[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Why the Jews? (Page 1 of 7)
Posted: 10/13/2007 2:07:58 AM EDT
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Some one tell me why Jews have been hated for two thousand years? I can't even tell if someone is a Jew unless he tells me or he's wearing something Jew like. All I've ever seem them do is get slaughtered throughout history. What did they do? Seriously |
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Hard to say. The Jews were slaves in Sumeria/Akadia. They then moved to Egypt to escape slavery and look what happened. They have been hated for a very long time. I would assume most of the recent hatred stems from the occult vs. relgion thing. Many are probably pissed that the Jewish god established his supremecy over Earth a few thousand years ago. In the process, a lot of knowledge was suppressed, people got pissed about it, and take it out on the Jews. |
| Truthful but non-PC answer - they are God's chosen people, and hence hated by satan. Satan stirs up groups of people, even the fallen church during the inquisition, to persecute them. Hitler and Stalin were two of the most evil people to ever walk the earth, almost certainly satan-controlled, and who did they target for extermination? The Jews. Al Qaeda and OBL are extremely evil organiztions almost certainly controlled by the devil. Who do they target? The Jews. Do you see a pattern? |
Like those little beanies they wear. Still ain't answered my question. Why did Hitler hate them so bad he killed 6 million of them. What did these people do? They return to their homeland after 1900 years and now they have millions surrounding them that want them dead. What did they do? |
so does the devil dislike black people too? or homosexuals? |
The persecution of black people and homosexuals pales in comparison to what has occured to the Jews. Hitler killed 6 million and Stalin probably around 20 million. What occurred to the blacks in the south and homosexuals pales in comparison to that. The persecution of the Jews falls into a category all its own. |
Like I said, my answer is non-PC and would be rejected by the irreligious, but I believe it to be the truth. |
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A certain amount is perception..lots of groups have been hated in 2,000 years but the Jews are one group that has stuck around. Personally, I blame the Catholic church. The original Christian church in Jerusalem was Jewish, with Jesus' followers worshipping at the temple along with every other sect. Paul then moved the focus onto himself..err..gentiles and Rome and turned Christianity into a seperate religion. Those in Rome saw the Jewish contingent as a threat. As time went on, that evolved into the concept that the Jews killed Jesus because they were Jews, and therefore evil. Eventually the Catholic church because corrupt and all powerful and killed anyone who they considered a threat..err..found to be blasphemous (like saying Jesus wasn't the physical embodiment of God.) Hitler? Mostly he was just an asshole and Jews were convenient scapegoats. Many communists were Jews, and conversely, some of the best capitalists were Jews..there was already the preconceived notion/racism that Jews were evil and Hitler used that as a reason to blame them for the problems in Germany, especially after WW1. |
so, on the slope of hatred. only the worst is fueled by satan? the rest is just regular hatred? lol |
You can't really blame the Catholic Church - Stalin rejected Christianity - he was once a candidate for the priesthood - but became an athiest. Its something deeper. |
you didn't say anything about being rejected by the irreligious. you just said non-pc. lol |
The devil is behind it all, but the Jews are the object of special hatred by the devil. |
so the devil hates blacks and gays, just not as much as jews. it seems by your logic christians would be persecuted. |
See, I guess I missed that. I thought they attacked Angloish/Christian types, at the World Trade Center, the US Cole, London, US embassies, etc. I don't recall them being active in Israel at all. The Israel/Palestine problem is, in my mind, seperate from any religious argument, although that plays a role at times. Mostly its two neighbors who can't get along and they happen to be of different religions. Al Qaeda and similar groups are religious nutjobs. Now that I think about it, they sure seem to be targetting Muslims the most, in Iraq. It sure ain't Jews they're blowing up with carbombs in market places there. |
They are. They were extremely persecuted in Communist Russia and are currently being persecuted in Red China. |
well, even the devil can't be everywhere at once |
In this case yes, I think there are historic,socio economic reasons as well. But religious views obviously are a part of it too. It is strange how the Jews have been hated throughout history. Could be the devil. |
Truth at the top of page two. |
Kind of ironic/funny, since Judaism doesn't believe in the this kind of Satan. |
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I asked a friend the very same question, he went on to say that in Europe back when God and church were fashionable, It was looked down upon for christians to handle and be involved with money too excessively. Hence jews came in, and weren't hindered by thier religion or the church and stepped up as bankers and middle men. Once things started to change and money became the way to go the jews were thoroughly imbedded in the business of bankers and merchants but had no real trade skills (carpenter, blacksmith, farmer ect.). So it seemed that by opportunity they were able to get rich, and but was perceived that they hadn't earned it. And people started to resent them for it. Conversation seems a bit scattered but I was drinking at the time of hearing it. 
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Christians are objects of severe persecution in many parts of the world (Middle East, China, Southeast Asia, large portions of Africa). Don't let the lack of real persecution in America fool you. Americans Christians are blessed to have been born in a country with religious freedom, rkba, free speech, etc. The time is coming, however. hristian AV1611 out... |
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They are the chosen one and act like it! ARROGANCE I have met and worked with several Jews. A lot of them were pretty cool but some of them are the most arrogant POS I have seen. And those that were arrogant were arrogant because they felt they were better then others simply because they were Jewish. They bring it on to themselves! Its not just me being prejudice but the entire world's view. If a few people are antisemitic they are racist but when billions are antisemitic you have to wonder why. Just my .02 |
Bingo. |
Thats it! Everyone else is wrong! |
I appreciate your recognition of the authoritative nature of my pronouncements. |
Influenced, not controlled. But very good explaination. |
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I have recently been reading a book called "The Anguish of the Jews" by Flannery at the suggestion of a close friend of mine who is SO Jewish it's almost to cult-like levels. She and I often study books independently and send notes back and forth to each other. The following is an excerpt from my notes on this book. I realize without reading the book yourself, it's difficult to have context, but below are my notes from just the first ten pages:
There's lots more. Basically, I'm really beginning to think that Jews (along with their sycophants, the fundamentalist Christians) bring a lot of their "anguish" on themselves. |
You gotta be fucking kidding me right? This  is your reasoning?
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Delusions of persececution. How interesting.
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Where did I say 'delusions of persecution'? |
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A few semi-random thoughts. 1) In Christianity, Usury (the lending of money at interest) was considered to be a sin during the early and middle ages (Since 345 BC). However, Jews (since they were nor Christians) were exempt. Apparently it was a sin to Charge interest, not pay it. Since Christians could not lend money at interest, and no bank could make money without lending at interest, only Jews were bankers in early and middle ages Europe. And lets face it, no one really likes bankers when you owe them money. This is probably how the whole "Jews control all the banks" crap got started. For those of you who are Shakespearian readers, wasn't Shylock in the Merchant of Venice a Jew? 2) Jews were also considered to be heretics in the middle ages and were persecuted for that reason. Remember, our freedom of religion and religious tolerance is a very new thing. In the middle ages, you could be convicted of the crime of heresy. There was not real separation of Church and State. Don't belong to the State sanctioned church, you are a heretic. 3) As for the hatred of modern Israel, I think this goes back to the how Israel was founded. Israel (or more properly back then, Palestine) was part of the Ottoman Empire (Turkey) before and during WWI. After the war, The Ottoman Empire lost many of its "vassal" states, such as Palestine and Iraq. Palestine became a British Mandate. Their was an early Zionist movement, but the Brits were not supporters of the creation of a Jewish state. When the British pulled out of Palestine, there was an internal struggle between the Jews and the Palestinians, which the Jews prevailed. Many of the Muslims fled the country, fearing revenge and oppression. The "right of return" issue is still bogging down the peace efforts with Israel. Wiki Article 4) Jews are a convenient scapegoat. If a government needs to distract the population from real source of problems (or the inability of the government to deal with the problems), then a scapegoat is a convenient method of distraction. I'm sure we have all read 1984. |
BINGBINGBING We have a winner! And again, the reason is money ( and yes I 101% agree with that statement ) |
A very wise person once told me (and she's Jewish) that you'll drive yourself crazy, trying to make sanity out of insanity. |