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1/12/2007 6:29:19 AM EDT
I just traded some renovations on a friend's house for a very nice Mini-14.  It is a 184 series, and seems more accurate than I am at this point.  I've not had it out to a range yet to see how it groups, but I can keep a soda can moving at 50 yards or so, so I am quite happy with it.

It is currently bone-stock, and in great shape.  There are only a few light wear marks on the stock, where it looks like it was put into a gun rack in a vehicle and bounced around a little.  Very small indentations in an otherwise beautiful stock.  I intend to try to make them less noticable by heating the stock, but that is another thread.

I'm looking for a good, sturdy folder for use as a home defense weapon.  To this point, I've been using my Keltec .32, as it was the most powerful weapon I owned.  I would prefer a side-folder, but I don't see why another type would be out of the question.  All of the ones I've found online with some searching appear to be of poor quality.  Can someone recommend a good manufacturer or website?
1/12/2007 6:32:25 AM EDT
[#1]
Cool you going to make an A-team special! Post pics when done!
1/12/2007 6:33:16 AM EDT
[#2]
The Butler Creek folder isn't bad for the money. I never cared for the factory folder myself.
1/12/2007 6:33:51 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
The Butler Creek folder isn't bad for the money. I never cared for the factory folder myself.


+1 The Butler Creek folder is very solid.
1/12/2007 6:38:01 AM EDT
[#4]
DOB 1979 low serial # gonna leave it as is



1/12/2007 6:39:16 AM EDT
[#5]
The BC is the best aftermarket option.

I prefer the factory folder myself.
1/12/2007 6:41:56 AM EDT
[#6]
That pic looks EXACTLY like mine, down to the front and rear sights.  

I am not going to do anything to the gun which would be a permanent change.  I can always put the original stock back on the gun when I've moved on to a different HD gun.  

A-Team or not, my goal is to make it shorter so I can move around my house more easily.  As a side effect, I'd like for libs to wet themselves at the sight of it.
1/12/2007 6:43:08 AM EDT
[#7]
Does Tapco have an AR-Style collapsing stock for this gun yet?


And the recoil is so light, you could easily shoot it from the hip to achieve A-Team accuracy qualifications.
1/12/2007 6:43:52 AM EDT
[#8]
You may want to consider chopping the barrel back to 14.5 inches and permanently attaching a muzzle device.
1/12/2007 6:49:55 AM EDT
[#9]
Would like to chop the barrel, but this gun is to remain as it came from the factory.  No permanent modifications.  

I've got my sights on an AR for that, and this gun will be put back into its original stock and once again be a deer slayer.  I've never had a deer run when shot from a .223 --- shot placement > penetration, and light recoil means a very quick follow-up if needed.
1/12/2007 6:52:24 AM EDT
[#10]
Ha!  How about a bullpup?

Bullpup @ FGW

Any experience?
1/12/2007 6:52:53 AM EDT
[#11]
The wood stock is crap.  It is loose, and that is a big part of the "inaccuracy problem" of the Mini-14.  

The Butler Creek is an excellent stock, fits tightly, and makes for a more accurate rifle.  another good stock is the Choate E2 Pistol Grip.  It is not a folder, but fits tightly, and the pistol grip is more ergonomic.  Choate also has a folder, but the buttstock is too long in my opinion.  I have had all three of these stocks, and the Choate Pistol Grip is the one I like best.  I like the Choate handguard better than the Ruger one, too.

The difference in accuracy is significant.  Changing from the wood stock to any of the above synthetic stocks will immediately change a 4-6 MOA rifle to a 2 MOA rifle.

Sometimes the rear sight blade is loose, noticably wiggles.  Disassemble and put a small soft rubber O-ring under it, reassemble and adjust.

Some years back I traded off my blued Mini's for stainless Ranch Rifles.  This is the Choate E2 Pistol Grip Stock:



and this is Choate's in camo:

1/12/2007 6:59:02 AM EDT
[#12]
Bullpup=CRAP. Don't waste your money. I had the bbl on my Mini chopped to 16" and threaded to 1/2x28 to take AR muzzle devices. If you are interested I might recommend chopping it to 14.5" and perm-ing a phantom, A2, etc.
1/12/2007 7:00:10 AM EDT
[#13]
I have a factory folding stock sitting in my closet.
1/12/2007 4:37:58 PM EDT
[#14]
Other than the bad trigger, is there anything else wrong with a bullpup?  Does it fit tightly, and hold a zero, as the sights are now part of the stock?
1/12/2007 5:45:35 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
I have a factory folding stock sitting in my closet.


Are you selling it?  How much?  Blued or stainless?
1/13/2007 3:37:00 AM EDT
[#16]
This isn't EE!.

(In other words, I already emailed him! :)
1/13/2007 3:42:15 AM EDT
[#17]
Blued.

I took it off and put a full stock on it for deer hunting, and it has been sitting in the closet ever since. I may put it up on ebay if that is legal.


O.K., I just looked on ebay and there is one identical to it for sale. The bidding is up to $512.00
So I guess that is legal.


Why so much for a folding stock like that?  Because it is factory original? Not made any more?

ouch!





1/13/2007 3:42:54 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The Butler Creek folder isn't bad for the money. I never cared for the factory folder myself.


+1 The Butler Creek folder is very solid.
yup very good
1/13/2007 3:49:33 AM EDT
[#19]
$500+?  

Nevermind, have at it.  What in the world is so special about it?!  I could have one fabricated for that price.
1/13/2007 3:56:17 AM EDT
[#20]
I don't understand why either, his looks just like mine.



1/13/2007 3:58:29 AM EDT
[#21]
Here is the other stock auction.

I might be sitting on a small gold mine.


1/13/2007 4:23:07 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
I don't understand why either, his looks just like mine.






You can find the blued factory folders for $250 - $300 or so with the stainless usually going for a little more. It's as high as it is because it's eBay. Most of the people bidding on it probably don't go to many gun boards or haven't seen what the going rate for them are.

Also, notice that he says that one is brand new never mounted on a gun. That's great if you're going to put it in a closet and never use it so you can try to sell it for more later but if you're going to use it on an old well used guy you might as well buy an old well used stock to go on it.
1/13/2007 4:30:12 AM EDT
[#23]
I think he said the guard was unused, not the stock.

1/13/2007 4:36:11 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
I think he said the guard was unused, not the stock.




Ahhh...you're right. It's still a pretty clean looking stock. I wouldn't pay $500 for it though

Factory folders are the best folding stocks for them though. The aftermarket ones are crap.
1/13/2007 4:56:32 AM EDT
[#25]
I just dug mine out of the closet....it looks to be in even better shape than his..........going on ebay today for sure.


I could use the money with a gun show coming up soon
1/13/2007 5:00:32 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
The Butler Creek folder isn't bad for the money. I never cared for the factory folder myself.


I have the BC on my Mini-14. It works pretty well, locks up solidly, provides a good rest. It doesnt impact the magazine or anything else critical when folded, either.
1/13/2007 11:24:41 AM EDT
[#27]
I know I'll catch flak for this, but I'm SERIOUSLY considering a Muzzelite bullpup.  Yes, its poser-ish, and yes, it looks a bit ghey, but by reducing the gun to a OAL of 26.5", it makes for a much more effective weapon.  If I ever use this gun for hunting, it will in in dense woods or brush - and a bullpup on a 3-point sling would make for effective handling and fast "draw".

All I need now is to get my hands on one to see the quality.  Muzzelite is the only one I can find, and it looks fien in pictures, but in person is always a different story.
1/13/2007 1:33:01 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Ha!  How about a bullpup?

Bullpup @ FGW

Any experience?


God-awful trigger.
1/13/2007 9:14:51 PM EDT
[#29]
Well, I got to put another 50 rnds downrange today with my mini, which is still in the original stock.

I really don't see this gun as innaccurate.  It certainly meets my criteria.  I DO wish I could find a flesh-and-blood copy of that bullpup.
1/13/2007 9:17:44 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The Butler Creek folder isn't bad for the money. I never cared for the factory folder myself.


+1 The Butler Creek folder is very solid.


Add my vote to that.
1/13/2007 9:21:01 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
I know I'll catch flak for this, but I'm SERIOUSLY considering a Muzzelite bullpup.  Yes, its poser-ish, and yes, it looks a bit ghey, but by reducing the gun to a OAL of 26.5", it makes for a much more effective weapon.  If I ever use this gun for hunting, it will in in dense woods or brush - and a bullpup on a 3-point sling would make for effective handling and fast "draw".

All I need now is to get my hands on one to see the quality.  Muzzelite is the only one I can find, and it looks fien in pictures, but in person is always a different story.


Don't do it.
1/13/2007 9:26:39 PM EDT
[#32]
I hereby do solemnly pledge not to purchase a bullpup stock of any kind for this weapon, without first inspecting one in person.


Good enough?
1/13/2007 9:35:52 PM EDT
[#33]
I sold my factory folder Mini-14 stock on Egay last year...and got my account locked for 3 months because the auction was a "banned item"

PS: I'll be surprised if the auction listed above doesn't get pulled before the end.