[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Fort Dix Terror Plot!!! (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 5/8/2007 3:58:03 AM EDT
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18549005/ 6 held on terror conspiracy charges in N.J.Group allegedly plotted to attack Fort Dix military base, WNBC reports NBC, MSNBC and news services Updated: 10 minutes ago NEW YORK - Six men were arrested overnight on terror conspiracy charges in New Jersey, WNBC reported on Tuesday. Investigators said the men wanted to use AK-47s to storm the Fort Dix military base. The arrests were first reported by WNBC's Jonathan Dienst. WNBC is the flagship NBC television station for the New York tri-state area. Investigators told the station that the group discussed a number of possible targets, including the Dover Air base, Fort Monmouth and Coast Guard stations, but that they concluded the best target was Fort Dix. Fort Dix, which is run in part by the U.S. Army, is a reserve training center but active units also take part in training at the base, some of which is focused on counter-terrorism. Federal law enforcement officials confirmed the arrests, saying that the six were planning to get automatic weapons to shoot at U.S. service members. Investigators told NBC’s Pete Williams that the plot was in the planning stages but was not imminent. Acting on a tip, and with the help of an informant, the men were placed under surveillance. Investigators say some of the group's members -- all men and all believed to be Islamic radicals -- went to the Poconos over the past several months to practice firing guns. Some of the men were born overseas, in Albania and the former Yugoslavia. (Kosovo?) Intelligence officials told NBC News' Robert Windrem that they do not believe the plot was directed by al-Qaida because it did not match the key al-Qaida tenet: spectacular multiple simultaneous attacks. However, the idea that the men were using al-Qaida training films and following al-Qaida goals shows that there is a large number of people who can create such plots inspired by the terrorist organization, the officials said. The FBI and the US attorney plan a news conference later Tuesday to discuss the investigation. |
Does this make them any less of an ROP terrorist group? These same intell analysts will tell us that al-qaida is a loose organization which no longer has a unified command structure and their goal is to inspire others to committ attacks like this. Our intell and investigative service have an unhealthy fixation with al-quaida that may eventually prevent them from recognizing and thwarting a major attack conducted by a "non al-quaida" group. |
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Well, sounds like they're trying to make things interesting back home, as well as here in Kosovo. Expect a few more either Serb or Albanian Muslim things to go down as this independence issue here gets hashed out. It's being shoved down the Serbs throats, but it still isn't enough for the Albanian muslims. I've got my popcorn and my M-16 ready. 
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 I left FT. Dix a long ass time ago (Heck it was an open post then). but there were a lot of ways on and off post, range road being open as heck from off post. Perhaps they were considering force marching in. 
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Arms dealer, that's how! And NYC mayor Bloomberg has obviously been targting the wrong sources for his anti-illegal firearms stings... He should be going after the arms dealers instead of 'gun stores'. We need a Federal law to close the arms dealer loophole! Seriously, I am constantly amazed at the pinheads (esp. misguided, small minority of mis-understanders of Islam) who think there is some guy that hangs out in their town who sells SA-7s or Stingers or grenades or AK-47s. Or that you meet hitmen in diners. Has CAIR dispatched Ibrahim Hooper to explain to these poor deluded fellows that they have mis-understood the meaning of "jihad" and have totally taken the Koran's injunction to make war against the unbelievers until Islam is supreme out of context? |
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Update: "all believed to be Islamic radicals" "using al-Qaida training films and following al-Qaida goals" 6 held on terror conspiracy charges in N.J. Men from ex-Yugoslavia allegedly plotted to attack Fort Dix military base Updated: 9 minutes ago MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. - Six men were arrested overnight on charges they plotted to attack the Fort Dix Army base and "kill as many soldiers as possible," federal authorities said Tuesday. The men are all from the former Yugoslavia, said Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey. Five of them lived in Cherry Hill, he said. Drewniak said the six were scheduled to appear in U.S. District Court in Camden later Tuesday to face charges of conspiracy to kill U.S. servicemen. Story continues below ↓advertisement The arrests were first reported by WNBC's Jonathan Dienst. WNBC is the flagship NBC television station for the New York tri-state area. Investigators told WNBC that the group discussed a number of possible targets, including the the Dover Air base, Fort Monmouth and Coast Guard stations, but that they concluded the best target was Fort Dix. Fort Dix, which is run in part by the U.S. Army, is a reserve training center but active units also take part in training at the base, some of which is focused on counter-terrorism. It also housed refugees from Kosovo in 1999. No attack imminent Investigators told NBC’s Pete Williams that the plot was in the planning stages but was not imminent. Acting on a tip, and with the help of an informant, the men were placed under surveillance. Investigators said some of the group's members -- all men and all believed to be Islamic radicals -- went to the Poconos over the past several months to practice firing guns. Caught in sting A law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity because documents in the case remain sealed, said the men were arrested while trying to buy automatic weapons in a sale set-up by law enforcement authorities. The official said that the men had lived in the United States for some time and were arrested as part of a joint federal and local investigation. The Star-Ledger of Newark reported on its Web site that the men had agreed to buy AK-47 assault rifles from an arms dealer who was secretly cooperating with the FBI. It cited a law enforcement person who spoke on condition of anonymity because the source was not authorized to speak about the arrests. Intelligence officials told NBC News' Robert Windrem that they do not believe the plot was directed by al-Qaida because it did not match the key al-Qaida tenet: spectacular multiple simultaneous attacks. However, the idea that the men were using al-Qaida training films and following al-Qaida goals shows that there is a large number of people who can create such plots inspired by the terrorist organization, the officials said. FBI spokeswoman Jerri Williams said U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie and J.P. Weis, special agent in charge of the FBI in Philadelphia, planned a news conference later Tuesday to discuss the arrests. |
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More blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates/2007/05/6_arrested_in_plot_to_kill_sol.html
Just attacking the US military bases that US citizens won't.
This story notes that Homeland Defense starts with you. |
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I can't help but be angered by the fact that military bases are typically "gun free zones" except for the MP's. If they were to make a false DOD sticker for their car, or make fake military ID's and get on base... they could do some real damage at the base exchange, commissary, or chapel before the MP's could get control of the situation. Scary thought... |
No doubt. I'm sure one the goals of anyone attacking a mil base is to find the armory, and either secure or destroy the weapons there. |
LOL! No. The guards at the entrance are generally armed with an M16/sidearm. |
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I guess Dix was chosen because one of the guys was a pizza delivery guy and had "unfettered access to the base"! click
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No, we're waiting for Dr 308 to tell us this. |
Yeah, wonder when he'll be back..? Not that I miss the misguided little rascal, but he is a prominent member. |
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That was my first thought at hearing about this. I have always resented the prohibition of firearms on post. I'm paid to carry the Army's guns EVERYWHERE else, why can't I keep and carry on post? So gay. |
We're both right...It's a federal correctional institution as well. Providence, RI's former mayor Vincent Buddy Cianci is serving time there: Plunderdome
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Too much out there now... They thwarted a terror attack, pure and simple, and I think the bases should go on a higher state of alert as a result. |
I hadn't realized that they slacked off...I used to visit my old friends at Devens and at my reserve station frequently...after 9/11, it got a little harder to make social visits. Same thing for area defense manufacturing contractors like TI... |
McGuire and Dix aren't really high level bases...McGuire is a transport/air refueling base, and Dix is mostly just a training area for NG units. |
I don't think they necessarily did slack off -- I recall an incident (guess it was last year) here in MI at Selfridge ANG base where there was a shooting at one of the gates (click) so they wound up redesigning the gate layout to make it harder to do this. |
Why secure an ARMY BASE ?
How so? Most soldiers who own personal firearms must have them locked up at the unit armory. Also, most, if not all units do not keep ammunition in their amories. All the M4's, M249, M240B are not going to do much good without the ammunition that is stored at the Quartermaster unit down the street. As mentioned before, the only ones with an immediate weapons are MP's and usually that is a Beretta 92F. It would be a turkey shoot if these guys actually were able to obtain automatic weapons, or even just semi-auto AR-15's / AK-47's. Gun-Free zones are the most dangerous places in America. |
yea I never understood that...military bases are not the safest place to be when under attact at least when I was in the Marines I always had an M9 on my side but 99% of the base was unarmed  and all the weapons were locked up I hope things have changed..or now will change |
I'm sure they will have a dream team legal defense, here, paid for the the leftist "elite". After all, they are just misunderstood freedom fighters, who up to that point had not actually committed the act. And unfortunately, that could actually happen in this now fucked up country. 
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Pizza delivery over months/years would be a pretty good way to case a place... |