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12/14/2006 10:29:49 AM EDT
Legitimate question for real security guards. I'm applying for a security job to at least tie me over until I find better work. For the area, it isn't horrific pay - but it's not great either. Probably just wearing a uniform and carrying a notepad I imagine. No enforcement powers and this is NOT salary. Keep in mind - this is probably a 6 or 8 hour shift of menial wages in a car with a yellow blinky light.

That said, I have an interview on Monday. Many classes on interviews suggest you have a "suit with a high thread count and matching brass accessories". Which is clearly ridiculous for a job that pays less then $10 an hour. But work is good - and while I aim to get a decent federal job - I need something to keep me busy - rather then sit on unemployment when my military terminal leave runs out in a few weeks.  

I think its ridiculous to run out and buy a suit which I'll rarely if ever wear. Maybe a nice dress shirt, tie, and Khaki pants for an interview. A 3 piece suit seems overkill to me though.

 Any thoughts from former, or current, security guards? Anyone else have ideas on how to dress for non-salary jobs?
12/14/2006 10:38:39 AM EDT
[#1]
If you aren't wearing gang colors, you're better than half the applicants I've had to deal with.

Truthfully, a shirt and tie, khakis, and a clean jacket over it is good enough.  A nicely pressed suit, well polished shoes, a haircut, and fresh breath are the way to go if you intend to apply for a management position.  Have your resume in a folder so it doesn't get wrinkled or smudged before handing it to them.  Have it handy, even if you already turned one in to them.

Frankly, though, I have seen some real losers come in to interview, just so they can tell their unemployment counselor they were there, with absolutely no intention of taking the job.  And a good number of those WERE wearing gang colors.

A good attitude will get you the job, no matter how you're dressed.  Just be pressed, clean, and go easy on the cologne.

Good luck.
12/14/2006 10:39:59 AM EDT
[#2]
<$10/hr = no Armani.  You'll be dressed better than your interviewer.  Dress nice but don't go out and buy a suit that will take you two weeks to pay off if you get the job.  Probably be OK with just nice clean slacks shirt and a tie.
12/14/2006 10:40:52 AM EDT
[#3]
Just show up take the are you braindead test and ask when do I   start.
12/14/2006 10:58:40 AM EDT
[#4]
If you really want the job, make an effort to look like you do.

I would not buy a suit, but slacks, shirt & tie and a sports coat will go a long way in saying you have pride in your appearance.  This would also indicate you might also have pride in the work you do.

A dark blue sports coat works with a lot of different shirts & ties.  A good start in case you need to do a "coat & tie" thing.
12/14/2006 11:00:02 AM EDT
[#5]
My first job interview I went to (16 yrs old), my mom told me to wear my suit. I got the job, the guy wearing a t-shirt and jeans that had the interview after me was also in my training class.

For this kind of job, shirt with a collar and some slacks would cut it, as long as you can form complete sentences and can show common sense.

IMO, if you wear a suit to an interview for regular security, interviewer might assume you want to be billy badass bodyguard carrying bear mace, and would be more of a liability when you draw down on a todler for spilling his drink.

Don't overcompensate by dressing up, it honestly doesn't take much to impress most interviewers these days.
12/14/2006 11:02:41 AM EDT
[#6]
Shirt, tie, slacks.
12/14/2006 11:04:07 AM EDT
[#7]
 Wear a collared shirt, some khaki dress pants and Class A shoes and
be on time and you'll  make the final pick. Dont forget your
orders to show at the interview if you dont have a DD214 yet.
12/14/2006 11:08:16 AM EDT
[#8]
You don't need a sports coat.

Its questionable if you should wear a tie.

Pressed slacks and a shirt and matching shoes/belt.
12/14/2006 11:17:04 AM EDT
[#9]
ACUs, tactical vest and a drop leg holster with an airsoft glock.  Also, a camo bandana might help convey the message that, "hey bro, I'm mall ninja material all the way."



Always present yourself as a professional.  Whether you're interviewing for Waffle House parking lot patrol or an instructor's slot at Langley.  
12/14/2006 11:27:40 AM EDT
[#10]
 Thanks for all the feedback thus far. As of now, my plan is to pick up a nice dress shirt and tie that'll match my khaki pants. That and polish up my shoes. I think I'll pass on wearing Class A military shoes though - I've got a somewhat dressy black pair of Sketchers that I can spit polish. I may get a haircut too - but not a high and tight (never again). Just trimmed up some around the ears and neck for a more groomed appearance.
12/14/2006 11:59:28 AM EDT
[#11]
If you have a Marshalls or a TJ Max in your area, you can get a decent suit for cheap.  First impressions go a long way and anything to give you an edge over the competition can only help you.
12/14/2006 12:07:54 PM EDT
[#12]
I interview hundreds of people, but every interviewer is different, I am a stickler for appearance.

For the job you are applying for I suggest the following:

Everything should be CLEAN and IRONED!

  • Button-down shirt with a collar.

  • Clean, shined, shoes. No gym shoes or sneakers.

  • Tie. Make sure it matches! The tip of the tie should rest on the top of your belt buckle.

  • A portfolio binder for copies of your resume. Wal-Mart has nice ones. Keep it simple - brown or black.

  • Buy a pen that costs more than $1 for 100. Ball point is fine, something a little nicer than a Bic. Also available at Wal-Mart.

  • NO GUM CHEWING!

  • A clean, neat haircut. Something simple.

  • Trim your beard/mustache if you wear one.



That should cover you pretty well for 90% of all interviews you go on.

Av.
12/14/2006 12:40:55 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I interview hundreds of people, but every interviewer is different, I am a stickler for appearance.

For the job you are applying for I suggest the following:

Everything should be CLEAN and IRONED!

  • Button-down shirt with a collar.

  • Clean, shined, shoes. No gym shoes or sneakers.

  • Tie. Make sure it matches! The tip of the tie should rest on the top of your belt buckle.

  • A portfolio binder for copies of your resume. Wal-Mart has nice ones. Keep it simple - brown or black.

  • Buy a pen that costs more than $1 for 100. Ball point is fine, something a little nicer than a Bic. Also available at Wal-Mart.

  • NO GUM CHEWING!

  • A clean, neat haircut. Something simple.

  • Trim your beard/mustache if you wear one.



That should cover you pretty well for 90% of all interviews you go on.

Av.


Thanks for your input. Given the nature of the job, I'd assume appearance and one's demeanor are important factors for the interview. Good advice and duly noted.
12/14/2006 3:16:28 PM EDT
[#14]
I wore khakis and a dress shirt to an interview for the same kinda job (weekend work while finishing college).  Got the job easily, and since I had a work ethic (didn't go park the security car and sleep) and actually showed up on time/at all I was probably one of their best employees...

It's a crappy job though IMO, they'll probably eventually move you to a permanent position like security at a big plant or something after a while if it's like the company I worked for (Security Forces, Inc), and that's not as bad as the security car/truck driving.  
12/14/2006 3:54:15 PM EDT
[#15]
Go with the above advice (posting from the guardshack).

btw, I am making more as an hourly guard than I did as a salaried 401(k) administrator for less hours and no stress. Good times!
12/14/2006 3:57:38 PM EDT
[#16]
i agree with the others just dont look like a scumbag and you will be fine.

12/14/2006 4:34:27 PM EDT
[#17]
You're on leave, so you're still in so wear your Class B's.
12/14/2006 8:29:54 PM EDT
[#18]
Business casual. Good pair of khaki slacks and a polo shirt should be more than enough for that type of interview. Just don't forget to iron them before heading out!
12/18/2006 9:11:01 AM EDT
[#19]
Thanks for all the advice. Interview went well and the HR guy was a veteran too . I wore khaki Dockers, a blue dress shirt, Class A shoes, and matching tie. I got a decent haircut and shaved too (my face - you weirdos). I wasn't chewing gum and avoided any type of cologne. Not sure if all that mattered - this place is probably used to seeing mostly college students and people already on unemployment. I have a conditional offer of full time employment and have already tried on uniforms. Just waiting on a background check - that's the only thing I'm waiting on before the training. I mentioned my security clearance too - maybe it'll help out with this job or similar work.

 Looks like I may be working in a hospital starting out. Guard crazies and dead people - woot Happy that I have work lined up though - one tends to get complacent in the military when it comes to job security. Most of the work is in the $10 an hour range - if I stick with this long term, there are some better opportunities that pay around $16 or so. Still have my eyes set on applying for the Post Office - but it all went well for now.

Again - thank you arfcom for all the help.
12/18/2006 9:15:15 AM EDT
[#20]
I haven't read all the advice.  I hire 4-8 people a year in the wage range you are looking at.

1. Neat appearance.  Trim beard/moustache if applicable.  Hair trimmed

2.  Slacks. buttondown shirt tie ( jacket optional)

3. Be enthusiastic.

nuff said

ETA- nothing like giving advice after the fact  
12/18/2006 9:22:14 AM EDT
[#21]
Congrats!