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9/13/2007 6:47:53 AM EDT
Anybody ever seen this one before? I have a page on the net. In IE, the page is rendered properly and when you do View Source, it shows the HTML exactly as written.

When you view the same page in Firefox, it inserts all sorts of font color tags and other things that weren't in the original HTML, making the page unreadable. It completely rewrote the HTML for the page.

Anybody ever seen that? Why would Firefox do something that stupid?
9/13/2007 6:49:03 AM EDT
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Never seen that before. I have been using Firefox for years.
9/13/2007 6:58:05 AM EDT
[#2]
dunno
 
9/13/2007 6:59:00 AM EDT
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9/13/2007 7:23:19 AM EDT
[#4]
weird. Maybe its in quirks mode or some other mode where it inserts these tags to make the page look a certain way.

Does it have the <!Doctype> tag at the head?
9/13/2007 7:44:11 AM EDT
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ARFCOM doesn't work for me in Firefox - I suspect it's because all of the certain scripts that are running and Firefox won't accept (ActiveX for example). And because I run in widescreen resolution?

But yeah, it's really weird - images wont' show up, or they're be replaced by other images. Some sort of strange rendering problem
9/13/2007 7:52:21 AM EDT
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ARFCOM doesn't work for me in Firefox - I suspect it's because all of the certain scripts that are running and Firefox won't accept (ActiveX for example). And because I run in widescreen resolution?

But yeah, it's really weird - images wont' show up, or they're be replaced by other images. Some sort of strange rendering problem




Been using it here for years.

In my web dev experience IE is usually the problem.
9/13/2007 8:02:09 AM EDT
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Anybody ever seen this one before? I have a page on the net. In IE, the page is rendered properly and when you do View Source, it shows the HTML exactly as written.

When you view the same page in Firefox, it inserts all sorts of font color tags and other things that weren't in the original HTML, making the page unreadable. It completely rewrote the HTML for the page.

Anybody ever seen that? Why would Firefox do something that stupid?


What's the URL?


List of signers

As just one problem, in IE the lettering in the list is black. In FF, it is changed to white.

It is an ASP.NET generated page. If you bring it up in both and do view source, the HTML shown by IE is the correct HTML for that page. View the source in FF and it is way different. All kinds of new stuff added that wasn't there in the original.


9/13/2007 9:05:02 AM EDT
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If I'm not mistaken (I'm not a professional .NET programmer), the HTML generated by ASP.NET web forms is dynamically generated depending on browser type.

At any rate, Firefox doesn't rewrite HTML. It faithfully marks up the HTML it is given.

It would help to actually look at your project.


Parts are generated and parts are not. However, the HTML is still the same from either when it comes off the server.

No, it clearly doesn't display it as given. Not even close.
9/13/2007 9:23:18 AM EDT
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Do an experiment.  Type about:config in the address bar of Firefox.  The user preference configuration page for Firefox will open.  Right-click in the page and select New->String.  Enter general.useragent.override as the preference name and Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0b; Windows NT 6.0) as the string value.  You have now configured Firefox to tell the server that it is actually IE 7.  Refresh that website and you will see that the HTML is now the same.

To restore Firefox to normal operation, right-click the general.useragent.override preference and select Reset.



EXCELLENT post, and it proves what I said earlier.
9/13/2007 9:52:57 AM EDT
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EXCELLENT post, and it proves what I said earlier.

Thanks Subnet.  That's an honor coming from you.



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I like Firefox because I can set it to automatically clear out everything when I exit the program. Perhaps that's avaible in IE7 too and I just don't know it yet.

You do that too, huh?  
There may be a way to do it with IE7, but I've never looked into it since I don't normally use IE.



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User Agent Switcher
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59

IE Tab
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419

Those are handy add-ons, although in my personal experience IE-specific pages are rare enough that when I do encounter one I usually decide I wasn't that interested after all or, in the very rare cases, I simply fire up IE separately and manually copy and paste the URL.  Something about introducing IE into Firefox gives me the willies.

9/13/2007 9:58:31 AM EDT
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Anybody ever seen this one before? I have a page on the net. In IE, the page is rendered properly and when you do View Source, it shows the HTML exactly as written.

When you view the same page in Firefox, it inserts all sorts of font color tags and other things that weren't in the original HTML, making the page unreadable. It completely rewrote the HTML for the page.

Anybody ever seen that? Why would Firefox do something that stupid?


What's the URL?


List of signers

As just one problem, in IE the lettering in the list is black. In FF, it is changed to white.

It is an ASP.NET generated page. If you bring it up in both and do view source, the HTML shown by IE is the correct HTML for that page. View the source in FF and it is way different. All kinds of new stuff added that wasn't there in the original.



I think I smell a big fat Microsoft rat.

ETA: not necessarily a deliberate fuckover by Microsoft (although they've done that in the past), but probably a configuration screwup that generates crap for Firefox.

BTW, I'm using Mozilla, and am seeing the white text.
9/13/2007 12:57:04 PM EDT
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Looks like it was  specifically made to display differently on non Microsoft browsers.

The page was constructed in Microsoft's Virtual Studio using  Virtual Basic  with a schema from schemas . microsoft . com / intellisense / ie5.

If you look at the page source it is a browser specific page with different displays depending on which browser opens it.  The HTML is the same from page to page.  There are java tags which specifically displaying the lettering as white in the table.



Just another example of Microsoft not wanting people to use anything but their products.





9/13/2007 1:04:52 PM EDT
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Doesn't display right in Safari either. Screw Microsoft.