Posted: 11/7/2006 7:58:20 PM EDT
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Will they figure out that we were serious about the smaller government thing? That letting ted kennedy write no child left behind was a mistake? That they were supossed to be the party of balanced budgets and cuts in spending? I am kinda glad the democrats one simply because I voted republican hoping for them to do something right. They failed miserably. The country didn't elect democrats, they kicked republicans out. The democrats did nothing but let the press hammer the republicans and not offer ANYTHING but cut and run. If the republicans learn, this may be a great moment. If they fail, well fuck em. |
+100 Million $s. They will likely 'learn' that they need to do a better job appealing to the moderates, the centerists, the 'undecideds' going forward in order to strip away at the DNC's base. They will likely continue to count the conservatives as a constant and not in need of any type of meaningful representation. Afterall, conservatives don't get you into office, they only get you close enough to be competitive at chasing after the middle and going left. |
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I don't like to see it, but maybe the hardest lessons to learn are the ones that make the biggest impact. Now many republicans will see just how badly they've fucked up in the past few years. I truly hope that not one of the defeated republicans ever holds office again. They are FAILURES. I want 2008 to start with a fresh crop of republicans who haven't been indoctrinated into the usual way of doing business in congress, which seems to be to ignore the wishes of the people. CJ |
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I guarantee you...I GUARAN-FUCKING-TEE you that the message from this election that the Republicans will take away is: "This is what we get for pushing too far to the right!" Especially since the House passed a bill to build a fence, make illegals into felons and killed the Senate's amnesty bill. They will walk away with the message that they lost because they were too conservative and too hawkish. |
EXACTLY!! FoxNews reporting from the White House: White House spokesman Tony Snow reacted to the change in House control by allowing they're disappointed, but that it presents some intriguing opportunities, such as passing comprehensive immigration reform which failed in the previous Republican House. |
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No, the message is, "This is what we get for thinking we can get away with anything we fucking please and counting on the American public to be dazed, sleeping sheeple." Politicians do not -- can not -- learn, otherwise one party or the other would wise up and find a way to stay in power election after election. They're all the same schmuck. The only thing you get to choose is how you get fucked and by whom. Moving on ... I'm proud to have elicited enough venomous responses to my "Your Ass Handed To You" thread to get it locked. Thank you, you lovable, laughable, utterly predictable ARFtards.  Speaking of which: Motown, what is the new total number of biting, stinging bugs up your butt at this very moment? Gotta be some kinda record. Your Friendly Neighborhood DU Libtard Troll (PAUSE) NOT.  |
Fence? What about a real secure border?? Not a symbol. Too hawkish?? All the pussy footing going on in Iraq and they're Hawkish?? I called for carpet bombing a long time ago and was told I knew not of what I speak of. The Republicans lost, because they are Democrats. The two parties are the same. Yes, one wants to take your right to a gun, and the other wants to take your right to suck another mans dick. But they are both big government, tax and spend, do anything to keep each other on the ticket. Because as long as it's just them, who cares what the song ithe voters request, because they control the dance floor. |
Sylvan I think you need to go back to your learning center. I mean what mistake did the Republicans make, we ousted a regime bent on our destruction that was courting nuclear scientists from Pakistan and donating money to groups whom were training to destroy us. I refuse to blame Republicans for what the Liberal Media dictated as part of it's get your wellfair check, busline tick, and anti-Bush vote out. Now we can pull our troops out of there and show the world that an aggressor need not win to turn the soft belly of America into a cowardice country. And what are you talking about with Ted Kennedy's, "No Passenger Left Behind" story, who gives a fuck about that drunk piece of shit. Sorry I don't blame Republicans when an entire media is biased against them. |
Yeah, Chaffme got outed in a blue state because he was the only Republican running. DeWine got punished along with half a dozen conservatives in Ohio. Allen is REAL close to getting beat, Talent is real close to getting beat, Santorum got beat, Harris got beat and Steele got beat. These were all conservatives and hawks. And the worst punishment was in the House. 20 Republicans lost, most of them in the northeast. Why did the hawks lose in the Senate? Why did Republicans get punished in the liberal northeast? Because they were too liberal? Why did Chaffeme lose in Rhode Island, but Hutchinson won in Texas? Because the Republicans were too liberal? No, the message is: "This is what we get for pushing too far to th right!" Take that to the bank! |
This makes as much sense as shooting yourself through the head to hit the enemy behind you. |
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If only that asshole McCain was on the ballot. I wonder if he would have been sucessfully voted out. Apparently he's now saying that the republicans' weak showing in the polls is partially because of the war in Iraq.  God, I hope he's not the republican presidential candidate. |
I'm not celebrating anything, I'm just taking this opportunity to laugh at you. I have no doubt things will get much worse -- they always do in politics. I just don't fool myself into thinking any of it means anything. It's a giant game of cruel and futile contradiction, played out every four and eight years, and every four and eight years half the country gets screwed BIG TIME. |
Given how fast they went from a night like this of their own in 1994 to "We just said we'd vote on these things, we didn't say we'd pass any of them" (and so on til today,) I'm going to have to hope to be pleasantly surprised to see the Republicans learn. I'm also hoping for the Democrats to go full-on Nancy Pelosi. There's probably enough of them thinking that's what people were voting for to increase the potential for another 1994. |
Dude, it doesn't matter how conservative or liberal a Republican was tonight, it only mattered that he or she was a "Republican." That was enough reason for voters to wax them. How else to you explain "anti-war" Republicans losing in "anti-war" states? Or "conservative" Republicans losing in "conservative" states? This is our 1994. |
I just posted the same thing in another thread with the addition that I doubt the Reps in "08" will be worth voting for. I'm a man without representation in my government. |
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You're all missing the more important issue here. This isn't about left - right, GOP- Dem pissing contests. With the Dems in control of the house, they can bring the war to a total, grinding halt by cutting funding, and there is fuck all anyone can do about it. The jihadis have been aiming to do this to us since back in '93 when they saw it could work. They knew most of the western media would do their part to keep up the steady drumbeat of defeatism, and that the political left would sell us all out for short term benefit. Now, years of IED's, sniper attacks, kidnappings, and head choppings have paid off for them. This war is over. It's still possible that the Iraqi gov't could make it on their own, but even if they do this is a clearcut defeat for us. The jihadis have just shown that the western world cannot get its shit together. |
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i think the_mccallan made a good point in another thread when he cursed some people for being concerned only with "holy shit, dems will take my guns. vote republican". idiots. this will offend many of you, but being republican is more than the right to shoot guns on your assbag 40 acres of scrub brush in shithole county. it's this type of uneducated dumbasses in the party that fucked this up. many of you, MANY OF YOU, stood in the kool-aid line and concerned yourselves only with gay-marriage bans, gun laws, stem cell and terry schiavo while letting shit like runaway spending, no-bid iraq graft and corruption, the patriot act, etc. go on. you allowed cunnngham, ney, and foley to feel they can do what they did and get away with it. fucking ney pleads guilty and then had the fucking nerve to refuse to resign and no outrage here about that? how bad that was right before the election? you made it easy for the dems to stand back the past 3 years and say "hey, we're not repubs" and watch the party implode. this party had it all. HAD IT ALL!!!!! and it couldn't govern itself and the country justly and wisely. now the party is buried through 2008 and beyond. repub pres taking the oath in '09? not likely. this country is worse off now not because the dems are gonna lock-up every piece of legislation coming down the pike. it is worse off because of the "my bible is my armor and jesus is my rifle" twats in the party. THIS PARTY HAD IT ALL!!!!! I CAN SAY WITH 100% CONFIDENCE THAT I DIDN'T FUCK THIS UP. SOMEBODY ELSE DID FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS. and yes, you deserve the blame because i, like many others, voted today feeling like dead man walking. |
No there's clearly one man to blame. The man who failed to lead his party to... anywhere. |
Me too. Bush can finally use his veto, and it will help keep the Republican edge sharp. Most of the problem in recent years was with no opposition to their ideology, they really didn't HAVE to do anything. |
Join the club. I voted against my state's Dem candidates and still got my ass handed to me. I had one, singular Republican I actually wanted to vote for, and he lost because he chose the most liberal part of AR to try to be state rep. I am not a Republican, and hold no love for neo-con spend-spend-spend religious ideologue anti-privacy facists. But I someday hope that the party will take a cue from the Republican Liberty Caucus (which I am seriously considering joining instead of the LP) and get back to the roots it was founded on. Anyone know a good Necromancer with which I can resurect Barry Goldwater? 
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No, not a defeat at all. Iraq was misdirection from the outset and yes, the deaths so far have essentially been for nothing. That is George W. Bush's horrific legacy. Do you propose prolonging the war simply to give all the deaths to date meaning? Where does it end, then? What ultimate outcome -- on Iraqi soil (sand) -- will have been worth the losses? The "War On Terror" is not a territorial, ground-based conflict. Short of genocide there is no way to defeat an enemy that has no single homeland and values its own life less than its enemy's death. Utterly tragic, I'm afraid, but true. |
Barry must be turning in his grave. Here's why Republican candidates got the boot: 1. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld mismanaged the war, miserably. Americans hate a long war. 2. Stem cell research - You or I might be next to get Parkinsons. I want a cure and I don't care how many stem cells must die to get it. Oh, and lets make Republicans look even worse and make sure everyone in the country is reminded of it by calling Michael J. Fox a fraud. 3. Patriot act - Lots of people realize tomorrow it could be them getting a mid night knock on the door with a warrant from some secret court. 4. Most Americans aren't fans of torture, no matter who's doing it and for whatever reason. 5. Secret wire taps without court orders. Its just plain wrong. This is still America. 6, Borrow and spend. Yeah, the Iraqis were supposed to pay for the war with oil revenues, not my grand children. Any two would have been enough for serious problems. Such arrogance seldom goes unpunished in this country. |
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Republicans have gotten too fat and lazy and deserved to lose leadership of the House and hopefully the Senate as well. Unfortunately, this is the only way for the party to shape up. Spending has been way out of control. The role of Congress in the Constitution is to serve as the check and balance to the president. Had they done their jobs and asked more questions and demanded more answers we wouldn't be in this mess. |
Explain this to me then... The Republican controlled House of Representitives passed a bill which among other things would have made illegal aliens prosecutable as felons and built a fence on the border. When the Senate passed an amnesty bill the Republican Speaker of the House killed that bill by refusing to hold compromise hearings to work out the differences. The House then passed a second bill to build a fence on the border and this time the Senate and President conceded to pressure to pass and sign this bill. If immigration was the reason that the Republicans were punished, then why did the House of Representitives lose more than 20 seats in the House...primarily in the very liberal northeast? Republicans in border states and conservative states did well for the most part. Hell, the Republicans GAINED two House seats in Georgia! The Republicans lost because they were "too hawkish" and they pushed too far to the right. That is the message that they will take. This was a referendum on the war, the Bush tax cuts, Republican judicial nominees, etc. That is the message that the Republicans will take away tonight. |
The current batch of Republicans aren't going to learn shit.
 Doug McIntyre said it rather well:
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LOL. The Dems have the House and might take the Senate in this off-year election cycle. Remember the last time both the House and the Senate changed hands and the party in the White House lost both majorities in an off-year election? 1994. But I'm just a liberal, right? You guys are pathetic. |