[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Hey Bush Bashers (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 11/11/2007 5:50:08 AM EDT
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In the upcoming Supreme Court case, which is the most important 2nd Amendment case since 1934 we will have four justices already on our side. Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas. Two of those were appointed by President Bush. You owe HALF of the given support in the SC to President Bush. And don't give me any H. Myers crap. He made a mistake and then listened to reason and appointed an outstanding judge. More than Rudy or ANY democrap would do. |
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Machine-gun Sammy is a lock but I see no indication that Roberts is an automatic win for our side. While he's tended to a conservative view in the past, there's promise that he won't swing left on this case. Rehnquist tended to choose to err on the side of conservativism, as well. |
I think his true level of intelligence showed with his first appointment,Harriet Myers.It's like Cheney slapped him in back of the head and said: "Before you make any more SC appointments,check with someone first, mmmkay Georgie?" |
Regardless, he listened. BTW, that was Reagan's greatest asset. Do you think Rudy would? |
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He's not as bad as his detractors like to say, and he wasn't as good as everyone wanted to paint him to be right after 9-11. He's a decent president, and from what I have heard from people who have actually met him he is a decent man. He presides in a difficult period in American history. |
I'm with bubba on this one. No one is perfect. Max |
Sherrick,to tell you the truth,I have lost all faith in politics so I have no idea what ANY politician is liable to do nowadays.Rudy,Paul,Romney,Thompson,Clinton,Osama etc..they are all the same in my eyes,lying scumbag lumps of shit that will say and do anything to be in power. |
| While I am definitely not happy with most of Bush's domestic policies I don't think he is a terrible guy. As someone studying SCOTUS and too damn many of their cases I would caution that we shouldn't count our chickens before they hatch with any of the justices. It's not uncommon for any of them to take the opposite view you would expect them too when the situation warrants in their mind. |
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"Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas." Thomas has never written a decision and has never asked a question. He lives to spite those who caused him problems during confirmation. Scalia - thinks the Constitution is antiquated. Has yet to vote in favor of the people in any case limiting the power of the government. Roberts, Alito - much like Scalia though not as much of a track record. I wouldn't bank on these four finding in favor of the rights of the people. |
George W. Bush will go down in History as a good president. He made some very hard choices in a very difficult time. He made choices he knew would be unpopular, but he felt were the right decisions to make. He is not worried about his legacy or how history will judge him. I voted for him twice and would do so again. The only thing that really upset me during his presidency was the immigration issue. Who could have done a better job? Al Gore, John Kerry? Hindsight is 20/20 it is easy to look back and say he did this or that wrong. But with the information he had he made a decision and stuck with it. At the least you have to respect him for that. Al Gore would be fighting the war on global warming not fighting terrorist; Kerry would have sent them a letter. President George W. Bush was the best man for the job. |
Some people here have a problem separating Bush the man from Bush the President. I don't think anyone ever said he wouldn't be a good guy to have a beer with or go to a ball game with. But as a President, he's made crucial errors in judgment that have harmed the country. He's depended far too much on advisors like Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfawitz and Rove and their advice has made billions for their friends and contractor buddies but been bad for America. He's let his oil buddies both domestic and foreign (Saudi) influence him way too much and he's relied on bad military advice from a long list of now fired generals. He's been a domestic disaster from the illegal alien issue to Katrina and his appointments to key positions have been more based on cronyism than merit. He's way too cozy with people who don't believe in evolution, his stand against stem cell research is wrong and while he's certainly free to hold whatever religious beliefs he chooses, he needs to listen more to his science advisers than to his ministers. That being said, its an incredibly tough job and while no one can say if anyone else could have done better, its more than fair to say it would be hard to do a lot worse. After 8 years its likely he'll leave office with 2 unfinished wars, New Orleans still a mess, illegal aliens up in the air, the largest deficits in history and his party hanging on by a thread. You may think he's done a great job, but you'd be wrong. |
President Bush is better than ANY democratic hopeful by leaps and bounds. In comparison, they are a far off twinkle next to ball of fire. THANK GOD we had President Bush serving for the past eight years. I shudder imagining what sort of utter devastation and collapse this country would be facing under a democrat president. President Bush has done an outstanding job. He's side stepped the border issue... let's see... yeah - like every single president before him. So, I guess if the man is doing a good job, the haters have to invent a reason to swing their noose in front of the audience. I'd vote for him a 3rd time if it was possible. 
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amen brother ... amen |
According to his people he would have turned around and signed off on the first AWB bill to have crossed his desk, or if the one up for renewal had made it to his desk. |
No argument here.
This one I have to disagree with you on. President Bush has fought vigorously to forward a specific agenda regarding the border and an amnesty program for illegal aliens. He tried it twice and was unsuccessful only because of the enormous public outcry over the issue. Over all he's doing a good job. He's on the wrong side of the border issue and his administration has made some mistakes in regards to Iraq (specifically in dealing with this new government and underestimating the levels of division and violence that would follow Saddam's downfall). I personally am glad that Presidents are limited to two terms, but if I had to vote in a three way with Bush running against Hillary and Rudy then I would vote for Bush without thinking twice. |
 The same Thomas that said:
This the Scalia that said... "The Constitution is not an organism. It is a legal document.". The same Scalia that in writing that has come down on the individual right interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. You don't know what you are talking about or have another axe to grind, I would bank on them far more that you. |
is right"Thomas has never written a decision and has never asked a question"...Good Lord where does this crap come from? |
Yea Thomas has written decisions and has asked questions... he did not ask any question last term but them he never did ask many... so what? It is really strange to single out those three Justices as doubtful on their 2nd Amendment position being on our side. |
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Show your love for Bush here: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=638269&page=1 |
His ass, since that appears to be where his head is. |
"TrijiCog" Occasionally wrong, but never disappointed.
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+ Quite possibly the stupidest, most ill-informed post ever in GD. Wow. And because people need reminding, Even Ginsburg has uttered some 'individual right' stuff in the past. |
You are making one heck of an assumption. When it comes to guns and the right to own them party affiliation does not matter. You have republican gun grabbers running for president. So don't count on Republicans to save our rights as they want them out of our hands just as much as the democrats do. |
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I seemed to have missed this side stepping of the border issue in between his attempts at trying to cram amnesty down our throats. Bush is an ass. If the Supreme Court rules in our favor on the 2nd then I will give Bush an "attaboy" otherwise he has been worthless. |
+1....I can't think of anyone in the GOP that has a chance in hell that would be a better choice. |
...and he said that knowing that an AWB didn't have nearly enough support to ever make it to his desk. That's called "having your cake and eating it too" or more accurately, it's called "politics" If you have doubts about his 2A record...remember that he signed the "concealed carry" bill here in TX when Ann Richards (Poor Ann was the Dumbo-crat that preceeded him in office) wouldn't even sign off on a non-binding referendum. |
I had a discussion with a "conservative" the other day and I mentioned this to him about W. Do you have the source for this? I remember it, but forgot the source. I'd love to prove it to him. |
Well said. Blake |
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If both of his picks vote in our favor, and we win the case, then it will be an accomplishment. The only positive accomplishment of the bush admin, as far as I'm concerned. Not an accomplishment which rates his government as 'average or above,' but still, an accomplishment for which he gets his due. If we lose the case, for whatever reason, then he is absolutely worthless and irredeemable. |
Yep. |
Couldn't have said it better. |
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Bush's greatist screwup are unrelated to the war on terror/ 9/11/ Iraq. Even if those events had never occurred he would still be unpopular with conservatives. Condoms for the congo. Senior Rx drug welfare. No child left behind. Harriot Myers. Alberto Gonzales. Amnesty for illegals. Being Opecs bitch. |
 How exactly is Bush OPECs bitch… The President has begged Congress to pass bills that would allow increased drilling. It was not the President that made much of our know oil reserves off limits to drilling, it was not the President that shut down construction of new nuclear power plants, it was not the President that did his best to cripple US energy production. How many letters have you written to Congress and newspapers demanding more drilling, more nuclear power, more coal and oil from coal… if you want to see OPECs bitch take a good look in the mirror. |
Thomas did right by "the People" in Gonzales v. Raich.
Not true. Alfonso Lopez and Antonio Morrison (both shitbags in their own right) would back me up on this.
"Word." I am hopeful yet fearful. I keep going back to Scalia's concurrence in Raich.
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