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1/20/2007 9:36:34 PM EDT
You have to read all the posts.. its kinda sad though.. I got a laugh out if it.


Wades showing his ass big time here(not really)
1/20/2007 9:37:42 PM EDT
[#1]
Yep... Got a lot of us riled up over there.
1/20/2007 9:40:40 PM EDT
[#2]
Whats your user name over there?
1/20/2007 9:48:17 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Whats your user name over there?


Friiguy here and there. I amnot able to serve so I am staying out of this one.
Thanks to all those that have served.
1/20/2007 9:53:23 PM EDT
[#4]
I have to raise my hand here and admit that I was the one who got alot of this shit storm started. For that I apologize. However, this asshat deserves every bit of what he gets. Fucking loser.

Zack, aka brd-arfcomistan.
1/20/2007 10:01:13 PM EDT
[#5]
i think the reason he hasnt been banned yet is he is providing an anger outlet for us to unleash on since the war is dieing down.
1/20/2007 10:10:53 PM EDT
[#6]
Can somebody explain to this dummy what the hell the FAN site is for?  I just spent 30 minutes reading that slaughter of poor old Wade and another 30 minutes trying to figure that place out.
1/20/2007 10:13:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Lord what a stupid POS!!
1/20/2007 10:14:00 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I have to raise my hand here and admit that I was the one who got alot of this shit storm started. For that I apologize. However, this asshat deserves every bit of what he gets. Fucking loser.

Zack, aka brd-arfcomistan.
Oh so youre to blame.,. He had it coming.. And FAN is for an ONLINE sim game Cybernations. Its like Arfcom kinda..
1/20/2007 10:16:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Why is it all the smart guys end up in wheelchairs ? LOL
1/20/2007 10:16:51 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I have to raise my hand here and admit that I was the one who got alot of this shit storm started. For that I apologize. However, this asshat deserves every bit of what he gets. Fucking loser.

Zack, aka brd-arfcomistan.
Oh so youre to blame.,. He had it coming.. And FAN is for an ONLINE sim game Cybernations. Its like Arfcom kinda..


yep it was me. i raised the BS flag on him in his original thread and it went downhill from there, through several more.

1/20/2007 10:44:43 PM EDT
[#11]
I keep seeing references to a DD-212. Wtf is a DD-212? When I got out, you got a DD-214.
1/20/2007 10:47:52 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I keep seeing references to a DD-212. Wtf is a DD-212? When I got out, you got a DD-214.



exactly right. our poser friend never picked up on that
1/20/2007 10:58:38 PM EDT
[#13]
Does anyone have a transcript of what he originally said? The link on the FAN site wouldnt work for me.
1/20/2007 10:59:58 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I keep seeing references to a DD-212. Wtf is a DD-212? When I got out, you got a DD-214.



exactly right. our poser friend never picked up on that
Aha...gotcha! I didn't get too far in that thread before that guy's stupidity started giving me a headache.
1/20/2007 11:04:22 PM EDT
[#15]
I give up, what's a DD-212?
1/20/2007 11:05:44 PM EDT
[#16]
Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo,!!!!!!!

I'm Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, I'm Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.!!!!!

I have a pretzel in my brain after reading that thread.





1/20/2007 11:23:55 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I give up, what's a DD-212?



let me explain this again.


A poser generally won't know the difference between a dd-214 and a dd-212. So, if you ask him for a DD212, and he doesn't immediately say WTF? it's a dd214! then you know he's full of shit.


Make sense?
1/20/2007 11:46:22 PM EDT
[#18]
Why did you ask if he served in the Military Anyways?

Then again, I don't have an account with FAN so I might not be able to read everything. I have a Cyber Nations account, just haven't got around to making the Nation Part.

Nathan
1/21/2007 12:03:33 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I give up, what's a DD-212?



let me explain this again.


A poser generally won't know the difference between a dd-214 and a dd-212. So, if you ask him for a DD212, and he doesn't immediately say WTF? it's a dd214! then you know he's full of shit.


Make sense?

[borat]Niiiiiiice[borat]
1/21/2007 12:24:02 AM EDT
[#20]
  Crap like that is why I belong to an informal alliance.
First he gets an invitation, then you guys make fun of
him.  I knew a guy who was a SSGT during Vietnam,
and to this day still cant write two words...but he
has good leadership skills.  When someone would
rail about it I'd remind them he was a combat vet
and deserves respect.  For all you guys know
he's hardcore with a keyboard handicap and cant
spell, yet hes busy checking the zero on his
Remington 700 a few miles from your house.
1/21/2007 12:27:14 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
  Crap like that is why I belong to an informal alliance.
First he gets an invitation, then you guys make fun of
him.  I knew a guy who was a SSGT during Vietnam,
and to this day still cant write two words...but he
has good leadership skills.  When someone would
rail about it I'd remind them he was a combat vet
and deserves respect.



Well, this particular assclown is a veteran of counter-strike. He trained in the airsoft brigade.


He deserves no respect at all.

Your friend, however, has my respect to it's fullest extent. Shake his hand for me next time you see him.
1/21/2007 12:35:53 AM EDT
[#22]
One guy says he got a 125 on his ASVAB.... top score is 99.
1/21/2007 12:48:31 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
One guy says he got a 125 on his ASVAB.... top score is 99.


I know that the ASVAB is scored differently for the USAF.
1/21/2007 12:50:09 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
One guy says he got a 125 on his ASVAB.... top score is 99.


I know that the ASVAB is scored differently for the USAF.


Nope.

Let me find the link, hang on.
1/21/2007 12:53:22 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
One guy says he got a 125 on his ASVAB.... top score is 99.


I know that the ASVAB is scored differently for the USAF.


Nope.

Let me find the link, hang on.


Something like this?
1/21/2007 12:54:58 AM EDT
[#26]
Kangaroo what I was trying to say was that I remember that the composite scores were different for each branch.
1/21/2007 12:55:58 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Kangaroo what I was trying to say was that I remember that the composite scores were different for each branch.



Maybe so but the max is 99 regardless of branch.

Heres linky.

I dont know anything about Air Force but I did a bunch of research on the test awhile back, there were some questions in my petition thread. Some guy said a 96 barely qualified someone for infantry. (whichh is wrong)
I got a 96 and the top is 99.
The same test for all branches.
I have no idea about how air force would score differently.
I may be wrong.
But the guy who said he got 125 is full of shit.



usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/l/blafqtscore.htm
1/21/2007 1:15:34 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I keep seeing references to a DD-212. Wtf is a DD-212? When I got out, you got a DD-214.



exactly right. our poser friend never picked up on that


I can't believe the others guys outed you on that. Totally had him. As soon as he found out what a DD214 was he went and googled it I bet.

What a huge POS.

Why did he make up a bunch of crap? Sounds to be like he got a big fat no-go in Basic and still hasn't accepted it.
1/21/2007 1:28:14 AM EDT
[#29]
That was some of the craziest shit I have ever read...

wade hawk
Pending Member
No shit Shurlock, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see I wasn't getting in anyway. I figured that out on the first few posts on this thread. Let me let you in on some insider information. I wouldn't fight alongside this group if my life depended on it. All you do is stir up a bunch of stuff you know nothing about. I offered to post Prof but looks like it doesn't matter anyway. I was attacked in the thread guns and bullets because I have differant views on weapons and such. I don't care who any of you are you can all kiss my 6.
Is this guy a total retart...
1/21/2007 1:28:30 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I keep seeing references to a DD-212. Wtf is a DD-212? When I got out, you got a DD-214.



exactly right. our poser friend never picked up on that


I can't believe the others guys outed you on that. Totally had him. As soon as he found out what a DD214 was he went and googled it I bet.

What a huge POS.

Why did he make up a bunch of crap? Sounds to be like he got a big fat no-go in Basic and still hasn't accepted it.



yeah i know, i talked about the dd212 scam in a higher level thread specifically to prevent that from happening. and, when it did, i mentioned the guy who did it and why he fucked it up so bad in a later post..and the guy who spoiled it responded with a simple "FUCK YOU"

What a tard.
1/21/2007 1:29:36 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
That was some of the craziest shit I have ever read...

wade hawk
Pending Member
No shit Shurlock, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see I wasn't getting in anyway. I figured that out on the first few posts on this thread. Let me let you in on some insider information. I wouldn't fight alongside this group if my life depended on it. All you do is stir up a bunch of stuff you know nothing about. I offered to post Prof but looks like it doesn't matter anyway. I was attacked in the thread guns and bullets because I have differant views on weapons and such. I don't care who any of you are you can all kiss my 6.
Is this guy a total retart...



Yeah..different view on weapons. Right. One sec. i'll show you some of his views.


1/21/2007 1:38:51 AM EDT
[#32]
*** LONG POST WARNING BUT ITS FUNNY SHIT***

Some of wade hawk's wisdom (he's the poser guy)



Wade hawk says:

Nice weapons you got there, that M-4 is set up real nice and with that reflex you should be makeing real fast accurate hits. Do you also have a full length barrel for it too? If not I would get an accurized heavy barrel and day night scope for it, you'de be set then.



in response to a picture of my m4gery




I replied with :


A longer barrel isn't going to make it any more accurate..and a heavy barrel will just make it weigh more.

The eotech with the light is my day/night scope.


the 16" that's on it is every bit as accurate as i need it to be for anything in range of where i'll be using it.



He responded:

Actually a longer barrel all things being equal will make it more accurate. Are you useing a 16 to 1 twist?


I LOL'd and responded with:


No, and no.


Do you even own a gun? These aren't airsoft. I didn't pull them out of counter-strike.


The m4gery is a 1/9 twist, and whether you believe it or not...all things being equal, the only thing you get out of a longer barrel is more velocity.

By the way, i've never even heard of an AR type barrel with more than 1/12 twist. ...


He said this crap and linked to a conversion manual for an SKS (link removed):

As velocity drops so does accuracy, at longer ranges was what I was talking about, thats why I also mentioned the scope. And yes I do own a gun, in fact I can make any gun I desire. I do have 2 years of mechanical engineering and a MACHINEST 1. If you are sure you will never have to engage anyone past 300 yards then have at it. I agree up close it doesn't really matter the length of the barrell.

To the other guy, your correct, but so am I. It can be either it just takes some modifications. Heres a link.



my response:


As I told you before, the gun is well suited for what I'm going to be using it for. I know of several people who engage  targets accurately with a 10.5" SBR at ranges over 400yd. So..do me a favor, unless you own an AR (or have been in the mil and have experience with a M16 variant) keep your opinions to yourself. You're digging yourself deeper into a hole with your nonsense.



His:


You know, I don't like your attitude. So I'm gonna respond to this line by line. First off I don't play counterstrike are use airsoft.

And second I was in the military for 8 years, in  combat MOS'S.

If its suited for what you are gonna be using it for thats fine, I already said that. I wasn't knocking your set up just asking questions about it. No need to cop an attitude.  engaging targets at over 400 yards with a 10.5 SBR is one thing, putting them down effectively is another. Go to combat then come back and talk to me about M-16's.

What I said wasn't nonsense, you have no idea who I am are what I know. I'm not worried in the least about digging a hole either. As I said I can make my own rifles so I do know a bit about a rifle. I've had allot of people tell me about their weapons accuracy, IE how accurate it is ,etc. Usually they can't shoot good enough to tell me whats accurate are not.

I can make 168 yard hits with my 45, and knock out the 10 ring at 33 yards without touching the ring, and thats only with my 45. Don't think your special, you aren't the only one who has weapons. I can arm a whole platoon with my arsenal.



I LOL'd again for several minutes and responded with:


Alright then. Your internet dick is better than mine. How about a spelling contest instead?


ETA: If you're telling the truth about your 8 years of service, then I thank you for your service. I only question that if you spent that much time in a combat MOS, why do you not know a DAMN THING about the m16/ar15 weapon system?

--- from one military veteran to another.



He replied with:



After a certain distance though its artillery, like I said after you posted this, I can make hits at 168 yards consistently with a 5 inch barreled 45. However the gun is not the one who is accurate at that point, thats more shooter than gun then. I never said he couldn't make hits at over 300 yards either, but that weapons not effective after 300 yards. Thats why the Army doesn't even shoot full length barreled 5.56 rounds at targets past 300. It doesn't matter though, as hes already pretty much said he plans on using it up closer, its good for that.



I laughed at him again and responded with:


even more poser misinformation.

I GUARANTEE YOU there are members of this board that have made KILL SHOTS over 400yd with a 5.56, both Army and Marines

Please for your own sake, STFU!



Then he gives us the canned reasons why the AR system sucks:


LOL, why do you say I know nothing about it? I think we both know I do. I'll tell you the truth though, I don't like the politicians rifle. Heres what I know about it:

[1] Its design is flawed, the gas system is a joke and it will never be fixed, because to fix it will require a differant rifle.

[2] Dust are carbon deposits make it jam too much, I like reliability.

[3] It is accurate though, I did a 3 shot group with an old beat up one and had all rounds touching center mass. When I qualified with one I always got 36 are better out of 40, never missed on the peppers though. I remember the last time I qualified I hit 37 out of 40 and handed 3 rounds back to them. I don't shoot if I think I'll miss, unless its an ambush are something calling for battle tactics.

Don't get me wrong I still like the rifle, its got allot going for it, but I am of the 30 caliber persuasion when it comes to SHTF or TEOTWAWKI kinda thing. Your weapons are all nice, they got their place. I just like to keep more distance for safety reasons, thats why I zeroed my pistol at 33 yards instead of 5.



To which I replied:


Spoken like someone who has never even fired one. There's not a damn thing wrong with the gas system. Dust and carbon isn't a problem if you MAINTAIN YOUR WEAPON LIKE YOU ARE TRAINED TO DO,  and yeah, they are extremely accurate.

Edit: i wasnt finished...i get ahead of myself.

Why do i say you don't know anything about them? Well, for starters your whole 1/16 barrel twist thing, combined with not realizing that the barrel length is negligible... why is it that most units are transitioning to the m4 over the M16A4 then? ....i don't quite get your deal about the politicians rifle either. Yeah, it was screwed up in vietnam. yeah they used shitty ammo, yeah they were told they didnt have to clean it. All that has been fixed over the past 40 years.

Get some new material, please.

BTW , zero your pistol at 25 yards like everyone else. you'll get better results that way.

1/21/2007 1:55:41 AM EDT
[#33]
OK I'm totally confused. What is that site anyways?
1/21/2007 1:57:57 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
OK I'm totally confused. What is that site anyways?



was answered earlier in the thread, but it's a site for our alliance in cybernations. there's several threads about CN on here too. see this thread for more info about cybernations and FAN ( Federation of Armed Nations)
1/21/2007 1:58:31 AM EDT
[#35]

I don't shoot if I think I'll miss, unless its an ambush are something calling for battle tactics.


Yeah, me too.
Sometimes, a man just has to go crazy and break out the battle tactics on 'em.
1/21/2007 2:03:25 AM EDT
[#36]
Why do people enjoy provoking the crazies do much?    It is interesting to read, but when you interact with a high functioning lunatic, you assume a certain amount of risk and responsibility.
1/21/2007 2:15:23 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Kangaroo what I was trying to say was that I remember that the composite scores were different for each branch.



Maybe so but the max is 99 regardless of branch.

Heres linky.

I dont know anything about Air Force but I did a bunch of research on the test awhile back, there were some questions in my petition thread. Some guy said a 96 barely qualified someone for infantry. (whichh is wrong)
I got a 96 and the top is 99.
The same test for all branches.
I have no idea about how air force would score differently.
I may be wrong.
But the guy who said he got 125 is full of shit.



usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/l/blafqtscore.htm


Maybe he meant GT score?  That is the score everyone seems to care most about in the Marines.
1/21/2007 2:27:20 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Kangaroo what I was trying to say was that I remember that the composite scores were different for each branch.



Maybe so but the max is 99 regardless of branch.

Heres linky.

I dont know anything about Air Force but I did a bunch of research on the test awhile back, there were some questions in my petition thread. Some guy said a 96 barely qualified someone for infantry. (whichh is wrong)
I got a 96 and the top is 99.
The same test for all branches.
I have no idea about how air force would score differently.
I may be wrong.
But the guy who said he got 125 is full of shit.



usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/l/blafqtscore.htm


Maybe he meant GT score?  That is the score everyone seems to care most about in the Marines.


They let me shoot stuff and put torniquets on people. There were some people that definetly cheated to get. CRAZY CRAZY!!!

There was another medic in training, I told him that if I got hit to not render me aid as I would rather operate on myself or die.

Took the guy 4 times to pass CPR!! I couldn't believe that they were letting him through.

ETA: A longer heavy barrel does make the weapon more accurate. Try not to get your panties in a wad next time.
1/21/2007 2:48:48 AM EDT
[#39]
All I've read of this guys posts are the extracts posted here.

You could make a pretty good argument that a longer barrel can increase "shootability" and definitely enhances range.  Although I guess you are substantially correct about the inherent accuracy not really being a function of barrel length.

I never heard of a 16" twist, although I believe some very early rifles were 1/14" before 1/12" was adopted.

I could probably find a pretty could percentage of vets who don't remember the correct nomenclature of the DD214.

It is interesting that he consistently uses "are" when he means "our".

I was fascinated by the tales of shooting his .45 at 33 and 168 yards.  Is 168 some type of yard line used in silloutte or is that just a random number he pulled out of his ass?

All in all, I have to asses the subject as a mere garden variety idiot, not even remarkably idiotic, and very possibly a veteran of military service,
1/21/2007 3:36:10 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
snip
ETA: A longer heavy barrel does make the weapon more accurate. Try not to get your panties in a wad next time.


I don't agree with you on that, and here's why.  A longer barrel increases velocity! a heavy barrel may help slightly, but the weight trade off aint worth it in most cases.

Granted, at long ranges, the longer barrel's increased velocity will help. But, for most practical purposes (ie not caring about fragmentation and things of that sort), there is NO difference between a 16" and a 20" as far as poking holes in paper are concerned.


1/21/2007 3:40:26 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
All I've read of this guys posts are the extracts posted here.

You could make a pretty good argument that a longer barrel can increase "shootability" and definitely enhances range.  Although I guess you are substantially correct about the inherent accuracy not really being a function of barrel length.

I never heard of a 16" twist, although I believe some very early rifles were 1/14" before 1/12" was adopted.

I could probably find a pretty could percentage of vets who don't remember the correct nomenclature of the DD214.

It is interesting that he consistently uses "are" when he means "our".

I was fascinated by the tales of shooting his .45 at 33 and 168 yards.  Is 168 some type of yard line used in silloutte or is that just a random number he pulled out of his ass?

All in all, I have to asses the subject as a mere garden variety idiot, not even remarkably idiotic, and very possibly a veteran of military service,


In his idiot speak, "are" translates to "or". And, I didn't go into alot of detail as to why I believe he's a poser. Here's a short list.

1) He claims to be a former combat engineer who is smarter than albert einstin, related to alvin york, and can shoot a person dead with one shot at 168 yards with a 45.

2) He has claimed to have 3 MOSs only two of which were listed, because the third was a secret. He eventually coughed up that they "offered" him to be a cook.

3) For someone who spent 8 years in a "combat" MOS, he sure as fuck doesn't know a damn thing about guns, least of all the AR/M16 system. I could let it slide if he at LEAST was marginally familiar with that.

4) For such a hyper genius, he sure has a hard time spelling simple words and constructing readable sentences.

5) He gave numerous excuses as to why he couldn't or wouldn't give us a scan of his "DD212" never once did he ask me what a 212 is and why wasnt i interested in his dd214.


I can go on and on and on about this fuckstick. There's a thread in the higher levels of FAN forum that has a list of 30 something reasons why this guy is likely a fraud. I'll dig it up later.

1/21/2007 4:09:22 AM EDT
[#42]
I didn't post in either of those threads out of respect for Guns'N'Cockpit's request to let it settle, but Wade is a poser of the highest degree and needs to be outed everywhere.  He was never in the military, any branch, at any time.  If his IQ is 5 I'd be surprised.  If he's related to Alvin York it's because Mr. York jerked off in the field and what stuck to his last position was subsequently licked up by an insect who then crawled into a trailer trash snatch and made a nest.  

And folks, never let things like 212 versus 214 out of the bag.  We use little variations like that to oust posers because only real veterans are going to pick up on it - and Zack's plan was flawless and he outflanked him.  

You guys without level 1 access missed the posts by Wade another member found on a gaming website with his claims to fame.

One included jumping out of the back of a moving dumptruck with an M-60 and full combat gear and hit the road running.

His Martial Arts training allows him to execute a full roll on asphalt without ever scratching himself.

He can also combat roll on his forearm and launch himself into a full standing position, again without a scratch.

He cannot post his "DD212" because of his security clearance.

While his spelling is attrocious, his grammar is all but non-existant, and his attitude sucks in general, his major malfunction was not dropping it when Zack so suggested.  FAN has many, many vets, and the very vast majority of us are gun owners.  Wade simply picked the absolute wrong group of people to try and BS.

Oh, and don't forget he's going to sue y'all.  

BTW, a "secret" clearance in the military isn't jack, and once you've ETS'd you lose it.  There is nothing at all to stop someone from scanning their 214 and posting it on the 'Net.  Just black out the critical information.  

Zack my boy, ya done good.  I was rooting for you the whole way.
1/21/2007 4:18:10 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
*snipped out non essential stuff*

And folks, never let things like 212 versus 214 out of the bag.  We use little variations like that to oust posers because only real veterans are going to pick up on it - and Zack's plan was flawless and he outflanked him.  



He cannot post his "DD212" because of his security clearance.

While his spelling is attrocious, his grammar is all but non-existant, and his attitude sucks in general, his major malfunction was not dropping it when Zack so suggested.  FAN has many, many vets, and the very vast majority of us are gun owners.  Wade simply picked the absolute wrong group of people to try and BS.

Oh, and don't forget he's going to sue y'all.  

BTW, a "secret" clearance in the military isn't jack, and once you've ETS'd you lose it.  There is nothing at all to stop someone from scanning their 214 and posting it on the 'Net.  Just black out the critical information.  

Zack my boy, ya done good.  I was rooting for you the whole way.


My plan was flawless until it got crapped on. I had him right where i wanted him and he was none the wiser.

I offered him numerous opportunities to STFU and quit while he was ahead, but he declined and kept digging his hole deeper and deeper.

I myself had a clearance due to my job in the Navy (CTM) ((TS/SCIF))and while it's nothing to brag about, he picked the wrong guy to BS in that department too.

Thanks for the compliment Richard, I tried my best to get him to make an ass out of himself, without being too obvious about it.

I hope the higher ups in FAN realize what a shitbag this guy is and send him packing. I meant every word I said when I told them that if they admit him, I'd resign. By doing so, they would be disrespecting all our current and past members of the military. This guy is nothing but a slap in the face to ALL OF US.


Rant off.
1/21/2007 4:33:31 AM EDT
[#44]
I thought that by throwing the "Stolen Valor Act " in there that he'd shut up thinking he would be prosecuted. But in true idiot internet commando form he didnt fiugre that out either.
1/21/2007 4:34:20 AM EDT
[#45]
Well it took me a couple hours to read everything, including the stuff at "war rock" or what ever the heck that was.

I have not laughed so hard in such a long time ( at least a week ).

I really hate guys like that, and I love it when enough people gang up on those guys and shut them right down.


THANK YOU ARFCOM!!!


ETA:  Did you notice that post started with his 87th post?
1/21/2007 4:51:30 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
One guy says he got a 125 on his ASVAB.... top score is 99.


That I can actually believe...

I have met people IN the Army who get their GT and aggregate score mixed up....
1/21/2007 5:27:38 AM EDT
[#47]
Zack

You have a PM.  
1/21/2007 5:29:55 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
BTW, a "secret" clearance in the military isn't jack, and once you've ETS'd you lose it.  


I could be wrong, but I don't think you lose it. You'll get read off before you leave, but the clearance is still there. I know plenty of people who ETS and grab up a job because of their clearance.
1/21/2007 5:44:46 AM EDT
[#49]
IIRC  a clearance is good for 3 yrs.
1/21/2007 5:53:50 AM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
Zack

You have a PM.  


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