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10/4/2001 6:28:30 PM EDT
There was an ad on the for sale board a while back asking to trade a pre-ban AR for a Beretta.  I will cross post this to the Ad board.  This is the e-mail I just got from the individual:

"greetings,
sorry i took so long to return the emails, but i havent had easy access
to a computer lately.

yes this offer is for real, but there is a catch.

[b]i want this transaction to be under the counter..[/b]

the ar is in fully functional condition with some marks from use.
i am not the origional owner so i cant tell you how many rounds through
this h-bar rifle, but the bore appears in excellent condition.

i have replaced the origional fore control group with a dpms set
because the rifle was doubbleing up, the problem was fixed.

i would like a 92 - f with 2+ hi caps, would like ambi safety and slide
release.

i have had many offers, and will concider each in turn.

no, it is not illegal to send pre ban high caps to p.r.n.y.

this pistol would be sealed up in a vapor proof case and hidden away
from prying eyes for a rainy day (hopefully never to be used)


Bold Mine

I don't know if this individual is ignorant of the law, was looking for an in-state (I am not sure on NY laws) transaction, or is an ATF Sting.  Be warned.

AFARR
10/4/2001 6:39:10 PM EDT
[#1]
Thanks for the warning.  He's either fishing or reeaaaal stupid for offering this in print to people, and on the first reply.


10/4/2001 7:02:59 PM EDT
[#2]
Probably from anti-gun zealot Sen Dick Durban
10/4/2001 7:07:23 PM EDT
[#3]
See my reply at the Guns For Sale forum!
10/4/2001 7:11:41 PM EDT
[#4]
I would report this one to the NYSP.  This guy is blatently asking people to commit what he knows, and is telling you, is a criminal offense in his location.  This is probably not a sting.  This guy is probably that stupid and should be removed to a safe location by the local authorities.
10/4/2001 7:14:38 PM EDT
[#5]
I would second that.

No use giving the anti-gunners more crap to use against us.  Besides that, if they get away with this then they will come along and ban internet trading and selling sites, or tax them heavily or whatever. Turn it over.

Ben
10/4/2001 7:15:31 PM EDT
[#6]
In today's LEGAL world everyone except the guilty are liable.

Ben
10/4/2001 7:52:58 PM EDT
[#7]
Seems like a ting to me. Or maybe just some kid trying to trade his dads AR or something.
10/4/2001 7:54:18 PM EDT
[#8]
Yeah, I would be thinking red flags too.  

Some states allow for transactions of firearms without paperwork, other states have their own laws.  And interstate you'd need to go through an FFL.

To be legal that is.

To be illegal, then you're pretty much on your own and even small LEO departments have an officer who works on the internet/technical crimes division.
10/4/2001 8:03:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:



[b]i want this transaction to be under the counter..[/b]
AFARR
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Just that line should spook you.
10/4/2001 11:02:58 PM EDT
[#10]
Here's another thought/hypo; he doesn't even have an AR to trade.  Maybe some underage school kid trying to get a gun, maybe just a con artist.  You send your gun to him and then never receive anything.  Whatcha going to do?  Complain to the police/feds that he screwed you on an illegal transaction and get charged yourself?

Don't walk away from this deal...run.