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10/18/2006 7:29:19 PM EDT
Hey guy's ....
I'm going to get my kids a computer for x-mas , I'm thinking of getting a DELL . The one I'm thinking of getting comes with a 2 year warranty .

Who has a dell and likes it ???

Thanks guys ....

10/18/2006 7:30:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Mine piss's me off.
10/18/2006 7:30:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Depends.....if your looking at low end stuff they are probably the best. (This is NOT saying much....low end is junk where ever you look)

For high end stuff.........you have to go with self built......know any local computer geeks? (High end seems to be WAY overpriced from any OEM)

Dunno about the mid-range stuff....
10/18/2006 7:30:48 PM EDT
[#3]
I like both of mine:
XPS 400 desktop

Inspiron 5150 notebook
10/18/2006 7:35:34 PM EDT
[#4]
good for quick and easy kids computers

400 bucks out the door and you're done, just don't expect to play battlefield 2041 on them
10/18/2006 7:36:32 PM EDT
[#5]
Build your own.
10/18/2006 7:36:59 PM EDT
[#6]
I am typing on one now. Mine is nice.
10/18/2006 7:39:36 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Depends.....if your looking at low end stuff they are probably the best. (This is NOT saying much....low end is junk where ever you look)

For high end stuff.........you have to go with self built......know any local computer geeks? (High end seems to be WAY overpriced from any OEM)

Dunno about the mid-range stuff....


+1 on high-end being overpriced.

If you are going to do any gaming, it's really tough to beat the home-built route.  You can build a decent (not uber) gaming rig for a modest buck.
10/18/2006 7:40:44 PM EDT
[#8]
Dell is swell.
10/18/2006 7:42:02 PM EDT
[#9]
I have three Dell computers and a 24" Dell monitor.  They've all been good for me and I recommend them to others.
10/18/2006 7:44:30 PM EDT
[#10]
i just got an XPS700 with 24" monitor, it's a great computer. but i am so annoyed by there toll-free India tech support, they always give me the wrong info. there live online tech support chat is much better because it's in Nashville, TN! Real Americans!
10/18/2006 8:01:40 PM EDT
[#11]
Dell is the pits.  You can configure your own built-to-order system from Systemax and get a better system for less money.

Plus their tech support is in Ohio, not Bangalore.

www.systemaxpc.com/
10/18/2006 8:02:27 PM EDT
[#12]
The hell with the gaming , WE have the xbox 360 , the PS2 and other systems .
This is what I'm looking to get here's the info on it !!!


Dimension C521 AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 4200+
Operating System Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 with re-installation CD
Memory 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz- 2DIMMs
Keyboard and Mouse Bundles Dell USB Multimedia Keyboard and Dell Optical USB Mouse
Monitors 19 inch Ultrasharp™ 1907FP Digital Flat Panel
Video Cards 256MB ATI Radeon X1300 Pro
Hard Drives 250GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
Floppy Drive and Media Reader 3.5 in Floppy Drive
Mouse Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package
Network Interface Integrated 10/100 Ethernet
Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0
CD or DVD Drive 16x DVD+/-RW Drive
Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Speakers Dell A225 Speakers
Office Productivity Software (Pre-Installed) No productivity suite- Includes Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD
Anti-Virus/Security Suite No Security Subscription
Limited Warranty, Services and Support Options 2Yr Ltd Warranty, 2Yr At-Home Service, and 2Yr HW Warranty Support
Internet Access Service 6 Months of EarthLink Internet Access Included
Future Operating Systems Windows Vista™ Capable
Photos, music & more! Deluxe pack- Music & photo: Corel Photo Album, MusicMatch Plus, Games
Labels Vista Capable Sticker

TOTAL:$1,158.00  

Thanks guys .....
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10/18/2006 8:05:01 PM EDT
[#13]
i would never buy a desktop from a large company like dell

on the other hand Dell Laptops are topnotch and i wouldn't trade it for any other on the market

i have an xpsm1210
10/18/2006 8:07:43 PM EDT
[#14]
I used to build every computer I owned....however, there are amazing deals that are hard to compete with these days.  If the computer is for a family member or friend, I just tell them to buy dell.

I usually troll www.gotapex.com for the latest dell coupons.  Hard to beat the price for what you get.  Of course, you almost always need to upgrade the RAM and Video.  Other than that....the price is right.
10/18/2006 8:44:18 PM EDT
[#15]
To hell with the gaming?  Obviously you haven't played online with a PC yet.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-DnK-d_sp0

That system sounds pretty good for the price.
10/18/2006 9:28:13 PM EDT
[#16]
When they work, they're solid as a rock. It takes a real maroon to screw up a good Dell. That said, I deal with screwed up Dells all the time (see previous sentence).
10/19/2006 5:06:34 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
To hell with the gaming?  Obviously you haven't played online with a PC yet.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-DnK-d_sp0

That system sounds pretty good for the price.


Damn !!!, that's shit looks tight !!!
10/19/2006 5:08:25 AM EDT
[#18]
dell desktop =  TeH SuCKaGe
10/19/2006 5:10:06 AM EDT
[#19]
the low end consumer stuff is complete junk. avoid at all costs.

the high end stuff is on par with any other high end out of the box machine from a mass producer.
10/19/2006 5:17:32 AM EDT
[#20]
Pretty much impossible to build anything cheeper than dells low end stuff.  My wife has a low end dell and it has worked good for her for a couple years.  Yeh, it is dogging now, but that is to be expected - I really need to rebuild the os on it.

I'm the office computer geek, I use dells here.  The ones I use are not cheep, but they are good office machines - again for what they are, I can not build much cheeper (I have built several computers here that did not need MS office - or were linux boxes).

Build your own is fun.  I have built a half dozen or so, but ultimately have bought a lot more dells.  Just understand what you want, and what you need.  If you are going to play games, the discount dells do suck, if you are going to blog - get a nice monitor and have fun.  At the office, I deal with P class machines, gig of ram, dual monitor.  Not cheep, but a joy to use.
10/19/2006 5:18:01 AM EDT
[#21]
Dell for laptops.  My Inspiron E1405 is excellent.  Just make sure you clean all the extra crap off of it before you load any of your own programs.

For desktops, build your own or have a friend build it.  If you are NEVER going to do any gaming, then a low-end Dell should work fine for you.
10/19/2006 5:18:48 AM EDT
[#22]
Why don't you buy him a Vulcan Arms AR-15 or possibly a Hesse instead?
10/19/2006 5:24:41 AM EDT
[#23]
just picked up a Inspiron E1705 ultra sharp, ture life 17" screen,, it's awesome .....also have dell desktop no complaints get plenty of ram..
10/19/2006 5:29:29 AM EDT
[#24]
nope, skip dell and gateway

10/19/2006 5:48:05 AM EDT
[#25]
We use only Dells at work. They've done a good job for us. Though I agree, if you are somewhat knowledgable and looking for maximum performance, build it yourself.

I bought my father a Dell pc last year for a couple of reasons, rather than build it myself. For one, it comes with a warranty making it easier to get repaired. I won't have to worry about each components individual warranty. Also, he won't hold me accountable if something goes wrong.
10/19/2006 5:50:32 AM EDT
[#26]
Yes.
10/19/2006 6:04:38 AM EDT
[#27]
Non standard MOBOs/Power supplies can make them a PITA for upgrading.
10/19/2006 6:29:49 AM EDT
[#28]
Desktops are good (mid to upper grade)... just make sure you get the things in it you need.  I've had my desktop for about 4 years and it's great.  I made sure i could upgrade it when needed.

Dell Laptops suck!!!!  never liked the one i had. never worked when i needed it.

Things you need:
extra USB ports you can never have enough
DVD burner
If they play games get a good video card and extra hard drive space
RAM as much as you can buy, i have 1.5gb of ram and could use more

hope that helped
10/19/2006 6:31:16 AM EDT
[#29]
Dell at work and I'm on my second Dell at home.  Love it.  I like to play games like second life so I upgraded my video card when I purchased my last Dell.  

Lois
10/19/2006 6:34:40 AM EDT
[#30]
You have to understand how the desktop computer business works.

Virtually all of the processors will be made by either AMD or Intel. PC manufacturers just pick a particular model of processor and put it in their computer.

The processor requires a motherboard chipset to work. There are only a few companies that make chipsets. These chipsets are bought by motherboard companies who then design, manufacture, and sell motherboards to the PC manufacturers. The same chipset/motherboard might be in any companies computers.

Hard drives are manufactured by several different companies and sold to the manufacturers… This is true of every single part in the computer except for the cases and sometimes power supplies. It’s all standard and it’s all interchangeable.

What I’m getting at is that Dell Model #1 might be the exact same computer as Gateway Model A, except for the stickers and case. And Dell Model #1 could be a completely different computer than Dell Model #2.

But to make things even more confusing there is a big difference in quality of components. Two computers can look the same on paper but one of them might have a faster hard drive, faster memory, a higher quality DVD drive, better poser supply, etc. So, cheaper isn’t necessarily better.

That’s why I like to build them myself. I know exactly what’s in the box. I can cut corners where it’s acceptable to me and go for quality where I need it. A local shop could build you one and offer you a warranty too. It’ll cost more but you will get a better system.

But, Dell is just fine. They offer about as good a combination of quality, value, and service as anyone else. In my experience they are better than most, that’s not saying much though.
10/19/2006 6:37:02 AM EDT
[#31]
I've had a Dell desktop for two years, and bought an E1505 laptop a couple of months back.  Both were bought refurbished through the Dell Outlet, and I've had no problems with either.

+1 on cleaning off all of the unwanted crap before loading your own.  
10/19/2006 6:40:19 AM EDT
[#32]
A customer of ours runs a shop that repairs computers.  The number one brand he works on is Dell.  Even though most are under warranty, people pay him rather than dealing with the horror that is Dell's support.  When people will spend money to avoid them, you know there's a problem.

As I've posted about here before, on the next to the last batch of 24 Dell computers we bought, one wouldn't power-up out of the box.  We bought the next day service for them, and it still took Dell 18 months to replace the power supply.  To Dell, 18 months is the same thing as next day.  Just after that I had two LCD monitors that didn't work out of the box.  It took me about 30 hours on the phone just to get an RMA #.  Since they stalled past their 30 day replacement policy and paid with a cashiers check, we're stuck with them.  There's no excuse for that.  I don't know of a more dishonest company in the computer business.z
10/19/2006 6:50:24 AM EDT
[#33]
My dell 9300 laptop screen is dying on me, but I'd buy another in a heartbeat.  Great laptop...  just get the extended warranty...

10/19/2006 8:23:35 AM EDT
[#34]
Dell computers seem to work, but if something goes wrong you are screwed.
I work with dells all day. I can't tell you how much their tech support sucks if something goes wrong. We are a large company, and have signed a contract to use nothing but dells for all the offices world wide. That is not just desk tops, but servers, and products that get build on pc models.
I had to rebuild a machine 3 times for them, had a tech sent out and helped him rebuild it with new parts before I could talk to level 3 tech support.
They would not take the machine back and give me a new one because I had purchased it more than 30 days ago. Never mind that I didn't even plug it in for that whole time, it was too old now to return. A brand new machine still in the box that doesn't boot up and it is now my problem because I had the foresite to order computers for a project a month early.
The sent every part to me but the case, twice. Then had the tech come out to do it as well. Turned out there was a processor memory mismatch that didn't show up in their system that the level 3 guy figured out in 15 mins, but I had to repeat every test for 3 weeks to get to him.
Never buy a dell.
And unlike the others, I actually got an American to deal with, not someone in bangledesh.
10/19/2006 5:58:53 PM EDT
[#35]
Can't thank you guys enough !!!
Tech support does NOT matter , my wife has some real good tech support at here job so the hell with dells support !!!

Like I said Thanks guys ......
10/19/2006 6:01:05 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
dell desktop =  TeH SuCKaGe

what he said.

BYOC
Build Your Own Computer.
10/20/2006 6:12:13 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
A customer of ours runs a shop that repairs computers.  The number one brand he works on is Dell.  Even though most are under warranty, people pay him rather than dealing with the horror that is Dell's support.  When people will spend money to avoid them, you know there's a problem.

As I've posted about here before, on the next to the last batch of 24 Dell computers we bought, one wouldn't power-up out of the box.  We bought the next day service for them, and it still took Dell 18 months to replace the power supply.  To Dell, 18 months is the same thing as next day.  Just after that I had two LCD monitors that didn't work out of the box.  It took me about 30 hours on the phone just to get an RMA #.  Since they stalled past their 30 day replacement policy and paid with a cashiers check, we're stuck with them.  There's no excuse for that.  I don't know of a more dishonest company in the computer business.z


Dell is probably the most commonly owned personal computer, by far, so to say that they are crap because your customer works on more of them than any other computer wouldn't be accurate.

Any off-the-shelf computer will have problems at some point.  I imagine EVERY company putting out computers has crappy foreign tech support so you might as well go with the cheapest one you can find that has the features you want.  I highly doubt HP, Compaq, Samsung, or Sony base their tech support in the U.S.
10/20/2006 6:39:56 AM EDT
[#38]
   The Wife writes Code as a Contractor for the Navy, they only buy Dell. Average life span for her laptop is 6 months before it develops issues.  They used to try to fix it, now they just order a new one at the first sign of trouble and pass the old one on to someone else.
   She has a higher end Dell desk top that she will not use for Coding, she calls it her ‘Yugo’.
   Build it yourself, it is far easier then you think, and you then know what it is made with.
10/20/2006 8:23:19 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Any off-the-shelf computer will have problems at some point.  I imagine EVERY company putting out computers has crappy foreign tech support so you might as well go with the cheapest one you can find that has the features you want.  I highly doubt HP, Compaq, Samsung, or Sony base their tech support in the U.S.


Systemax does all their support in Ohio  
10/20/2006 8:31:54 AM EDT
[#40]
No problems with mine...

Dimension 8400
Dimension E510
10/20/2006 9:48:11 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Any off-the-shelf computer will have problems at some point.  I imagine EVERY company putting out computers has crappy foreign tech support so you might as well go with the cheapest one you can find that has the features you want.  I highly doubt HP, Compaq, Samsung, or Sony base their tech support in the U.S.


Systemax does all their support in Ohio  


Never heard of them so they don't count.  I'm talking about the computers that your regular Joe is likely to pick up in Best Buy.