[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Mini 14? (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 10/29/2007 5:03:24 PM EDT
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Am I missing it or do we not have a subsection for the Mini 14? We seem to have one for every other gun out there... Iv'e been thinking about making one semi high speed, just for fun and to stay sharp without having to fork out for a AR. Any other forums out there or do we have one? |
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I would like to see a Mini 14 / mini 30 section as well. Don't make a gun that is not an AR into one. Appreciate the ruger mini's and their advantages for what they are and that they are not AR15's. Worth getting over an AR, no way. Worth getting in addition to an AR, yes. Knowing a different operating system that shoots the same caliber as your AR is a good thing. 
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| The direct gas issue aside I would be surprised if you actualy save any money after all of the tuning and mods it would take to get a mini 14 to perform as well as an AR15. I'm not plugging the AR15 here, I own one because its a good idea, and mine shoots well with qualified hands on it. I dislike the AR15 enough that I threw down the cash and bought an FS2000 when it was time to get a new carbine. I am not a big fan of the mini 14 either. I must say that I know to guys that use them very well at our local "run and gun" type of competitions. This proves in the end that weapons are not dangerous, its the men useing them. The point though, is that if you want a 5.56 carbine to trick out the AR15 is most likely the best way to go. You could try an Armalite AR180B, they go for about 750$. The gas system in them kicks ass, I'm not sure if Armalite has made any rail systems for them yet. |
The only advantages of the Mini14 is that it looks more PC (though there are an assload of bolt ons that make it un look PC), can be had used for dirt cheap (after the owner realizes that an AR is better) and aren't banned in California. |
Low sight over bore axis for POI=POA Low profile in looks (to the layman jury, imagine "assult rifle" versus "ranch rifle") Here in Hawaii, regular capacity magazines are not banned Gas piston operating system Worth getting over an AR, no way. Worth getting in addition to an AR, yes. Knowing a different operating system that shoots the same caliber as your AR is a good thing. |
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I have 2 Mini's, 1 was passed down from my dad, who bought it when they first came out, because he loved the M1A and the mini was based on that design. The second is a SS one that I picked up for a good price because for the money I couldn't beat it, AND it's a lot more PC when teaching people how to shoot or using it for teaching hunter safety classes and stuff like that. Plus, anything that will put bullets downrange is fun... 
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That is the best way to look at it. I want a GB. |
I guarantee you I can make an AR shoot more accurately than a Mini-14 for cheaper and with no gunsmith services required. |
 I'm a mini-14 owner and I know that is total bullshit. Bedding, trigger job, chopping the barrel, adding a FH (ie weight) to the end of the barrel only bring the Mini-14 CLOSE to a stock AR. It is still a 2-3 moa gun, where as a stock AR is still a 1-2 moa gun stock. |
If CProducts ever makes Mini14 mags, I'm going to get one. |
Im sorry your misinformed. My father had his mini worked on by www.accuracysystemsinc.com/index.php Ive shot hundreds of rounds through it. Im not the best shooter and i can get nickel size 5 shoot groups at 100 yards. |
What does GB mean? |
Is that with a scope or irons? What kind of ammo are you using? |
Mini-14 GB was the paramilitary model intended for the LE market. Flash hider, bayonet lug, parked finish on some models, and an optional folding stock. I always thought they were pretty neat, even if they are inferior to an AR. Examples for sale here Personally, I like the fixed stock model better. |
Wrong. I've owned three over the years. They were all pieces of crap. I sold them. You can not find good 30-round mags for less than $50 apiece. Ruger won't sell hicap mags to us lowly "civilians" as honest people have no need of more than 10 rounds, ever. If something breaks, you have to send it to Ruger to get it fixed (Ruger won't sell parts). On my Ranch Rifle, I couldn't keep the scope rings tight without loctite. The skinny-ass barrels heat up immediately, and after just a few rounds the groups start wandering around. The triggers suck (one was over 15 pounds new), and the sights suck. All in all, those three rifles were the biggest pieces of trash I have ever owned. |
DO NOT WANT! ETA: I will be lambasted for saying this but I perfer my CMP GI M1 Carbine which I payed $500 for to a $800 Mini 14. |
There is no Direct gas issue, other that it is a more modern improved design. You are obsessed with the piston driven gas system for some reason. |
I'm with you there. I prefer my DCM GI M1 Carbine to any Mini-14.  $800 is WAY overpriced, but you didn't think I'd post my source for a much cheaper GB did you? 
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I've got a Ranch I bought during the ban. I wasn't in to ARs then at all. I might sell it some day, but who knows. One thing I will say is that it is 100% reliable. I've done some mods to it like chopping it to 16", threading it to 1/2x28 and adding an A2 FH, and got a trigger job done. The new promags run flawlessly. I would say 85% of the people in this thread have never owned one, probably never shot one and have taken their Mini 101 from heresay. Shoot good ammo through it and it will shoot a lot more accurately than a lot of people think. The AR is a superior weapon, but they're apples and oranges IMHO. My AR is my go-to gun. What is really amazing is how many guys have $1k in a 1911 that is accurate but not 100% reliable. Food for thought. |
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The Mini is what it is....a reliable short range varmint gun. Mine was the older -181- series. It was my introduction to the .223/5.56mm world of shooting. It was economical to buy (bought for $400--shot the whiz out of it--sold for $450). It accepted all the off-brand mags, mostly Western 30 rounders. Only one I ever had trouble with was the 10rd mag that came with it. If I wanted it to shoot accurately, I had to use good ammo -- accurate for this stock iron sight Mini = 2-4 MOA @100yds. Wolf and foreign surplus plinking ammo grouped like 50yd buckshot. While everyone was bitchin' and bellyachin' about Olympic ammo blowing up their precious fragile AR's....my Mini was shooting the hell out of it and asking for seconds. In fact, I only remember a couple of "stove-pipes" from weak Wolf ever slowing it down. A string of 5 shots heated up the pencil barrel like a branding iron, hated that. Sold it because I caught black rifle disease...and accurizing the mini to AR levels meant lots of $$gun$mithing$$ far beyond just selling it and buying a stock AR. But it was good while I had it...no regrets..just don't buy one thinking you're gonna get a super-accurized ubertactical ninjatized AR sniper rifle. |
GB stands Government Barrel. Here's mine 
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Government Barrel I think. I own one. I like it. We used full auto ones when I went to SWAT school. It is not as accurate as an AR. , To me it is a collector's item. I bought one in stainless because I will live on a salt water based boat someday. They are minute of man accurate. It will be good enough to repel boarders.
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So is an AK on a good day. |
Yes, but did he get a replacement barrel? I was looking at that for mine, but when they were offering (3?) types of new bull barrels, all the mods necessary priced me out past an AR. I traded it off to a guy here for a 20" A2 full upper assembly. Worse problem besides my minute-o-barn was the magazines. 
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I owned a Mini-14 for a short time before I bought my Stag AR. I did own it long ehough to give enough chances to prove itself. Feed failures, ejection failures, minute of barn accuracy, heavier than an AR and less comfortable to fire. It's really no wonder that the A-Team never hit shit. It aint that they weren't trying. That rifle is plain and simple a damned travesty. |
I have an account there, though the last time i logged in was in july of 06. ETA:Logged in and saw a cool .gif i made long ago, thought maybe someone would like it. 
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On a good day, slow fire, match ammo you might get down to 1.5 moa, but who fires like that on ARFCOM? I'll say onething, with a chopped barrel, it is a very light and handy carbine - more so than my AR's. Edit: I refer to a modified mini when talking about "on a good day" not the POS stock guns |
Still waiting to hear back on how you attained those nickel sized 5 shot groups at 100 yards. |
Couldn't have said it better myself. |