[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Randy Weaver (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 5/10/2007 11:59:46 AM EDT
| Never heard of him until recently. Looked up his story. Sounds like all he did wrong was possess a SB shotgun illegally and fail to appear in court. In response the government murdered his friend and wife. Is this a fairly accurate understanding? Or am I missing something. |
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Actually he refused to infilterate a white supremecists orginzation for the feds...he sawed a bbl of a shotgun for an undercover officer to the legal 18"s but the overall length was 1/2" too short, thus the "charge". continue Speed |
I understand he was a White Supremacist but I don't think that's a reason to murder his family. Freedom of thought and expression... |
Yes, he REFUSED to join the AB because he just belived in segregation, not all out racism...sigh. Hell of a background...went to some meetings; didn't like what they were preaching. end of story. Don't beleive the media hype bro... |
wrong He was and is a white SEPARATIST not supremacist. He wants to live and work with people who look like him. He never said he was better than anyone white or black. He is also a member here I believe so watch the COC. |
Wikipedia-Randy Weaver
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Uh, NO. He wasnt a White Supremeist, He was a white SEPERATIST. He just didnt want to live with people unlike himself. Kinda like you know, THE HOOD. If minorities do it its called, Hood, Ghetto,Barrio... If Whitey does it its called Exclusivety or Seperatist. Jim |
I didn't violate the CoC. I made no personal attacks, I stated facts. I don't care if he is a member here, although that's news to me. He did have a back ground with a real domestic terrorist organization. No that doesn't mean I think the government's murderous actions were justified. They were clearly in the wrong, but I'm not going to rush out read his books, ask for his autograph and talk about him like he is some kind of martyr. How would you guys feel if he had been a part of a Islam "separatist" group? The double standards on this site are mind boggling. |
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Randy lives in North Central Arkansas now and just desires a quiet private life, I don't know if he's a member here but I know he's a good man, some of his beliefs are a tad far out for me. He believes in ZOG, the Zionist occupied government, IOW he thinks Jews run the gumnint. I think it's just a JOG, or Jackass Operated Government. Other than that, he was entrapped. I once got married over being harrassed to do so. He finally sawed off the shotguns to shut the idiot begging him to do so up. |
If Islamic Seperatists wanted to move far away from me and keep to themselves, I don't think I'd have a problem with that. Its not their seperation from our society that pisses me off...quite the opposite actually. |
"I just went to the Klan picnic for the potato salad and horseshoes"  Weaver admits that the guy he sold the shotgun to said he was going to rob banks and attack armories in the US. Despite knowing this Weaver sold him a gun, a gun he had reason to know was going to be used to kill innocent americans. Now a decent human being, being told by some scumbag that the scumbag was going to start shooting up banks and US military facilities would have, oh, maybe contacted the authorities in an attempt to prevent the death of innocent americans. Ole Randy sold him a gun. He's a piece of shit and it's a disgrace that he shows up at gun shows. If someone really doesn't know Weaver's saga and how he got screwed over by the .gov read here: www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/cops_others/randy_weaver/1.html |
He was NOT in the Aryan Brotherhood. He was a "seperatists" not a "supremecist." He went to a Aryan Nations meeting and decided it wasn't for him. |
Wait...you were with him? Do you have any pictures of RW posing on the tiles? |
He admits that he went to them. |
It's really in poor taste to make statements for other posters. |
I knew that Randy had gone to some meetings/events/BBQs...I didn't know that Steyr was with him. |
And it's not like he did not know for a YEAR that he had arrest warrants issued. |
I beg to differ. The Courts ruled that he was entrapped. That he was tricked and coerced into the whole sawing off of the shotgun and he WAS exonerated..... I knwo several people who thought they were going to a shoot or campout etc... and when they got there they realized that they were not in place they like. As a matter of fact i know a whole lot about aryan gangs because of my line of work and know that that is exactly how they do it. It goes like " Hey bro glad you came to this camp out, how do you feel about _______?" When you realize that they are talking about race X or Group X then you scram but its too late the feds saw you at a meeting. LOL, Pass the potatos grand wizard. Jim It still doesnt justify killing his son and wife period. Jim |
+1  At least he wasn't a member of other "domestic terrorist" groups like NAACP, and the WPC.
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I highly doubt that anyone here knows the real truth. The feds could have manufactured the whole case about his gun being too short. The ATF has a history of this type of abuse. The feds could be being totally honest about everything and it was just a big FUBAR and a couple inocent people got killed. Probably some place in between. Best info that I have been able to find is that he was a seperatist not supremesist. He refused to be a snitch for some ABC agency. And sold a shotgun to an UC agent. There is a bunch of controversy on the exact nature of the transfer and the length of the firearm. Even if the gun violated the 1939 NFA act there is no reason to do what was done to him. It is a $200 tax violation not worth anyones life. The NFA is unconstitutional as it is. |
Exactly what I was going to say. Separation is fine. The INFILTRATION and DOMINATION parts are a little worrisome. |
A real JBT,  Lon Tomohisa Horiuchi (born June 9, 1954) is a U.S. FBI sniper who gained notoriety after his role in the Ruby Ridge shootings, following which he was indicted for manslaughter. The charge was dismissed and Horiuchi was later deployed during the Waco Siege. Wiki |
The court clerk changed the court date and they never notified him. He was acquitted of the gun charges by the way folks. So by the law we hold dear he was innocent |
That relates to the SBS problem. What about the selling a firearm knowing it would be used in a crime problem? |
someone just outed himself... j/k hehe |
Again, he admits that the guy he sold the gun to had talked about attacking banks and armories, it's in his book. I think he also admits that he knew what the meetings he went to were. He does say something along the lines that he went and it wasn't for him or somesuch. Personally I think he's pussy footing around but I could care less if he's a neo nazi or not. I don't doubt that it is possible he never broke the law and that the informant cut the shotgun barrel. I'd flip a coin on that one. Also the court screwed him over by illegally issuing a warrant for him. |
Holy shite.. Waco and Ruby?? |
From what I understand all he did was attend a couple meetings, its the ATF and the US Marshals that labeled Weaver a member. I wouldn't call him a patriot, just a man that tried to defend his home and family. |