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4/10/2007 10:24:54 AM EDT
Just a quick question on the proper method to use this stuff: are you just suppose to squirt some over the top of the screw after it has been screwed in or are you suppose to squirt some down the screw hole before you screw the screw in?

Thanks
4/10/2007 10:27:55 AM EDT
[#1]
I put it on the screw/bolt threads before insertion
4/10/2007 10:28:01 AM EDT
[#2]
Apply a dab to a cleanable surface and then roll the threaded portion of the fastener though the dab.

One dab will go a long way.

Putting it directly on the threads works also but is more wasteful.

Make sure everything is degreased first.
4/10/2007 10:28:09 AM EDT
[#3]
I think you put it on the threads then screw it on in.
4/10/2007 10:32:37 AM EDT
[#4]
You have to be a moderator.  


I dribble a little on the screw's threads, then insert the screw and tighten down.
4/10/2007 10:40:03 AM EDT
[#5]

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I think you put it on the threads then screw it on in.


That is what I thought.  The problem is that I have an adjustable fire control group for my AK (red star arms) and the instruction manual says to keep adjusting all the screws until you acheive the precise trigger pull you want.  Once this is done, you apply the Loctite Threadlocker.  If I had to unscrew the adjustable screws all the way out to apply the threadlocker to the threads, then it seems like it would be pretty hard to screw them back in the exact place I had them previously set to without having to go through the whole process of testing and fine tuning them in the first place.
4/10/2007 10:47:40 AM EDT
[#6]

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I think you put it on the threads then screw it on in.


That is what I thought.  The problem is that I have an adjustable fire control group for my AK (red star arms) and the instruction manual says to keep adjusting all the screws until you acheive the precise trigger pull you want.  Once this is done, you apply the Loctite Threadlocker.  If I had to unscrew the adjustable screws all the way out to apply the threadlocker to the threads, then it seems like it would be pretty hard to screw them back in the exact place I had them previously set to without having to go through the whole process of testing and fine tuning them in the first place.


I think they make a wicking loctite, meaning you can put it on top of the screw and it absorbs into the threads.. I think its green but I'm not sure.
4/10/2007 10:51:05 AM EDT
[#7]

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I think you put it on the threads then screw it on in.


That is what I thought.  The problem is that I have an adjustable fire control group for my AK (red star arms) and the instruction manual says to keep adjusting all the screws until you acheive the precise trigger pull you want.  Once this is done, you apply the Loctite Threadlocker.  If I had to unscrew the adjustable screws all the way out to apply the threadlocker to the threads, then it seems like it would be pretty hard to screw them back in the exact place I had them previously set to without having to go through the whole process of testing and fine tuning them in the first place.


I think they make a wicking loctite, meaning you can put it on top of the screw and it absorbs into the threads.. I think its green but I'm not sure.


If such a thing exists, that is probably what I would want then.  The interesting thing is that in the instruction manual, it specifically states to use blue Loctite.
4/10/2007 10:57:39 AM EDT
[#8]

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I think you put it on the threads then screw it on in.


That is what I thought.  The problem is that I have an adjustable fire control group for my AK (red star arms) and the instruction manual says to keep adjusting all the screws until you acheive the precise trigger pull you want.  Once this is done, you apply the Loctite Threadlocker.  If I had to unscrew the adjustable screws all the way out to apply the threadlocker to the threads, then it seems like it would be pretty hard to screw them back in the exact place I had them previously set to without having to go through the whole process of testing and fine tuning them in the first place.

Find the setting you want, count the number of turns to get there, then apply locktite and count turns.
4/10/2007 11:00:59 AM EDT
[#9]
1. Shake the bottle.
2. Put the screw on the screwdriver.
3. Squeeze a bit of loctite on the threads while slowly turning the screw for coverage.
4. Insert screw.
5. Wipe off excess that may have run over.
4/10/2007 11:05:09 AM EDT
[#10]

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If such a thing exists, that is probably what I would want then.  The interesting thing is that in the instruction manual, it specifically states to use blue Loctite.



www.midwayautosupply.com/showproduct.aspx?productid=12030&affiliateid=10050

Found it... I'm sure you can find it elsewhere thats just the first link google brought up.
4/10/2007 11:28:58 AM EDT
[#11]
Just be careful with the loctite, different colors can sometimes mean different holding strengths. I have worked with green loctite that was extremely difficult to remove and some that was yet a different color that was almost impossible to remove even with the use of a torch.
4/10/2007 11:35:30 AM EDT
[#12]

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Just be careful with the loctite, different colors can sometimes mean different holding strengths.
4/10/2007 11:38:02 AM EDT
[#13]
Dont' over do it!!!!! just a dot is PLENTY!!!


too much can have the same effect as using none at all
4/10/2007 11:49:19 AM EDT
[#14]
Do NOT let your cat taste it.


I can tell you from personal experience that it is NOT a good thing.
4/10/2007 11:51:08 AM EDT
[#15]

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Just be careful with the loctite, different colors can sometimes mean different holding strengths.


No doubt, GREEN means you have to machine it out.
4/10/2007 11:57:26 AM EDT
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Just be careful with the loctite, different colors can sometimes mean different holding strengths.


No doubt, GREEN means you have to machine it out.


Green is removable with heat and a screwdriver just like red and blue....... Although red can be very difficult at times lol

ETA: Found this via search www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=321821
4/10/2007 12:01:30 PM EDT
[#17]

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I think you put it on the threads then screw it on in.


That is what I thought.  The problem is that I have an adjustable fire control group for my AK (red star arms) and the instruction manual says to keep adjusting all the screws until you acheive the precise trigger pull you want.  Once this is done, you apply the Loctite Threadlocker.  If I had to unscrew the adjustable screws all the way out to apply the threadlocker to the threads, then it seems like it would be pretty hard to screw them back in the exact place I had them previously set to without having to go through the whole process of testing and fine tuning them in the first place.

Find the setting you want, count the number of turns to get there, then apply locktite and count turns.


+1

Got it where you want it?
Back out three revolutions, put a dot of locktite on the threads, crank back in three revolutions. You're done.
4/10/2007 12:04:54 PM EDT
[#18]

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Just be careful with the loctite, different colors can sometimes mean different holding strengths.


No doubt, GREEN means you have to machine it out.


Green is removable with heat and a screwdriver just like red and blue....... Although red can be very difficult at times lol


Maybe on something small like a screw.

I worked in a machine shop in a past life and one day we were doing a pump rebuild using green like we've done in the past. Machined the old bronze bushing out, cleaned up the hold, made a new bushing, applied the green loctite slid it in the hole and FUCK!!

Got it suck with about a 1-1/2" to go. Had to machine out the new bushing and start again.
4/10/2007 12:10:45 PM EDT
[#19]

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Do NOT let your cat taste it.


I can tell you from personal experience that it is NOT a good thing.


Well now you've got me curious--and I don't have a cat.  What happened?  
4/10/2007 12:24:30 PM EDT
[#20]

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Do NOT let your cat taste it.


I can tell you from personal experience that it is NOT a good thing.


Well now you've got me curious--and I don't have a cat.  What happened?  


That's what neighbors cats are for!  Let theirs taste it then sit back and watch.
4/10/2007 12:56:16 PM EDT
[#21]

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Do NOT let your cat taste it.


I can tell you from personal experience that it is NOT a good thing.


Well now you've got me curious--and I don't have a cat.  What happened?  


That's what neighbors cats are for!  Let theirs taste it then sit back and watch.


The red stuff at least is exceptionally sweet.  I bet the cats really like it.  I haven't consumed enough to know the toxicity.  But it sure tempted me to squirt a little in my coffee.    (I didn't)

General notes based on my expirience:

If you really want it to stick the screw in place for good you must degrease.

If you want to stick something you had no idea could even stick somewhere deep inside the mechanism use the wicking grade.
4/10/2007 8:53:31 PM EDT
[#22]
The blue is sweet too.

Engine Coolant (antifreeze) type sweet though, not sugar cookie type sweet.
4/10/2007 9:02:15 PM EDT
[#23]
I hate the liquid after trying the stick. Liquid goes everywhere. You may like the stick alot better.

4/10/2007 9:14:36 PM EDT
[#24]
The stick is really the way to go.. Same goes for anti-sneeze.. Use the stick

BLUE- Medium Strength, applied before assembly.  Impact may be needed to  break it free.. Tap with a hammer, or impact gun
RED-High Strength, for threaded & slip fit joints. Applied before assembly. Heat + impact needed to break free
GREEN #290-Medium Strength, applied AFTER assembly. Impact may be needed to break it free.. Wicks into treads
GREEN #640-High Strength, applied before assembly. Heat and impact usually needed to break it free..

There are may other kinds too but most people will never see them.. Things such as bearing race lock, pipe lock, medical and dental lock.....

Another thing is that you don't always have to reapply if you adjust the screw / blot when you use the blue.. The heat cause by the friction of the turning screw will cause it to reset and recure.
4/10/2007 9:19:11 PM EDT
[#25]
A tiny bit on the threads.  An ounce should do you for about twenty years during normal household use.


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That is what I thought.  The problem is that I have an adjustable fire control group for my AK (red star arms) and the instruction manual says to keep adjusting all the screws until you acheive the precise trigger pull you want.  Once this is done, you apply the Loctite Threadlocker.  If I had to unscrew the adjustable screws all the way out to apply the threadlocker to the threads, then it seems like it would be pretty hard to screw them back in the exact place I had them previously set to without having to go through the whole process of testing and fine tuning them in the first place.



Unscrew the screw until it is almost out while counting rotations.  Apply a little blue locktite to a toothpick and apply it to the screw threads then tighten the screw the same number of rotations used to loosen it.
4/11/2007 3:31:57 AM EDT
[#26]

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Do NOT let your cat taste it.


I can tell you from personal experience that it is NOT a good thing.


Well now you've got me curious--and I don't have a cat.  What happened?  


I was putting a scope on my 1022 and had the cap off the loctite sitting on the table. My cat jumped up there and I didn't think about it until it was too late. Too late meaning him jumping off the table foaming at the mouth running around spitting and making a mess.

I guess it smelled good but the taste wasn't what he expected.
4/11/2007 11:19:44 AM EDT
[#27]
In some applications I use Vibra-Tite, especially in applications where the screw doesn't completely tighten.  Vibra-Tite cures to a semi hard, rubbery texture.  It holds position very well.
4/11/2007 11:24:09 AM EDT
[#28]

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Do NOT let your cat taste it.


I can tell you from personal experience that it is NOT a good thing.


Well now you've got me curious--and I don't have a cat.  What happened?  


I was putting a scope on my 1022 and had the cap off the loctite sitting on the table. My cat jumped up there and I didn't think about it until it was too late. Too late meaning him jumping off the table foaming at the mouth running around spitting and making a mess.

I guess it smelled good but the taste wasn't what he expected.


Ah--gotcha.  

That sounds like me and a bottle of vanilla when I was a little kid.