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11/1/2006 4:54:59 AM EDT
I searched for this and could not find anything:

1.  How would one go about building a decent shelter/gunsafe without having folks know about it? i.e. are company's cool with losing contract paperwork for the right price?  I would love to have a walk-in gunsafe that is semi-hidden, but I know I couldn't do the work myself....

2.  If it ever came to the powers that be running through your yard with a metal detector; what can you outline a case with that will make your gear undetectable to metal detectors and/or ground penetrating radar?

3.  How do you properly store guns/ammo in the ground?  I have seen those big metal cases from mil-surp stores but they just don't look sturdy enough to withstand years of being buried?

4.  Where are some other good undetectable places to store weapons?
11/1/2006 4:56:59 AM EDT
[#1]
The day you need to bury your guns is the day you need to dig them up and use them
11/1/2006 5:07:33 AM EDT
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Quoted:
The day you need to bury your guns is the day you need to dig them up and use them


+1

Well Said.
11/1/2006 5:07:53 AM EDT
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Quoted:
The day you need to bury your guns is the day after you should haved used them


+1 Fight4yourrights,

I just modified you sentiments a tad to express my view on the topic.
11/1/2006 5:08:38 AM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
The day you need to bury your guns is the day after you should haved used them


+1 Fight4yourrights,

I just modified you sentiments a tad to express my view on the topic.



I like that
11/1/2006 5:12:22 AM EDT
[#5]
well, to just help the OP:

1) you can't defeat Groun Pentrating Radar, they'll see SOMETHING underground.

2) oops i violated OPSEC and am taking this off voluntarily

3) see above

sorry, best help i can give you is bury them where they won't be looking

ETA oopsie
11/1/2006 5:15:01 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
2.  If it ever came to the powers that be running through your yard with a metal detector


Good God!  The loon balls are out!
11/1/2006 5:17:47 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I searched for this and could not find anything:


You didn't try hard enough.


1.  How would one go about building a decent shelter/gunsafe without having folks know about it? i.e. are company's cool with losing contract paperwork for the right price?  I would love to have a walk-in gunsafe that is semi-hidden, but I know I couldn't do the work myself....

Lots of options. Depends on your budget. Start here:
www.saferoom.com/hidden_bookcase_doors.htm
www.garymkatz.com/Charts/pivot-bookcase.htm
www.hideadoor.com/
www.spacexdoors.com/index.htm
www.hiddendoors.com/home.asp

Thats for if you want on-going access to your stuff. Burying it is a whole 'nother deal.


2.  If it ever came to the powers that be running through your yard with a metal detector; what can you outline a case with that will make your gear undetectable to metal detectors and/or ground penetrating radar?


I am no scientist, but from what I understand, what you ask is impossible, if they have the right gear. If we are just talking metal detectors, theres talk about spreading scrap metal above your stash...but the gear out there can be more sophisticated than just that.


3.  How do you properly store guns/ammo in the ground?  I have seen those big metal cases from mil-surp stores but they just don't look sturdy enough to withstand years of being buried?


Look into those plastic septic tanks ( new and unused, of course) . The weapons themselves can be stored in something like this:

www.shomer-tec.com/site/product.cfm?id=99884738-E8B4-58E6-BCC015EDF4AAB902


4.  Where are some other good undetectable places to store weapons?


Limited only by your imagination.
11/1/2006 5:21:02 AM EDT
[#8]
Not to hijack your thread, but could you give me any possible reason for burying your firearms in the ground?
11/1/2006 5:21:17 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I searched for this and could not find anything:

1.  How would one go about building a decent shelter/gunsafe without having folks know about it? i.e. are company's cool with losing contract paperwork for the right price?  I would love to have a walk-in gunsafe that is semi-hidden, but I know I couldn't do the work myself....even if they "lose" the paperwork,you still have the individuals who did the work.doing it yourself is the only viable secure option,imo.
ETA-unless you kill everyone who did the work after they are done (like when they buried Egyptian kings),then you wouldn't have any worries.I'm kidding of course.Or am I?
2.  If it ever came to the powers that be running through your yard with a metal detector; what can you outline a case with that will make your gear undetectable to metal detectors and/or ground penetrating radar?bury lots of metal all over the place.don't bury anything possibly illegal on your property.depending on the scenario,you may not have access to your property-hence burying some at alternate locations.

3.  How do you properly store guns/ammo in the ground?  I have seen those big metal cases from mil-surp stores but they just don't look sturdy enough to withstand years of being buried?PVC pipe works good.glue a cap on one end and a screw on cap on the other with silicone to seal it.From experience,did a hole bigger than your pipe and insert a piece of plastic drain pipe,THEN put in your pvc pipe-it will make it a lot easier to get out.I use a post hole digger and put them a couple feet below the surface.I put everything in ziplock bags and the weapons go in treated sacks and in plastic long gun staorage bags-no issues with rust or corrosion.I also put other odds and ends in there (money,power bars,socks,etc..)





The best way to keep a secret is when only you know about it.

As for the other comments about burying them being time to dig them up-I agree completely.

I just don't like leaving all my eggs in one basket.

11/1/2006 5:28:42 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Not to hijack your thread, but could you give me any possible reason for burying your firearms in the ground?



Never hurts to have contigency plans-house fire/house explosion/overrun by zombies/et cetera,et cetera............


That whole eggs in one basket thing