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10/1/2007 11:16:23 PM EDT
This is not about getting whites whiter than white, or ring around the collar.  It's not about how do you guys wash your fluffy shirts.

The issue is liquid detergents.   I swear that you have to get some water in the washer tub to dilute the liquid crap (this is why I don't buy the stuff) before you put your clothes in.  Also, you don't put the clothes in and pour the stuff over them while it's filling up.  The reason for this is that the liquid detergent is so strong, it will ruin the color where it touches, almost like you had put undiluted bleach on it.

The junior unit in the family says I'm old, uptight, and full of it.

What do you say?
10/1/2007 11:17:49 PM EDT
[#1]

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Also, you don't put the clothes in and pour the stuff over them while it's filling up.  The reason for this is that the liquid detergent is so strong, it will ruin the color where it touches, almost like you had put undiluted bleach on it.


This is true.  I've had it happen to me.
10/1/2007 11:18:47 PM EDT
[#2]
Tell him to wash his own clothes and deal with however they come out of the wash.
10/1/2007 11:20:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Whether using liquid or powdered, add detergent to water before adding clothes.  Liquid can cause the problems you described more than the powdered.  I've noticed the powdered doesn't always rinse out completely if added on top the clothes.  Powdered is cheaper cheaper and isn't as big of problem if spilled.
10/1/2007 11:22:03 PM EDT
[#4]
That is what they taught us in Home Ec.
10/1/2007 11:23:38 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Also, you don't put the clothes in and pour the stuff over them while it's filling up.  The reason for this is that the liquid detergent is so strong, it will ruin the color where it touches, almost like you had put undiluted bleach on it.


This is true.  I've had it happen to me.

Me to and it sucks.
10/1/2007 11:31:49 PM EDT
[#6]
My washer has a place to pour in the detergent and softener (and bleach) and it adds it automatically during the appropriate part of the cycle.

10/1/2007 11:33:37 PM EDT
[#7]
I always pour the detergent directly onto the clothes.  I've never had problems with the colors.
10/1/2007 11:36:38 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Also, you don't put the clothes in and pour the stuff over them while it's filling up.  The reason for this is that the liquid detergent is so strong, it will ruin the color where it touches, almost like you had put undiluted bleach on it.


This is true.  I've had it happen to me.

Me to and it sucks.


You suck!
10/1/2007 11:42:48 PM EDT
[#9]
Well, see, most seem to agree.   I'm pretty sure I ruined the collar on my favorite knit shirt that way when I was in a hurry, and couldn't find the powdered stuff -- it hadn't filled up.

Since then I start it, put in the sudsy stuff, and let it run and inch or two before adding the clothes.


By the way, the hand-cleaner trick for removing grease spots works pretty good.  I made my work jacket look a lot better and the one that doubles for hunting, too.

Thanks, everyone.
10/1/2007 11:47:02 PM EDT
[#10]
I just toss in my clothes then pour the detergent on top and turn the machine on. I've never had any problems. I can see your argument though. Some detergents might be too strong and leave a stain or something. Like bleach will for sure.
10/1/2007 11:55:35 PM EDT
[#11]
Yeah, well since he started doing his own laundry several years back, he's got several items that are all streaked & stuff.   I gave him half the towels when he moved out and some that were identical in color are now way different shades.

Same thing with other stuff.   Some shorts that WERE black are now sorta maroon.  

BTW, in return for using his garage to fix my motorcycle, I did his wash while he was out of town on business.   Who the hell needs over 65 T-Shirts?  Only about a dozen weren 't black.

What the hell, he's gotta live his own life.
10/1/2007 11:58:44 PM EDT
[#12]
I just pour it in.

Never a problem.

You guys must be using some industrial shit to have these issues.
10/2/2007 12:00:40 AM EDT
[#13]
WTF is a "fluffy shirt"?

I just pour it in...and I don't even separate the darks from the whites
10/2/2007 12:02:49 AM EDT
[#14]
I mix bleach and/or liquid detergent in with the water before I throw my clothes in.
10/2/2007 1:40:12 AM EDT
[#15]
I always throw in the clothes, pour on the detergent, then turn the washer on. Never had a problem.
10/2/2007 1:54:07 AM EDT
[#16]

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I always throw in the clothes, pour on the detergent, then turn the washer on. Never had a problem.


I do the same, although my fiancee and I had the same agrument.

I don't care how she does the clothes, as long as she does them
10/2/2007 2:42:47 AM EDT
[#17]

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WTF is a "fluffy shirt"?

I just pour it in...and I don't even separate the darks from the whites


It's from an old Seinfeld episode. I should have said "puffy" The puffy shirt
10/2/2007 3:15:16 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
This is not about getting whites whiter than white, or ring around the collar.  It's not about how do you guys wash your fluffy shirts.

The issue is liquid detergents.   I swear that you have to get some water in the washer tub to dilute the liquid crap (this is why I don't buy the stuff) before you put your clothes in.  Also, you don't put the clothes in and pour the stuff over them while it's filling up.  The reason for this is that the liquid detergent is so strong, it will ruin the color where it touches, almost like you had put undiluted bleach on it.

The junior unit in the family says I'm old, uptight, and full of it.

What do you say?


You are partially correct.  It isn't a bleaching effect but an over-dosing of "optical brightness enhancers".  These are dyes put into some detergents that are fluorscent and make whites "whiter".  Put them on other colors and the fabric looks faded.

Yes, you have to dilute the "dye" in water, otherwise it splotches.

There are more than just liquid detergents that use these.  Detergetns marked "free" may or may not have them too...some are nearly invisible.  
10/2/2007 3:16:27 AM EDT
[#19]
I always let the washer fill up about 2-3" with water before adding the detergent, and then put stuff like socks & undershirts in the washer first so the good clothes do not touch the water until the detergent is diluted.

Kharn