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12/11/2007 3:00:12 PM EDT
I am thinking of picking up a new gun next week for kind of a reward for getting through a tough semester of school. I have my eye on a couple and wanted to know what ARFCOM thinks I should get. I am also open to suggestions. Would like to keep it under $400. Poll inbound.


ETA
I have all my bases covered and this would be an "extra" gun. My brother is starting to enjoy deer hunting and I have been letting him use my shotgun, but was thinking of picking up an extra rifle to have around for when he is visiting and we hunt. (he is 16 so he cant buy one yet). That is what the 30/30 and .243 would be for. I already have a p22 so the others would just be for fun, not a necessity.
12/11/2007 3:00:34 PM EDT
[#1]
IBTP.
12/11/2007 3:00:48 PM EDT
[#2]
IBTP

$400 huh?


Used Steyr M9A1, Used M&P 9mm, complete AR lower, SAR or SAR2, WASR2, new 870....

The list goes on.
12/11/2007 3:01:07 PM EDT
[#3]
Rifle, Pistol, Shotty? What are you looking for?
12/11/2007 3:01:16 PM EDT
[#4]
Buy them both.
12/11/2007 3:04:35 PM EDT
[#5]
Assuming you already have a 9mm/.40/.45 handgun and an AR/AK, I'd definitely get a Ruger Mk II,III, or 22-45.  Hell, if you buy one used, you could get a Ruger 10/22 as well, and the two of them would be under $400 combined.  I love my Ruger .22's.
12/11/2007 3:07:13 PM EDT
[#6]
Well from the poll, I would get a Savage. Then the .22 pistol.
12/11/2007 3:10:14 PM EDT
[#7]
I voted other.


Get yourself a Browning Buckmark .22


You'll thank me later.
12/11/2007 3:10:39 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I voted other.


Get yourself a Browning Buckmark .22


You'll thank me later.

Tell me more. Better than ruger?
12/11/2007 3:11:27 PM EDT
[#9]
With ammo being so high lately, get the .22--you can shoot a lot more for less.

HH
12/11/2007 3:12:59 PM EDT
[#10]
I would get the Ruger.  It is nice to have a .22 because of how affordable it is to shoot.
12/11/2007 3:13:28 PM EDT
[#11]
FYI - Did you see the post today with YouTube video of the idoit muzzle sweeping a sub 2000?  I think it was 40 caliber but it jammed a number of times.
12/11/2007 3:15:00 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I voted other.


Get yourself a Browning Buckmark .22


You'll thank me later.

Tell me more. Better than ruger?


Absolutely not. I voted for the Mark III
12/11/2007 3:15:13 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I voted other.


Get yourself a Browning Buckmark .22


You'll thank me later.

Tell me more. Better than ruger?


I've shot the Rugers, and didn't care for the accuracy and the feel of in in my hand.

Plus, I personally wouldn't buy anything from Ruger considering what that son of a bitch did during the AWB.
12/11/2007 3:20:02 PM EDT
[#14]
I voted for the Kel-Tec, because I thinkthey're neat and I want one myself, but the Mk III is a GREAT choice. I can't keep track of how many 550rd Wally world boxes of .22 I have shot through my Mk II. The bore looks as nice as the day I bought it. I have seen Mk I's frequently that are still going with 10's of thousands of rounds through them. And, they're cheap to shoot.

Don't let the naysayers deterr you with stories of incompetent people who can't figure out how to assemble them after cleaning. I mean, come on! It's like 5 parts, how hard can it be?
12/11/2007 3:21:37 PM EDT
[#15]
If you don't already have a .22 pistol or revolver, you need one.  They're accurate, easy to shoot and cheap to feed.  What more could you ask for ?  
12/11/2007 3:31:06 PM EDT
[#16]
Get the Ruger or a Buckmark.  Both are great guns and for now, still really cheap to shoot.
12/11/2007 3:34:08 PM EDT
[#17]
I love my Sub-2k..And it give a great excuse to buy shitloads of full cap glock mags..
12/11/2007 3:34:56 PM EDT
[#18]
That's a wide choice , if your looking for a hunting rifle Marlin makes a nice one.

If your looking for a long range .243 Savage is a nice choice.

You got to decide if you want a handgun or a long gun.
12/11/2007 3:38:49 PM EDT
[#19]
Get the Ruger..

A good 22 auto pistol is the foundation of a decent gun collection
12/11/2007 4:18:20 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
That's a wide choice , if your looking for a hunting rifle Marlin makes a nice one.

If your looking for a long range .243 Savage is a nice choice.

You got to decide if you want a handgun or a long gun.

I have all my bases covered, this is just my want list and it looks like I'll be able check one off that list next week.
12/11/2007 4:20:33 PM EDT
[#21]
Ruger Mark I
12/11/2007 5:26:44 PM EDT
[#22]
What are the differences in the ruger MK I, II, and III?
12/11/2007 5:28:09 PM EDT
[#23]
browning buckmark.
12/11/2007 5:28:53 PM EDT
[#24]
Savage in .30-06 or .308.
12/11/2007 5:35:48 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
I would get the Ruger.  It is nice to have a .22 because of how affordable it is to shoot.


I like Ruger's and 22's but with your thinking, why not get a BB gun as it's way cheaper than a 22.

Anyway for the OP. Tell us what you already have and what you want to do.
Otherwise you are bragging about having $400 burning a hole in your pocket and wanting to spend it before your leg gets too hot.

12/11/2007 5:35:50 PM EDT
[#26]
cant go wrong with a .22
12/11/2007 5:38:15 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Savage in .30-06 or .308.


Agreed.


+1 for Ruger as well.
12/11/2007 5:41:10 PM EDT
[#28]
buck mark
12/11/2007 5:45:19 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
What are the differences in the ruger MK I, II, and III?


MkI won't hold the bolt open after the last round is fired. Also lacks a depression where you grab the bolt/slide handle.In AR speak it would be called a charging handle. So didn't know what to call it.

The MkII has both.

MkIII has the Mag disconnect so the gun won't shoot without a mag in it. Also loaded chamber indicator.

MkII is better than a MkI or MkIII as I see it.
12/11/2007 5:47:39 PM EDT
[#30]
I say Sub 2K because it'd add to my jealously.  Recent Youtube video or no.

<---  See state.
12/11/2007 5:49:31 PM EDT
[#31]
The Ruger MkIII or some kind of Single Six
12/11/2007 5:53:26 PM EDT
[#32]
I voted Savage based on personal preference. That said, we really need to know what you have in your collection to help you round it out.
12/11/2007 5:54:44 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
The Ruger MkIII or some kind of Single Six


Sold my MkI after buying my Single Six.  I really appreciate how the gun makes me slow down and concentrate on the fundamentals.  I'll own another .22LR semi-auto pistol at some point, but that Single Six will be passed on to one of my kids when that day comes.
12/11/2007 5:55:12 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Anyway for the OP. Tell us what you already have and what you want to do.
Otherwise you are bragging about having $400 burning a hole in your pocket and wanting to spend it before your leg gets too hot.



Edited original post to clarify.
12/11/2007 5:57:40 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Anyway for the OP. Tell us what you already have and what you want to do.
Otherwise you are bragging about having $400 burning a hole in your pocket and wanting to spend it before your leg gets too hot.



Edited original post to clarify.


Thank you.
Sometimes I get umm "unnice" but I'll try and help if I can.


ETA With the added information.
At his age I would think a lever action 30/30 would do nicely for a beginner and with the understanding that he would not be taking long shots at the Deer.
Winchester 94 in 30/30 would be just fine for this and way under the $400 price range.
12/11/2007 6:04:11 PM EDT
[#36]
+1 for a .22
12/11/2007 6:11:14 PM EDT
[#37]
+1 for something in 22.

The only problem with a Savage .308 is that you'll have to feed it on 50c+ ammo... which is why I've avoided getting one
12/11/2007 6:13:33 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What are the differences in the ruger MK I, II, and III?


MkI won't hold the bolt open after the last round is fired. Also lacks a depression where you grab the bolt/slide handle.In AR speak it would be called a charging handle. So didn't know what to call it.

The MkII has both.

MkIII has the Mag disconnect so the gun won't shoot without a mag in it. Also loaded chamber indicator.

MkII is better than a MkI or MkIII as I see it.


Absolutely. When the MKIII first came out, the LCI was made of metal. A sharp blow on the LCI would actually dent the rim of the case and firethe gun!

Ruger solved the problem by using a plastic LCI in newer models and recalling the metal ones.

Also, the magazine disconnect makes the assembly / disassembly a little more complicated, which further befuddles those who have trouble with the MKII.

Good news is, you can order an aftermarket hammer from volquartsen (specify MKII) and drop it in your MKIII which will eliminate the mag disconnect.

One other difference with the MKIII is that some of the steel frame models have an integral firearm lock (similar to those on the springer 1911 MSH).

In short, the differences between MKII and MKIII are primarily added "safety" devices dreamed up by lawyers who don't go shooting and have no idea what a pain in the ass those changes really are.

If you find any brand new MKII pistols, snap them up. You'll never see another ruger .22 pistol without the disgusting hole cut in the side of the receiver again.
12/11/2007 6:46:02 PM EDT
[#39]
Get yourself a 308 lower.  It will give you incentive to justify the upper.