Posted: 3/28/2007 12:35:07 PM EDT
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My daughters boy friend is looking for a 45ACP that is small enough to carry in his pants pocket. Anyone have any idea of one that small? And with a decent trigger pull. Thanks, Mike |
If he's a banger, he should be able to put a Commander-size pistol in his pocket. I would think that he should try a gun shop, unless he's underage or already a fellon. |
You might be able to technically put it in your pants pocket, but it won't be concealed and uncomfortable as hell. |
Depending on the size of the pocket in question maybe the PM4543? (5+1, ~3 inch barrel)
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The Sig P245 is pretty compact, but it's not the smallest and Sig no longer manufactures them. The Taurus Millenium Pro is a tight package. The Kimber RCP II is a nice, small, snag-free 1911 with a 7-round capacity. ETA: There are really no .45's that can fit into a pocket and not print. Besides, it would be uncomfortable and drawing the thing would be awkward as hell. Tell him to get an IWB holster. |
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There's the Downsizer single shot 45acp and the Bond Arms Derringers that come in 45acp also. |
Semmerling. Good luck finding one, though. The Semmerling series of pistols included the LM1, LM2, LM3, LM4 and XLM. The only version available to the public was the LM4. The LM4 was first designed and manufactured in the U.S.A. in early 1980s and marketed at a price of USD 750. The LM4 was first offered to the U. S. Army and government agencies. The goal of the LM4 was to achieve a combination of the highest practical firepower in as small and light a gun as possible that could be concealed very easily. This was approached by selecting the service caliber of .45 ACP for its proven stopping power and opting for a manual repeating mechanism to minimize bulk and weight and insure flawless operation in the most difficult situations. The Semmerling LM4 has 33 parts (including screws), making it one of the simplest guns ever made. In the original design, every part except for the springs was made of high-quality S-7 tool steel. Every pistol was Magnafluxed (form of X-ray) twice in their assembly, making the LM4 one of the most carefully constructed pistols produced. Each pistol was essentially hand made to order with production averaging a little over ten pieces a month, while maintaining very strict quality control procedures to ensure a high degree of reliability and functionality. Of the LM4 model, only about 600 were ever produced. Although the Semmerling was intended as a back-up pistol for those most at risk of having their primary weapon taken from them, some adoted the pistol as a "hide-out" weapon. Capable of a "shot-a-second" firing rate, a practiced shooter can achieve an outstanding shooting performance. With the magazine loaded and a round in the chamber, the Semmerling LM4 is capable of carrying five .45acp rounds. During 2005, the largest collections of Semmerlings comprising examples of the LM1, LM2, LM3, LM4 and the XLM along with all prototypes, tooling, drawings, production and testing equipment, advertising materials and leather accessories were provided to The National Firearms Museum, The Cody Firearms Museum and The Smithsonian. The XLM was a military contract for an automatic verision (not manually operated) making the Semmerling XLM the smallest .45acp automatic ever produced. A stainless steel version, not part of the Semmerling Corportion's efforts, has been available at request from the American Derringer corporation since about 1995. |
+1, solid gun. However, My vote goes to the XD .45 compact |
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small enough to fit in pocket and has decent trigger pull. If he is standing up 24-7 then a few of the ones mentioned might work, depending on his build and what type pants he wears. I don't think any of them would be comfortable or truly concealed sitting or doing anything besides standing around. |
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Maybe he needs a smaller caliber, most .45 small concealed pistols dont allow many followup shots. Maybe one of these: www.kel-tec.com/p11.html |
You knew they were going to give you hell when you posted this thread. I wouldn't be too worried about it. Also, you might be better served in the Handgun Forums, even the Concealed Carry one, they'd probably be the people you're trying to reach. The GD forum's kind of like the grab ass and non sense forum, if you want to get technical, search the sub forums, you'll be probably more than happy with the results. |
me want  wonder how much the copies run? |
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Um....no. I was going to be all over the Kahr .45 but they had frame cracking issues. Then I did more research on the rest of their line. Needless to say, I don't have one. American Derringer makes a .45ACP, I think. It would have some robust recoil in that platform. 230gr .45LC Schofield loads are very similar to a .45ACP in energy. I shot about 20 rounds and that was enough for me. A .38 is good enough for me.  Those AMT backups are questionable too. A lot of cops were buying them and they wouldn't feed reliably at qualification. Here they have to qualify with backup guns too!!! A true pocket gun is a 5 shot .38 with a shaved hammer. |
Nothing wrong with picking the caliber first then finding the platform to use it. I really think this is the correct order, that it should be done. The KAHR in 45acp looks interesting; I'll have to look deeper into this. Don't be worried about being pissed, this is GD that's the way it works here 
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I would try and talk him into something a little larger with this:www.clipdraw.com/ but thats just my opinion. |