Posted: 7/24/2007 2:49:01 PM EDT
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Next version of Windows: Call it 7 Microsoft is planning to ship its next major version of Windows--known internally as version "7"--within roughly three years. The company discussed Windows 7 on Thursday at a conference for its field sales force in Orlando, Fla., according to sources close to the company. While the company provided few details, Windows 7, the next client version of the operating system, will be among the steps taken by Microsoft to establish a more predictable release schedule, according to sources. The company plans a more "iterative" process of information disclosure to business customers and partners, sources said. Windows Vista, the oft-delayed most recent release of Windows, shipped to businesses in November and to consumers in January after more than five years of development. Vista's gestation period was marked by shifting product details as internal priorities changed and problems arose with development. Like Vista, Windows 7 will ship in consumer and business versions, and in 32-bit and 64-bit versions. The company also confirmed that it is considering a subscription model to complement Windows, but did not provide specifics or a time frame. Now on News.com Road Trip 2007: Grand view at Grand Canyon YouTube video debate actually worked Apple investors await iPhone numbers Extra: Antique engines inspire nano chip Next up on Microsoft's agenda is Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista, which is expected before year's end. The discussion of Windows' future isn't surprising, given that Microsoft has been criticized by business customers for delays related to Vista. Many business customers pay for Microsoft's software under a license agreement called Software Assurance. Windows 7 was previously known by the code name Vienna. A Microsoft representative confirmed that Windows 7 is the internal code name for the next client release of Windows. The details were released "as part of our ongoing outreach to enterprise customers and partners, Microsoft has begun sharing plans for how they will continue to deliver value to businesses in the future…Software Assurance customers in particular," a representative said in a statement via e-mail. "Microsoft is scoping Windows 7 development to a three-year time frame, and then the specific release date will ultimately be determined by meeting the quality bar," according to the representative. |
| I have a copy of Vista that's been sitting on top of my computer for six months. I have 4GB of RAM in there to run it. But I'll be damned if I'm going to install it any time soon. I'm letting my PC Support guy work through all the bugs on it and be the test case. |
I’ve been a Microsoft guy since DOS and, like you, I’m just getting tired of Microsoft’s bullshit. I just built a computer and went with XP but if Microsoft doesn’t get their crap together I’ll just use Linux next time. |
At this point there ain't much wrong with Vista but then there never has been, drivers have been big the hitch. Drivers are starting to catch up, Vista is very stable with good drivers. Vista is well ahead of where XP was at the same point in its release. Most people don't upgrade a OS until they get a new computer, so as with XP the migration for most users to Vista will take 2-3 years. ETA: I have setup or ordered for people dozens of computers with Vista I am getting NO calls on those computers with virus or spyware issues, I am getting virtually no calls on any issues for the people using Vista… some of these people could break a steel ball bearing but they ain’t breaking Vista. There is no doubt in my mind that with correct drivers Vista is rock solid stable and very secure. At this point my biggest concern is how much money will Vista cost me in lost service calls. |
How much mem will XP see ?? Something like 2.3 - 2.5 gigs I think. I'm hogging 500 megs over to my vido card as XO can't use the entire 4 gigs. |
Well...they have to keep up with the market. People see iPods and Mac OS X and go 'ooh, ahh' and they want stuff that looks modern with cool GUI's. I haven't used Vista yet (probably will eventually to get DX10 support), but IMHO, Windows is generally one of the best GUI-based operating systems there is. XP (properly patched and updated) is a fine operating system for most people's uses. Yes, it's definately no UNIX or anything, but on the other hand, it's a LOT easier to learn for the common person who just wants to check their email and surf the web. 
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I don't liek Ms too much.. so I bought a Mac I am taking the Mac back. OS X is to damn laggie and too focused on the mouse for my liking. Need more keyboard short cuts, and a better file sorting, needs more software. (Even for-pay software) I don't like Windows, I don't like Linux, I don't like OS X, I don't like the IBM mainframe and I don't like the direct impingement system of the Ar-15. 
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Give it time. It took me almost two months to really get into the groove and replace the XP habits, and as soon as I did, I realized I'd never go back. |
Thank god for that. X is the worst implementation of a bad idea to ever disgrace the field of computing. If there was a real, unified, stable GUI for *nix I'd run it on my desktop in a heartbeat and write software for it as well. As it stands, I'll leave it to a far more experienced person than myself to summarize, courtesy of "The unix haters handbook"(1) "Using these toolkits is like trying to make a bookshelf out of mashed potatoes." -Jamie Zawinski (1) I love FreeBSD as a server, firewall, etc. Basically everything except a workstation, thanks to X. |
Dang, get off Microsoft's nuts already man They do some good stuff occasionally, but they're probably one of the least ethical companies there is. Their stuff is good - until you compare it to other companies (i.e. Firefox pwns IE, Linux vs Windows, iPod vs Zune, etc.) They have some of the buggiest, least secure operating systems there are. I mean, a good operating system shouldn't even need anti-virus software; it should be able to protect itself. But I guess Microsoft has to keep Windows that way or else McAfee would go out of business You certainly don't see me running Norton on my Linux systems (or even OS X for that matter)
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 I found this really hilarious video making fun of macs, mac users, and the gayness of mac advertising. It was so hilarious. When I get home I'll try to find it and post it. I'm on lunch at work right now. |
How much memory does he have in it, 1GB gave decent speed in my Macbook, I upgraded to 2GB and it is quite speedy and no real lag. Thanks to Max_Mike giving a tip on ZipZoomFly on a memory special I only spent $80 on the 2GB of memory. OS X likes 2GB to run real well, in Oct OS X Leopard will be out with many improvements to include much better optimization with Intel Processors. OS X Tiger was released for IBM PowerPC processors, Apple had not made the switch to Intel yet so OS X Tiger never got fully optimized for Intel. Apple switched about at the midway point in Tigers lifespan due to IBM being extremely slow and missing deadlines on their PowerPC processors. I wish Microsoft will pull an Apple and start the new OS from the ground up instead of building on spaghetti code. They can keep backward compatibility with the use of built-in virtual machine environments. By freeing themselves of all the messy code, their developers can rapidly make the OS a work of art but ultimately it will be Microsoft's choice. |
wrong these are all common myths. I like firefox. I use it and I use internet explorer. There are some things that firefox cannot do, especially for enterprise uses. Most malicious stuff is written to target microsoft products, because that's what everybody uses. Its like saying that atari is the best computer in the world because there are not many viruses written for. Mac/linux systems can be compromised just like any system. Why waste your time writting malicious code for a macintosh when ten people use them? Microsoft was going to integrate their own security into vista and keep the vista kernel locked down but they got bullied by governments around the world to make sure everybody had access to what they needed to know not only to provide their own security software but potentially find weaknesses. Microsoft products are better supported. When a vulnerability is found and exploited in an open source operating system, you better hope somebody provides an update within a timely manner. I could go on but I've got to get back to work. Like I said, there are pro's and con's to different OS and development approaches. But most of the anti-microsoft stuff is bs. If it weren't damn near the whole business world wouldn't be using it. Also, saying microsoft is unethical is like saying that the WHOLE government is unethical just because the ATF sucks balls. The ATF has nothing to do with the DoD. If that makes any sense. Microsoft is huge. Sometimes some douche-bag doesn't something we dont' like. Just like .gov. |
Most people have no desire to learn everything Microsoft's wondrous technology can do. They just want to open Word and IE at the same time and NOT get a goddamn error message saying "sorry, this shitbag piece of software has to restart because even after BILLIONs of dollars in profits and umpteen OSes and service packs, we still can't get it right." That's all that the vast majority of humanity is asking for. |
He has 1 GB.  It is a Mac Mini, but by lag I was not refering to slow application start up startup or maxed out CPU, but things that seemed to be designed to be slow. Example. the mouse cursor will slow down when approaching clickable things, such as check boxes.Or when I goto drag the scroll bar to traverse a list of files, it lags. and I can't sort a folder list by 1) sub folders first, files second. 2) sort sub folder alphabetically, sort files by type alphabetically. 3) sort files of same type alphabetically. Or I can't use home to goto the beginning of a text field. I have to use Apple + left arrow. I don't like using key combos to move around text fields. As I said, I'm just bitching as the lack of keyboard-ability of the Apply way.  I knew Apple would be different than Windows, but I found the Mac "less than" not "different but equal"
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The first 2 weeks on OS X there was a LOT of "What the fuck?" and "Why doesn't this do that?" comments from me. Somewhere along the line the penny dropped and now when I go back to Windows (2k Pro, just for GPS/mapping stuff) I'm like    at how <ugh> it is.
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