saying you are young and don't know anything? |
