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5/2/2007 11:03:43 AM EDT
Last month I sold a DCI FAL upper receiver on GB. All went well. The guy sent his payment and a copy of his dealer's FFL, I sent the reciever. Done deal.

Today I received an email from the buyer saying his dealer needs a copy of my driver's license, and the serial number on the receiver before he'll complete transfer! WTF? I've sold plenty of guns over the web, and it's payment & FFL, that's it. The FFL logs the receiver into his book, logs it out to the buyer, simple as that.

I think this guy's got his shit wrong.
5/2/2007 11:06:41 AM EDT
[#1]
The dealer, needs to verify who he recieved the gun from.  Some do this as course of business, some it is state law.  I always send a DL copy to the receiving dealer as a courtesy.  The serial number should be on the gun already.
5/2/2007 11:06:53 AM EDT
[#2]
From a federal law perspective, the FFL doesn't legally NEED a copy of your driver's license, but some prefer to have it fpr their records (in the acquisition/disposition log).  That's also the reason why some FFLs only want firearms sent to them from other FFLs - because it makes the record-keeping more "complete" and comprehensive.


Why would he ask for the serial number that was on the receiver?  Doesn't he have it right there?
5/2/2007 11:07:41 AM EDT
[#3]

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The dealer, needs to verify who he recieved the gun from.  Some do this as course of business, some it is state law.  I always send a DL copy to the receiving dealer as a courtesy.  The serial number should be on the gun already.
5/2/2007 11:10:35 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
From a federal law perspective, the FFL doesn't legally NEED a copy of your driver's license, but some prefer to have it fpr their records (in the acquisition/disposition log).  That's also the reason why some FFLs only want firearms sent to them from other FFLs - because it makes the record-keeping more "complete" and comprehensive.


Why would he ask for the serial number that was on the receiver?  Doesn't he have it right there?


I suppose he wants me to write it on the the copy of my driver's license. Something along the lines of "I (insert your name here) sold FAL upper receiver, serial number 0000, to (insert another name here) on (this date)."
5/2/2007 11:14:58 AM EDT
[#5]
I suppose you could always send or fax him a bill of sale/invoice, that states your name, address, etc and confirms that you are selling the upper.  That way, you aren't really giving him any new (or more extensive) info, but are giving him sort of what he wants for his records - unless it's a state law that he must have your driver's license.

Personally, it wouldn't bother me to send a copy of my driver's license.  Or, you could tell him that you don't drive and don't have a license, because Al Gore told you that carbon emmisions make Mother Earth cry.
5/2/2007 11:16:01 AM EDT
[#6]
I'll bet if you sent along a "bill-of-sale" type statement like you said just above that would end it.

As said the dealer needs to show in his book where he got the gun/receiver from. He's just wanting your info for that purpose.
5/2/2007 11:17:31 AM EDT
[#7]
I emeiled the buyer and said I'll send a copy of my DL. But I don't recall the number on the upper receiver. Bad on me, I know.
5/2/2007 11:19:12 AM EDT
[#8]
I'm guessing...as this is how ya have to do it in IL w/ FTF transfers.

You have to write/type out a bill of sale w/ both party's FOID numbers along w/ the firearm serial number on there.  Both parties have to keep that bill of sale for 10 years.
5/2/2007 11:20:26 AM EDT
[#9]

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I emeiled the buyer and said I'll send a copy of my DL. But I don't recall the number on the upper receiver. Bad on me, I know.


Ummm, isn't the number ON the receiver you sent?

I completely understand him wanting a copy of your DL, but most FFLs prefer to take the number right off the item.
5/2/2007 11:21:44 AM EDT
[#10]
Are Upper receivers on FAL's the "firearm" part of the gun?
5/2/2007 11:24:08 AM EDT
[#11]

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Are Upper receivers on FAL's the "firearm" part of the gun?


Yes.
5/2/2007 11:29:12 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Are Upper receivers on FAL's the "firearm" part of the gun?


Yes.


+1, and on DCI uppers the serial number is plain as day on the upper right side.
5/2/2007 11:35:02 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Are Upper receivers on FAL's the "firearm" part of the gun?


Yes.


+1, and on DCI uppers the serial number is plain as day on the upper right side.


Yeah, if the guy cant find the s/n himself, thats his problem.