Posted: 4/16/2007 8:28:06 AM EDT
 What fun. I got nothing to worry about, but... I have blown three previous Polys before due to them being INCONCLUSIVE. Meaning they could not tell when I was telling obvious LIES, LIES they MADE ME TELL. They were getting pissed at me. I was having fun. 'Are you a female?' 'Yes.' 'Wtf... (scribbles)' 'Are you the president of the USA?' 'Yes.' 'What the hell..... (clicky click)' 6 hours of that... your experiences? |
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i actually meditate during. I control my breathing. I answer in a monotone on the EXHALE even if i have to wait a sec to do so. I answer with the same NO or YES every time, no change in pitch or tone. Basically kill your personality. No joking. stare at a point on the wall, do not move your eyes. We had a BIO feedback galvanic skin thing and I could make it go quiet doing this type of stuff. Same Idea as a poly. |
| They still try to get guys to take those all the time around here, mostly on sex offense cases where they know they can't otherwise make a winnable case, usually because of the alleged victim's age. With no disrespect intended, cops and prosecutors usually don't have a strong hard science background and the industry is pretty well entrenched. Of course it can still work on the "Ouija board says yer fibbing, come clean!" angle. |
I agree. The only time it actually works is when they play tricks on you and tell you that they detected a lie so that you might contradict yourself in an attempt to 'fix' it. |
That's usually why they do it: Get the suspect to fess up when he thinks they have evidence that he's lying. In that sense, it works. But it's the guilty conscience of the perp that does the trick, not any scientific evidence. |
They tried that shit. i was like I am not lying. Show me on the paper... they showed me a vauge area and it looked just like the same 20 feet before it. this was in a Dot mil exam. 3 in a row. They threatened to have the MPs take me away because the only people capable of TRAINING me to Defeat the HOLY PLOYGRAPH is CHINA and IRAN. I said, OK! Call them, want to use my phone? They threatened to get me kicked out of the Army all sorts of shit. |
I really don't have a problem with that, I just don't think they should be a reason for denial of employment by a gov't agency. How many lie detectors did what's his name the CIA mole pass over the years? It not only can screw innocent people, but can give false confidence that there are no Quislings in an agency when there are. |
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Took two and failed both. The first guy told me exactly what it monitors and then you spend the rest of the 3 tests obsessing about it. Of course, obsessing about it, your body does exactly the opposite of what you want it to do. Not a test to take if you are susceptible to panic attacks, anxiety or clausterphobia. The shit they give you about allowing for nervousness is bullshit. Also, it depends on what you are being tested on and subject matter of the questions they are asking you. There's a difference between stealing paper clips and a felony. I'll never take one again. Everything turned out okay in my case though. No machine has been invented yet to tell if you are lying or telling the truth. I couldn't be a polygraph tech and still sleep at night. |
you should have wiped them on the camera 
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I have to take one every 5 years to keep my job. I friggin hate the things. I screwed up the on my last one and told the truth on a control question I was to lie to. It screwed up the whole test and I had to take a different test that you only answer with the word no. The two control questions where: Have you ever betrayed the trust of a loved one? and Have you ever done anything dishonest? most fucked up test questions ever. I passed the test and the only thing I can figure is they know you can not possibly answer those questions truthfully unless you are a new born. |
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I had 1 at work last January. Someone stole over 6k from the safe. I had my own idea about who stole it, & so did everyone else. When I took the test the lady giving it spent about 20 min talking with me 1st then did a base line of questions, & told me the same questions would be asked when the test started & not to change my answers from the base line test. One question was had I ever stolen anything from any place I had worked? I answerd no. Upon taking the test which was given 3 times with a break inbetween, I remembered something I had been involved in that happened over 26 yrs ago at work. Deliverd christmas trees from the greenhouse I worked at to a tree lot in St.Paul Mn. Boss gave me & a coworker $5.00 to buy dinner at McD's on our way home. We lost the money somehow we kept one tree & sold it to a guy walking by for $5.00 so we could get some chow. Anyway after the 1st 2 test she stopped long enough to ask if ther was a problem with that question. She said to answer yes or no, not to change my answer on the 3rd test, & we would discuss it afterward. I told her the story, & she said each time she asked the question my BP would fluctuate just a tiny bit. Other than that question I got a perfect score. So did everyone else. Except for one. That person got all the questions not concerning the money as telling the truth, all the money questions they failed miserably. The boss asked the person to talk with him about it, & the person tossed their offce keys down & left never to return. |
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The last polygraph I took was over 10 years ago when I started in Narcotics. The administrator said that I was, "the smoothest liar he had ever seen"...which was why I was being transferred to their division I guess. His supervisor agreed with him, (the supervisor knew me from years back and knew that I was telling the truth...) go figure. Thank God they don't allow this junk science in the courtroom. 
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Here's a few interesting links about polygraphs - Link Link Link
Several years ago 60 Minutes did a segment on polygraphs where they brought in several examiners to find out who had supposedly stolen some money from the office. Before the exams begun, all the examiners had asked management who they thought stole the money. Each time they fingered a different employee as the "suspect." All the employees answered truthfully since no one had stolen any money. In every case the polygraph examiner came to the conclusion that the suspected employee had failed the test and had stolen the money. |