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9/13/2007 9:42:43 PM EDT
You guys really believe in this stuff?  I have been around to a lot of places and seen some crazy stuff but nothing that isnt out of the realm of reality and explaination.  Skinwalkers, Chpacabra, etc..  Come on..  Someone would have concrete proof by now or at least killed one..
9/13/2007 10:29:23 PM EDT
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You guys really believe in this stuff?  I have been around to a lot of places and seen some crazy stuff but nothing that isnt out of the realm of reality and explaination.  Skinwalkers, Chpacabra, etc..  Come on..  Someone would have concrete proof by now or at least killed one..


I thought the same thing until I saw my chupacabra. If you really look at it though these things have been around a long time and haven't been seen by many. Sasquatch, Nessy, etc. Just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they aren't there. Look at that big ass fish that we found off the coast of Madagascar. We has fossil records of it from millions of years ago. We thought it was extinct. We found live ones off of Madagascar and they hadn't changed in millions of years. And any time someone brings evidence out in the open it's always shot down by "experts" and lauded as foolery, like you are now. And when you see one, first you don't always have a camera or gun, second you are in total disbelief because what you are seeing "isn't supposed to exist". So don't always put everything off as nonsense. Also with things like Skinwalkers and such you are then dealing with the supernatural and those types of things are on a whole different level. There are A LOT of people who see these things. Are you saying that THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of people are wrong?
9/13/2007 10:32:27 PM EDT
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I have seen stuff, just dont talk about it because no one believes anyone or calls them nuts.
9/13/2007 10:32:32 PM EDT
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Sorry? Chupacabra? Skinwalkers? What are you lot talking about?
9/13/2007 10:34:26 PM EDT
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I've seen some really strange stuff but nothing that couldn't be explained away with logic(doesn't mean it IS that explanation though..)
9/13/2007 10:36:01 PM EDT
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Sorry? Chupacabra? Skinwalkers? What are you lot talking about?


Here, start from page one and keep going.
ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=615580
9/13/2007 10:36:33 PM EDT
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Im not buying it.  Fish from prehistory I can understand since we dont really have any clue what is in the depths of the oceans but monsters and stuff is hard to swallow..
9/13/2007 10:43:33 PM EDT
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I find the whole "because we haven't seen it, means it doesn't exist" argument VERY ignorant and arrogant. To say that we have seen everything this world has to offer, on land or not, is just stupid thinking. They find new species of animals, insects, birds, etc every year. They have found remains of miniature humans in Asia, the Rocky Mountains, and in South America in caves recently. I'm also very sorry that you have no imagination and that your mind is so closed. Must be very boring.
9/13/2007 10:46:44 PM EDT
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I find the whole "because we haven't seen it, means it doesn't exist" argument VERY ignorant and arrogant. To say that we have seen everything this world has to offer, on land or not, is just stupid thinking. They find new species of animals, insects, birds, etc every year. They have found remains of miniature humans in Asia, the Rocky Mountains, and in South America in caves recently. I'm also very sorry that you have no imagination and that your mind is so closed. Must be very boring.


On the contrary, I have a vivid imagination but I do not believe in monsters.
9/13/2007 10:48:49 PM EDT
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The reason no one has killed one and dragged the body out for proof is because the stuff isn't real in a physical sense.

These things exist, they're just not part of our world.  This also explains why you don't hear about people being attacked by chupacabra, or bigfoot, or the jersey devil, or any other mystical creature.

They're not part of our physical world, they just pay us a visit (probably by accident) every now and then.
9/13/2007 10:49:14 PM EDT
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On the contrary, I have a vivid imagination but I do not believe in monsters.


Why do you have to say they are monsters? If we were to discover Bigfoot or Yeti or Chupacabra tomorrow they would just be animals, like anything else. Skinwalkers are different because then you are stepping into the realm of the supernatural and those types of things are harder to explain.
9/13/2007 10:50:32 PM EDT
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The reason no one has killed one and dragged the body out for proof is because the stuff isn't real in a physical sense.

The stuff is very real, it's just not part of our world.  This also explains why you don't hear about people being attacked by chupacabra, or bigfoot, or the jersey devil, or any other mystical creature.

They're not part of our physical world, they just pay us a visit (probably by accident) every now and then.


That's another way of looking at it.
9/13/2007 10:50:54 PM EDT
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The reason no one has killed one and dragged the body out for proof is because the stuff isn't real in a physical sense.

These things exist, they're just not part of our world.  This also explains why you don't hear about people being attacked by chupacabra, or bigfoot, or the jersey devil, or any other mystical creature.

They're not part of our physical world, they just pay us a visit (probably by accident) every now and then.


... I cant take this conversation seriously.  sorry.
9/13/2007 10:52:54 PM EDT
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On the contrary, I have a vivid imagination but I do not believe in monsters.


Why do you have to say they are monsters? If we were to discover Bigfoot or Yeti or Chupacabra tomorrow they would just be animals, like anything else. Skinwalkers are different because then you are stepping into the realm of the supernatural and those types of thins are harder to explain.


Bigfoot, Yeti, Chupacabra, skinwalkers, fairies, goblins, ghosts, certain UFO's, werewolves, and other strange unworldly creatures are all related.

They do not exist physically, which is why they can't be killed.

Somewhere, the wires get crossed and we get a glimpse at something that's around us at all times.  It's strictly metaphysical.
9/13/2007 10:52:59 PM EDT
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... I cant take this conversation seriously.  sorry.


If you can't take everyone  else's views on the matter seriously then why start a discussion?
Seems kind of counterintuitive to me.
9/13/2007 10:54:39 PM EDT
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The reason no one has killed one and dragged the body out for proof is because the stuff isn't real in a physical sense.

These things exist, they're just not part of our world.  This also explains why you don't hear about people being attacked by chupacabra, or bigfoot, or the jersey devil, or any other mystical creature.

They're not part of our physical world, they just pay us a visit (probably by accident) every now and then.


... I cant take this conversation seriously.  sorry.


Read a book about it, and it makes a lot more sense than I'm able to put into words.

It explains a lot.

The theory explains why human beings have been seeing these things for tens of thousands of years.

Strange things DO happen that defy logic.  They happen regularly.  To deny it is very narrow minded.
9/13/2007 11:01:18 PM EDT
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On the contrary, I have a vivid imagination but I do not believe in monsters.


Why do you have to say they are monsters? If we were to discover Bigfoot or Yeti or Chupacabra tomorrow they would just be animals, like anything else. Skinwalkers are different because then you are stepping into the realm of the supernatural and those types of thins are harder to explain.


Bigfoot, Yeti, Chupacabra, skinwalkers, fairies, goblins, ghosts, certain UFO's, werewolves, and other strange unworldly creatures are all related.

They do not exist physically, which is why they can't be killed.

Somewhere, the wires get crossed and we get a glimpse at something that's around us at all times.  It's strictly metaphysical.


I will agree with your explanation with those,  however I feel the Cryptozoological like Sasquatch and Chupacabra are only elusive animals and the reason they haven't been killed yet is because of either scared eye-witnesses or being unprepared for the encounter. And there are a few pictures of what could be dead chupacabra out there AND there is the Yeti scalp that the Tibetan monks have.
9/13/2007 11:02:35 PM EDT
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... I cant take this conversation seriously.  sorry.


If you can't take everyone  else's views on the matter seriously then why start a discussion?
Seems kind of counterintuitive to me.


I asked a question.  
I will concede that, yes, there are new species found every day but usually of the insect world  and usually in the rain forests of S.A.  Sometimes we find stuff from the depths of the ocean.  These are places that we have not fully explored and insects are the largest cross section of species on the planet so it isnt a surprise that we find new ones often in unexplored and remote places.  As for oceans, thats a no brainer.  We cant just take a 35 man expedition out to sea and stroll around the ocean floor for weeks on end in the sunshine and all that..  But really, when was the last large, or even moderate sized land animal discovered.  As for demons, etc.  Other physical places..  I believe in god and the devil.  I dont think Old Scratch has his minions walking around suburbia..  And if he did, wouldnt it be a little more mainstream.  I mean he is the devil. Youd think he'd have a web site.  I would if I were him..


And for the Jersey Devil believers...  i have one thing to say..  Go Flyers..
9/13/2007 11:04:38 PM EDT
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On the contrary, I have a vivid imagination but I do not believe in monsters.


Why do you have to say they are monsters? If we were to discover Bigfoot or Yeti or Chupacabra tomorrow they would just be animals, like anything else. Skinwalkers are different because then you are stepping into the realm of the supernatural and those types of thins are harder to explain.


Bigfoot, Yeti, Chupacabra, skinwalkers, fairies, goblins, ghosts, certain UFO's, werewolves, and other strange unworldly creatures are all related.

They do not exist physically, which is why they can't be killed.

Somewhere, the wires get crossed and we get a glimpse at something that's around us at all times.  It's strictly metaphysical.


I will agree with your explanation with those,  however I feel the Cryptozoological like Sasquatch and Chupacabra are only elusive animals and the reason they haven't been killed yet is because of either scared eye-witnesses or being unprepared for the encounter. And there are a few pictures of what could be dead chupacabra out there AND there is the Yeti scalp that the Tibetan monks have.


We're all entitled to our opinions.

People have been seeing Bigfoot for far too long.  If it was a real animal, it's numbers would have grown to levels that would make it hard to miss... i.e. fossil record or some other physical evidence.  

Chupacabra is a recent name for a creature that's also been seen for a very long time.  It's a modern day gremlin.
9/13/2007 11:08:22 PM EDT
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Think of it like this..  Cats are the best animals in the world when it comes to hiding.  wild cats can disappear like the wind.  hell, my house cat can disappear here at home and it is damned hard to find him but we find them all the time, they leave physical evidence of their existance.  they leave tracks, scat, dead carcasses they feed on, they die and we find their bodies, we find their young, they get killed on the highways..   See where im going here..
9/13/2007 11:08:40 PM EDT
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... I cant take this conversation seriously.  sorry.


If you can't take everyone  else's views on the matter seriously then why start a discussion?
Seems kind of counterintuitive to me.


I asked a question.  
I will concede that, yes, there are new species found every day but usually of the insect world  and usually in the rain forests of S.A.  Sometimes we find stuff from the depths of the ocean.  These are places that we have not fully explored and insects are the largest cross section of species on the planet so it isnt a surprise that we find new ones often in unexplored and remote places.  As for oceans, thats a no brainer.  We cant just take a 35 man expedition out to sea and stroll around the ocean floor for weeks on end in the sunshine and all that..  But really, when was the last large, or even moderate sized land animal discovered.  As for demons, etc.  Other physical places..  I believe in god and the devil.  I dont think Old Scratch has his minions walking around suburbia..  And if he did, wouldnt it be a little more mainstream.  I mean he is the devil. Youd think he'd have a web site.  I would if I were him..


And for the Jersey Devil believers...  i have one thing to say..  Go Flyers..


There are places in North America just as vast and untouched as the jungles of South America and Africa. Especially in Canada. And if you were the Devil why would you want everyone to know you exist? Then people know "Oh, hey, Beelzebub! He's real! We better all be good boys and girls so we don't get taken by him." He is more subtle and discrete than that. The greatest success that Lucifer ever had was taking out most of his overt influence over situations in the Bible. Aside from a few things, like the Garden of Eden and tempting Christ, you really don't hear alot about him.
9/13/2007 11:09:45 PM EDT
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And if you were the Devil why would you want everyone to know you exist? Then people know "Oh, hey, Beelzebub! He's real! We better all be good boys and girls so we don't get taken by him." He is more subtle and discrete than that. The greatest success that Lucifer ever had was taking out most of his overt influence over situations in the Bible. Aside from a few things, like the Garden of Eden and tempting Christ, you really don't hear alot about him.


Well he dont scare me none anyway..
9/13/2007 11:11:04 PM EDT
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El Chupacabra?!

Be afraid, very afraid.






9/13/2007 11:12:21 PM EDT
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Think of it like this..  Cats are the best animals in the world when it comes to hiding.  wild cats can disappear like the wind.  hell, my house cat can disappear here at home and it is damned hard to find him but we find them all the time, they leave physical evidence of their existance.  they leave tracks, scat, dead carcasses they feed on, they die and we find their bodies, we find their young, they get killed on the highways..   See where im going here..


I do, but one animal is not the same as another. They all do things differently. And perhaps the numbers are different from something Cryptozoological and other animals. Like I said, I used to think very much as you do until weird things happened to me and I had a close encounter of my own. Not everyone is going to see these things. Hell, I've been in the woods many times in my life and I've only seen my first wild bear just this summer.
9/13/2007 11:12:58 PM EDT
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Ha.... My bestfriend started yelling "chupacabra!" at a bunch of Mexicans at this beach while we were fishing.....

Some laughed, some got pissy.... I had no idea what he was talking about until he told me.
9/13/2007 11:13:13 PM EDT
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El Chupacabra?!

Be afraid, very afraid.









Hehe, and I was too! Nearly pissed my self! Only, I was too scared to piss!
9/13/2007 11:13:54 PM EDT
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Ha.... My bestfriend started yelling "chupacabra!" at a bunch of Mexicans at this beach while we were fishing.....

Some laughed, some got pissy.... I had no idea what he was talking about until he told me.


Thats funny!
9/13/2007 11:23:30 PM EDT
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Somewhere, the wires get crossed and we get a glimpse at something that's around us at all times.  It's strictly metaphysical.


Well there is stream theory , and Physicists that theories that there or many dimensions. Where you could exist in another form , one as a astronaut or a bank robber. Maybe a infinite number? In those parallel realities , who is to say there are not animals or beings that exist there that do not exist here? Do these ''streams'' of time and space intersect , or do they fluctuate time to time where they intertwine allowing us both them and us to catch a glimpse of each other?

Who knows.. lol

Wow it's late...
9/13/2007 11:25:08 PM EDT
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Somewhere, the wires get crossed and we get a glimpse at something that's around us at all times.  It's strictly metaphysical.


Well there is stream theory , and Physicists that theories that there or many dimensions. Where you could exist in another form , one as a astronaut or a bank robber. Maybe a infinite number? In those parallel realities , who is to say there are not animals or beings that exist there that do not exist here? Do these ''streams'' of time and space intersect , or do they fluctuate time to time where they intertwine allowing us both them and us to catch a glimpse of each other?

Who knows.. lol

Wow it's late...


Yeah, I get that way when I have spicy foods.
9/13/2007 11:26:44 PM EDT
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Somewhere, the wires get crossed and we get a glimpse at something that's around us at all times.  It's strictly metaphysical.


Well there is stream theory , and Physicists that theories that there or many dimensions. Where you could exist in another form , one as a astronaut or a bank robber. Maybe a infinite number? In those parallel realities , who is to say there are not animals or beings that exist there that do not exist here? Do these ''streams'' of time and space intersect , or do they fluctuate time to time where they intertwine allowing us both them and us to catch a glimpse of each other?

Who knows.. lol

Wow it's late...


Yeah, I get that way when I have spicy foods.


I know the feeling , I had kimchi today...
9/13/2007 11:30:15 PM EDT
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Somewhere, the wires get crossed and we get a glimpse at something that's around us at all times.  It's strictly metaphysical.


Well there is stream theory , and Physicists that theories that there or many dimensions. Where you could exist in another form , one as a astronaut or a bank robber. Maybe a infinite number? In those parallel realities , who is to say there are not animals or beings that exist there that do not exist here? Do these ''streams'' of time and space intersect , or do they fluctuate time to time where they intertwine allowing us both them and us to catch a glimpse of each other?

Who knows.. lol

Wow it's late...


Yeah, I get that way when I have spicy foods.


I know the feeling , I had kimchi today...


My firearms instructor always used the word kimchi as an alternate to shit.
9/13/2007 11:46:59 PM EDT
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I love kimchi..
9/14/2007 12:03:06 AM EDT
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Chupacabra??  Just fantasy.
9/14/2007 12:14:31 AM EDT
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Chupacabra??  Just fantasy.


I don't give a shit what you call it, I don't wanna see it or bigfeet.
9/14/2007 12:16:19 AM EDT
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Chupacabra??  Just fantasy.


I don't give a shit what you call it, I don't wanna see it or bigfeet.


You wanna see MY "big foot"?
9/14/2007 12:39:34 AM EDT
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Don't laugh, my friend!

Several dues-paying members of this site are chupacabras.  

  [theme from x-files]
9/14/2007 12:43:26 AM EDT
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You guys really believe in this stuff?  I have been around to a lot of places and seen some crazy stuff but nothing that isnt out of the realm of reality and explaination.  Skinwalkers, Chpacabra, etc..  Come on..  Someone would have concrete proof by now or at least killed one..


You'd better hope none of the chupacabra members catch this thread on the active topics.
9/14/2007 12:50:24 AM EDT
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Chupacabra-bashing is a hate crime!

9/14/2007 12:53:39 AM EDT
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And for the Jersey Devil believers...  i have one thing to say..  Go Flyers..


The Jersey Devil was probably someone's escaped pet bat.





9/14/2007 2:25:57 AM EDT
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And for the Jersey Devil believers...  i have one thing to say..  Go Flyers..


The Jersey Devil was probably someone's escaped pet bat.

i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc100/theanticommunist/JerseyDevil.jpg

i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc100/theanticommunist/Album%203/Hypsignathusmonstrosus.jpg





9/14/2007 2:35:55 AM EDT
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And for the Jersey Devil believers...  i have one thing to say..  Go Flyers..


The Jersey Devil was probably someone's escaped pet bat.

i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc100/theanticommunist/JerseyDevil.jpg

i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc100/theanticommunist/Album%203/Hypsignathusmonstrosus.jpg







That is Hypsignathus Monstrosus, also known as the hammer-headed fruit bat.

Found in Africa, they can have a wingspan of over 3'.

Ugly bastards, aren't they?