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11/22/2006 12:32:30 PM EDT
dont we have some kind of implant chip or something to plant in them. then send them home, turn on tracking device and bomb them and more others. or use them to hunt down others or something? i mean come on isnt this the 21st century?
11/22/2006 12:40:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Good idea but wouldn't that violate their rights or something? I am no lawyer so I am sure they would come up with something much more flowerly than this.
11/22/2006 12:42:47 PM EDT
[#2]
Or we could just kill them while they're in jail and save the time and money.
11/22/2006 12:43:40 PM EDT
[#3]
criminals and US citizens id be worried about their rights. but terrorists and illegal combatants, fuck em.
11/22/2006 12:46:02 PM EDT
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criminals and US citizens id be worried about their rights. but terrorists and illegal combatants, fuck em.


So, you're saying we should just kill them even if they surrender?
11/22/2006 12:53:17 PM EDT
[#5]
well actually i was thinkin use them for bait for bigger fish. im talkin about after they are convicted of their crimes.
11/22/2006 1:45:26 PM EDT
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criminals and US citizens id be worried about their rights. but terrorists and illegal combatants, fuck em.


So, you're saying we should just kill them even if they surrender?
That may not be what he is saying, but it is exactly what should happen.

IIRC, even the Geneva Convention has provisions for executing illegal combatants.  
11/23/2006 8:51:54 AM EDT
[#7]
is there any reason why this isnt possible? using them as bait to catch bigger fish?
11/23/2006 9:12:09 AM EDT
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criminals and US citizens id be worried about their rights. but terrorists and illegal combatants, fuck em.


So, you're saying we should just kill them even if they surrender?
That may not be what he is saying, but it is exactly what should happen.

IIRC, even the Geneva Convention has provisions for executing illegal combatants.  


Yes it certainly does; those POS's in Camp X-Ray are to be treated as spies and summarily executed.

They do not identify with any national army, wear no uniform, fight under no flag, hide amongst the civilian populous, flagrantly violate proper POW handling procedures, murder innocent non-combatants, etc...  

More importantly, even if they adhered to the Law of Land Warfare, they are not members of the select few signatory nations, meaning they are not to be afforded any of the protections outlined in the applicable conventions/accords.  The said provisions are only intended for conflicts between nations who are a party to the conventions/accords.

Last I checked, the Taliban and al-Qaeda didn't sign those treaties.

EDIT: spelling.
11/23/2006 9:15:28 AM EDT
[#9]
exactly, so drug em, stick a tracking bug in them somehow, follow them back to their buddies and kill or capture more of them. show them we have technology and we arent afraid to use it.
11/23/2006 9:20:04 AM EDT
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dont we have some kind of implant chip or something to plant in them. then send them home, turn on tracking device and bomb them and more others. or use them to hunt down others or something? i mean come on isnt this the 21st century?
Why would you do such a thing to Cuban exiles residing in Gitmo?
11/23/2006 4:33:11 PM EDT
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criminals and US citizens id be worried about their rights. but terrorists and illegal combatants, fuck em.
So, you're saying we should just kill them even if they surrender?
Nah, we should get as much intel out of them as we can, then feed 'em to the sharks.
11/23/2006 4:36:11 PM EDT
[#12]
They were all lost in a tragic boating accident....
11/23/2006 4:46:38 PM EDT
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A trusted source told me that the average Gitmo detainee has gained 26lbs since arriving at the prison.  Torture, indeed.

11/23/2006 4:47:06 PM EDT
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criminals and US citizens id be worried about their rights. but terrorists and illegal combatants, fuck em.


So, you're saying we should just kill them even if they surrender?
That may not be what he is saying, but it is exactly what should happen.

IIRC, even the Geneva Convention has provisions for executing illegal combatants.  


Yes it certainly does; those POS's in Camp X-Ray are to be treated as spies and summarily executed.

They do not identify with any national army, wear no uniform, fight under no flag, hide amongst the civilian populous, flagrantly violate proper POW handling procedures, murder innocent non-combatants, etc...  

More importantly, even if they adhered to the Law of Land Warfare, they are not members of the select few signatory nations, meaning they are not to be afforded any of the protections outlined in the applicable conventions/accords.  The said provisions are only intended for conflicts between nations who are a party to the conventions/accords.

Last I checked, the Taliban and al-Qaeda didn't sign those treaties.

EDIT: spelling.


Exactly Right.
11/23/2006 4:57:02 PM EDT
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Yes it certainly does; those POS's in Camp X-Ray are to be treated as spies and summarily executed.


We know with a certainty that some people ended up at Gitmo who had nothing to do with anything terror related, but were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.  I've got no problem with executing terrorists, but there needs to be a legitimate trial where evidence is examined, and someone speaks on behalf of the accused.  If the government's evidence isn't sufficient to stand up to the "give them a trial in front of an impartial judge" criteria, then we don't have sufficient evidence to start executing.



More importantly, even if they adhered to the Law of Land Warfare, they are not members of the select few signatory nations, meaning they are not to be afforded any of the protections outlined in the applicable conventions/accords.  The said provisions are only intended for conflicts between nations who are a party to the conventions/accords.


This isn't about the Geneva conventions, it's about doing the right thing.  If we have legitimate evidence that is sufficient to demonstrate that these guys are terrorists, then torture away, and kill them when you are done.  If there's insufficient evidence, then they should be treated humanely until we either get enough evidence to torture and kill them or we let them go.