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6/6/2007 7:36:32 PM EDT
Hey guys, I've asked a ton of questions in the last two days, and you guys have been very helpful in helping me build my website.

Tonight, I finally was able to upload a temporary 1st page. I put two pictures on it, but they display as boxes with red "x"'s in them. How do I get the pictures to work right on there?

I'm using Word to make my pages, so I'm using the "insert picture" function there. Where do I put the picture files so they will display on the page?

Or should I use photobucket?

the website is actionsportshooter.com so you can see the problem I'm having. None of the links are even set up yet, I'm just getting started in building the page.


ETA: I plan on upgrading my hosting account as soon as I get everything set, then that stupid ad at the top of the page will be gone.
6/6/2007 7:46:34 PM EDT
[#1]
6/6/2007 7:55:58 PM EDT
[#2]

First, take Word and throw it in the garbage.   It SUCKS very badly for HTML editing.

Find yourself a simple "WYSIWYG" (what you see is what you get) page editor and use it instead.  There are TONS of free ones out there via sourceforge.net and other freeware software sites.  Most let you simply drag & drop things like pictures, bullets, bars and such onto the working window and will generate the HTML page FOR you.  Nice and easy.

Your simple page there with just a few sentences is HUGELY bloated with Word format crap and should be a FRACTION of the file size it is, in pure, cleanly coded HTML.  Word is about the worst for making webpages because of these inherent *flaws* that ARE necessary for a regular document, but wholly unneeded for HTML code and it fails to strip all that crap out to streamline the final product.  


Now, to answer your actual question, take the picture file (image002.jpg) and upload it via an FTP program or however you do now, to the folder named: "index_files" on your server.  Without the quotes, of course....   Put the picture IN that index_files folder on there and it should show up fine, if I read the source code for that current page correctly.  

It IS a mess though, and I HIGHLY recommend you get yourself a new HTML webpage creation program.  Seeing as you're so new TO this, now IS the best time to get with something better and learn it as you go.  It'll only serve you well down the road as you'll learn better and correct ways of doing things and when you get TO actually being able to hand-edit the HTML code in something like notepad for instance, what you SEE will actually make more sense, as it'll be cleaner code, without all that extra bloated crap.  

Hope that helps some  

John
6/6/2007 8:08:31 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
First, take Word and throw it in the garbage.   It SUCKS very badly for HTML editing.

Find yourself a simple "WYSIWYG" (what you see is what you get) page editor and use it instead.  There are TONS of free ones out there via sourceforge.net and other freeware software sites.  Most let you simply drag & drop things like pictures, bullets, bars and such onto the working window and will generate the HTML page FOR you.  Nice and easy.

Your simple page there with just a few sentences is HUGELY bloated with Word format crap and should be a FRACTION of the file size it is, in pure, cleanly coded HTML.  Word is about the worst for making webpages because of these inherent *flaws* that ARE necessary for a regular document, but wholly unneeded for HTML code and it fails to strip all that crap out to streamline the final product.  


Now, to answer your actual question, take the picture file (image002.jpg) and upload it via an FTP program or however you do now, to the folder named: "index_files" on your server.  Without the quotes, of course....   Put the picture IN that index_files folder on there and it should show up fine, if I read the source code for that current page correctly.  

It IS a mess though, and I HIGHLY recommend you get yourself a new HTML webpage creation program.  Seeing as you're so new TO this, now IS the best time to get with something better and learn it as you go.  It'll only serve you well down the road as you'll learn better and correct ways of doing things and when you get TO actually being able to hand-edit the HTML code in something like notepad for instance, what you SEE will actually make more sense, as it'll be cleaner code, without all that extra bloated crap.  

Hope that helps some  

John


Thanks.

Would you recommend microsoft frontpage?

Also, what free downloadable program would you recommend?
6/7/2007 12:22:37 AM EDT
[#4]

I can't say off-hand what *particular* program I'd recommend these days.  I haven't done much webpage creatin' in a good while.

Front Page is absolutely an adequate program for doing this as that's what it's designed TO do...  I'd hazard a bet also that there'll be many extremely helpful tutorials online that can learn you how to use it.

You could certainly pick a worse place to start.  


I'll see if I can find any old links I might have to some good free HTML editors for you.  There are zillions out there, but finding one YOU like and understand of course, is the challenge.


Did you get your current page to work properly, btw ?
6/7/2007 1:12:02 AM EDT
[#5]
ok, Ima toss in my .02 cents worth.

Toss all those sorry ass programs aside.
Use NOTEPAD and go here Webmonkey

When you get good at this then you can learn ColdFusion or .ASP and be done with it.


ETA:
Get rid of that ghey azz font, use Arial or Helivtica ( or whatever it is) and reduce the font size to an adult reading size.. That was my first lesson from all the web geeks when I started.
I was learning coding when Jelly Belly put the FIRST commercail website up.

Oh, and FRONTPAGE sucks as do most other cookie cutter warez. notepad will teach you MORE of what you need to learn.

Most of my sites have been re-vamped or the company folded or was bought out or I'd give you links other than the www.sendexact.com

I would sugget MS Word for the spell checker only and ctrl C to put in your tables.

good luck
6/7/2007 1:19:28 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
ok, Ima toss in my .02 cents worth.

Toss all those sorry ass programs aside.
Use NOTEPAD and go here Webmonkey

When you get good at this then you can learn ColdFusion or .ASP and be done with it.


I made my first HTML pages with Textedit, though I use Dreamweaver MX these days.  Currently I'm learning MySQL and Coldfusion MX.

I recommend you learn XHTML as opposed to HTML.  You don't need to get hardcore and do nothing but straight code into a text editor, but having a good grasp of the code will definitely help, whether you're coding by hand or using a WYSIWYG editor.
6/7/2007 1:23:48 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
ok, Ima toss in my .02 cents worth.

Toss all those sorry ass programs aside.
Use NOTEPAD and go here Webmonkey

When you get good at this then you can learn ColdFusion or .ASP and be done with it.



Agreed, but the guy is just trying to create a SIMPLE little page with some text and a few pics right now.   Something tells me he's not going to buy ColdFusion just to make a couple pages with a few pics on them.  Be realistic here...


Incidentally, some links to really good resources for ADVANCED page creation:

Learn HTML - UTexas site:

www.webpagesthatsuck.com/

Both very good resources for getting more into hand-coding your pages yourself.  The second link is FULL of great examples of poor coding and how to do it right.  VERY helpful.

There are TONS of advanced tutorial pages out there but again, this is WAY beyond what he wants to do and where he's at right now.

6/7/2007 1:33:49 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
ok, Ima toss in my .02 cents worth.

Toss all those sorry ass programs aside.
Use NOTEPAD and go here Webmonkey

When you get good at this then you can learn ColdFusion or .ASP and be done with it.


I made my first HTML pages with Textedit, though I use Dreamweaver MX these days.  Currently I'm learning MySQL and Coldfusion MX.

I recommend you learn XHTML as opposed to HTML.  You don't need to get hardcore and do nothing but straight code into a text editor, but having a good grasp of the code will definitely help, whether you're coding by hand or using a WYSIWYG editor.


You want to know a good source on this?
Google Robert Hinjosa I worked with this guy back in 1999-2001. Gives Ben Forta a run for his money. Robert was an excellent person who knew his coding, ANY coding. He he even put up with me calling him Bean-O- Josa ( hes of Mexican heritage).

Anyways, Once the OP learns the basic HTML he can then move on and make his updates simple with .asp or .cfm...... just my tidbit tossed in.
6/7/2007 1:39:01 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
ok, Ima toss in my .02 cents worth.

Toss all those sorry ass programs aside.
Use NOTEPAD and go here Webmonkey

When you get good at this then you can learn ColdFusion or .ASP and be done with it.


I made my first HTML pages with Textedit, though I use Dreamweaver MX these days.  Currently I'm learning MySQL and Coldfusion MX.

I recommend you learn XHTML as opposed to HTML.  You don't need to get hardcore and do nothing but straight code into a text editor, but having a good grasp of the code will definitely help, whether you're coding by hand or using a WYSIWYG editor.


You want to know a good source on this?
Google Robert Hinjosa I worked with this guy back in 1999-2001. Gives Ben Forta a run for his money. Robert was an excellent person who knew his coding, ANY coding. He he even put up with me calling him Bean-O- Josa ( hes of Mexican heritage).

Anyways, Once the OP learns the basic HTML he can then move on and make his updates simple with .asp or .cfm...... just my tidbit tossed in.


Thanks.  I've been reading one of Forta's books, but I've found it to be frustratingly slow.  Lately I've just been reading proper usage and such for each tag in CFML off Adobe's website.
6/7/2007 1:53:50 AM EDT
[#10]
Fusebox.com

.cfm pages are much more simple than .asp or .php.

the only thing I ever had an issue with was custom tags and non related stored procedures in SQL. learn SQL alongside .cfm and your life will be grand.

In '89 I received my first degree in Arch. Drafting and design. I realized after my first summer on an intern, const. contractors suck, so I went truckin'.

in 1998 I received my second degree in CIS with a minor in Bis. Admin. I realized managers who know zip about web hackers suck worse. Layoffs every 6 mos. sucked worse and got really tired of bouncing from TX to VA to NC to FL. back to NC in 16 months.

I make just as much truckin'. I dont have to deal with the same assholes every day, now just different ones

ANYways, OP, were her for ya
6/7/2007 6:16:04 PM EDT
[#11]
Thanks guys.

I've asked about 5-6 questions about this in the last two days; and you guys have brought me to this point. When I get more time, I'll build another page.

Trust me, just getting something to upload was challenge for me. Not computer-techy at all.
6/7/2007 6:38:47 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Thanks guys.

I've asked about 5-6 questions about this in the last two days; and you guys have brought me to this point. When I get more time, I'll build another page.

Trust me, just getting something to upload was challenge for me. Not computer-techy at all.


Why dont you avoid writing your own HTML pages altogether and use a content managment system instead?

You can test drive every major (open source) CMS at OpenSourceCMS.com.

You'll get a better looking site online faster than doing it yourself (with your skill level).

regarding tools:
I use "Notepad++" for editing on windows machines and PSPad is pretty good too.

ETA: MS Word and Frontpage are teh suk.
6/7/2007 6:54:23 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Thanks guys.

I've asked about 5-6 questions about this in the last two days; and you guys have brought me to this point. When I get more time, I'll build another page.

Trust me, just getting something to upload was challenge for me. Not computer-techy at all.


Why dont you avoid writing your own HTML pages altogether and use a content managment system instead?

You can test drive every major (open source) CMS at OpenSourceCMS.com.

You'll get a better looking site online faster than doing it yourself (with your skill level).

regarding tools:
I use "Notepad++" for editing on windows machines and PSPad is pretty good too.

ETA: MS Word and Frontpage are teh suk.


CMSes can be really helpful.  I use CuteNews CMS for doing news updates to my site; it allows me and each of my affiliated artists to login and write their own updates that will be posted to their own sections and the main page.  It's a good, small, free program that's very easy to install and embed.  Other CMSes can be your entire site, pretty much.