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5/4/2007 4:22:02 PM EDT
Was just having a conversation with a friend about brighter flashlights and police officers, and, seeing as how there are quite a few LEOs onboard this forum, I thought I'd ask here.

Would 200 torch lumens be considered excessive to point at the eyes of, say, an invididual getting a traffic ticket?  120?  60?  What would you consider too bright?
5/4/2007 4:37:34 PM EDT
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... A quick glancing blow is enough to hurt and make you see spots for a good 5-10 seconds.


There!
5/4/2007 5:12:18 PM EDT
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I have talked to more than a few guys who would give a suspect a quick flash of light to the eyes before walking back to the car so that the suspect would't be able to see the officer in the dark...not on every suspect, but if the suspect was acting hinky, it was a good tactic.  
5/4/2007 5:18:32 PM EDT
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... A quick glancing blow is enough to hurt and make you see spots for a good 5-10 seconds.


There!


What sound does that make?
5/4/2007 5:22:35 PM EDT
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I have used my flashlight to blind combatives or people hiding (some have a feature just for that purpose) a few times.  Most of the lights I own would blind a person. I never intentionally shine them in peoples faces on routine contacts, traffic or otherwise, unless they meet the aforementioned criteria.

If I need to see a persons face, I will "walk" the beam in from the side. I have a separate penlight for pupil evaluation/reaction.
5/4/2007 5:27:57 PM EDT
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I have used my flashlight to blind combatives or people hiding (some have a feature just for that purpose) a few times.  Most of the lights I own would blind a person. I never intentionally shine them in peoples faces on routine contacts, traffic or otherwise, unless they meet the aforementioned criteria.

If I need to see a persons face, I will "walk" the beam in from the side. I have a separate penlight for pupil evaluation/reaction.



Strobe settings on LED lights work awesome for blinding....it totally fucks w/ their vision

But to answer the OP's question...I think you'd be good w/ 60-70 lumens.
5/4/2007 8:22:29 PM EDT
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I had an officer doing a DL/insurance/your papers, bitte check one night, kept shining his flashlight in my eyes.  It was not accidental.  I asked him not to, but he kept it up.

Then when he said I could go, I just sat there.

Well, you can go.

No, I can't.  I can't see a thing now.  I can't move until I can see.

And I sat there until I could see.

Next morning I called the chief, one of my shooting buddies.  He took care of it.

5/4/2007 8:25:57 PM EDT
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My 6Z with the 120 lumen bulb is bright enough to leave a spot in your field of vision in daylight. I want to get one of the LED ones.
5/4/2007 10:52:39 PM EDT
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... A quick glancing blow is enough to hurt and make you see spots for a good 5-10 seconds.


There!


What sound does that make?


Ahahaha.  You know the answer, or you wouldn't have asked the question.  
5/4/2007 11:19:40 PM EDT
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I have used my flashlight to blind combatives or people hiding (some have a feature just for that purpose) a few times.  Most of the lights I own would blind a person. I never intentionally shine them in peoples faces on routine contacts, traffic or otherwise, unless they meet the aforementioned criteria.

If I need to see a persons face, I will "walk" the beam in from the side. I have a separate penlight for pupil evaluation/reaction.


+1

I do have the new LED Stinger with the strobe function.   Haven't had to use it for that, yet.
5/4/2007 11:25:39 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:

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... A quick glancing blow is enough to hurt and make you see spots for a good 5-10 seconds.


There!


What sound does that make?