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10/18/2006 8:32:23 AM EDT
Immigration Nightmare



I hope we aren't too late to recover
From the L. A. Times:


1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.


2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.


3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.


5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here
illegally.


6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.


7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.


8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.


9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.


10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L. A. County).


(All the above from the Los Angeles Times)



Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.


Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.



The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was, (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay), a NET $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University].




The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE number.


29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.


If they can come to this country to raise Hell and demonstration by the thousands, Why can't they take charge over the corruption in their own country?


We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue.


THE U.S. VS MEXICO: On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, "This was the most painful experience I have ever had in this profession."


Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European countries can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education, and government contracts? It's called affirmative action or racial privilege. The Emperor of Japan or the President of Mexico could migrate here and immediately be eligible for special rights unavailable for Americans of European descent.




DID YOU KNOW?: That Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals? Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do so?




According to the L. A. Times, Orange County, California is home to 275 gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are Mexican and Asian. How's your county doing?


According to a New York Times article dated May 19, 1994, 20 years after the great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30% are still on welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A Wall Street Journal editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law enforcement officials as stating that Asian mobsters are the "greatest criminal challenge the country faces" Not bad for a group that is still under 5% of the population.


Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who spent over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system. "Imagine teachers in classes containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and motivation, many of whom aren't fluent in English. Educators seek learning materials likely to reach the majority of students and that means fewer words and math problems and more pictures and multicultural references."


WHEN I WAS YOUNG: I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island. They wanted to learn English They wanted to breathe free. They wanted to become Americans. Now, far too many immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand special privileges--affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify their culture.



California Coalition for Immigration Reform
5942 Edinger, Suite 113-117
Huntington Beach, CA 92649
Phone 714-921-7142


10/18/2006 8:35:21 AM EDT
[#1]
I think I am going to puke.
10/18/2006 8:35:23 AM EDT
[#2]
popcorn in hand



eta Damnit beat me by 2 seconds
10/18/2006 8:37:37 AM EDT
[#3]
You appear to not be celebrating diversity at required levels.
10/18/2006 8:43:03 AM EDT
[#4]
You spelled Texas with a C.
10/18/2006 8:43:37 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
You appear to not be celebrating diversity at required levels.



what's this got to do with diversity?
10/18/2006 8:45:07 AM EDT
[#6]
Gee, it is was such a cool country when I was a kid.

10/18/2006 8:46:30 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You appear to not be celebrating diversity at required levels.



what's this got to do with diversity?


Forgot the smiley didn't I?

10/18/2006 8:47:50 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Gee, it is was such a cool country when I was a kid.



Well then this is obviously your fault.  Turn yourself back into a kid again and the problems will, logically, go away.
10/18/2006 8:51:20 AM EDT
[#9]
IBAACYAR- In Before an Arftard Calls You a Racist.

Nothing to see here sheeple.  Move along now.  Get back to work.  Keep paying your taxes to the .GOV protection money to the racketeers.

This is a good site to check out.

www.immigrationshumancost.org/
10/18/2006 8:54:37 AM EDT
[#10]
If you're going to say it's "From the L.A. Times", provide a link.

www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp

I'm not any less pissed off about illegals, but BS email forwards don't help the cause any.
10/18/2006 8:57:17 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Gee, it is was such a cool country when I was a kid.



You know it pal...Not to mention there was so much open space everywhere!
10/18/2006 9:00:25 AM EDT
[#12]
could be worse.. this could be phranze.. and those illegals could be.. ah... 'youths of north african decent'

ahem...
10/18/2006 9:02:23 AM EDT
[#13]

DID YOU KNOW?: That Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals? Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do so?


There are several guys in Mexico right now that are wanted for murder in the US.  Mexico is refussing to arrest or extradite if caught. Because their parents are still mexican citizens...the guys themselves are US citizens since they were born in this country.



In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L. A. County


Wrong, 3 million speak english only, 4 million speak spanish only, 3 million speak either both or other/english.  This is only they people we know about from their drivers licence.


The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE number.


Mix this with the fact that 30% of all the money earned in this country is sent back to Mexico.  And possibly as little as 25% of this makes it back into our economy...by the way of illegal imagration
10/18/2006 9:03:13 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Immigration Nightmare



I hope we aren't too late to recover
From the L. A. Times:


1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.


2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.


3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.


5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here
illegally.


6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.


7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.


8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.


9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.


10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L. A. County).


(All the above from the Los Angeles Times)



Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.


Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.



The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was, (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay), a NET $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University].




The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE number.


29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.


If they can come to this country to raise Hell and demonstration by the thousands, Why can't they take charge over the corruption in their own country?


We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue.


THE U.S. VS MEXICO: On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, "This was the most painful experience I have ever had in this profession."


Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European countries can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education, and government contracts? It's called affirmative action or racial privilege. The Emperor of Japan or the President of Mexico could migrate here and immediately be eligible for special rights unavailable for Americans of European descent.




DID YOU KNOW?: That Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals? Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do so?




According to the L. A. Times, Orange County, California is home to 275 gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are Mexican and Asian. How's your county doing?


According to a New York Times article dated May 19, 1994, 20 years after the great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30% are still on welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A Wall Street Journal editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law enforcement officials as stating that Asian mobsters are the "greatest criminal challenge the country faces" Not bad for a group that is still under 5% of the population.


Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who spent over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system. "Imagine teachers in classes containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and motivation, many of whom aren't fluent in English. Educators seek learning materials likely to reach the majority of students and that means fewer words and math problems and more pictures and multicultural references."


WHEN I WAS YOUNG: I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island. They wanted to learn English They wanted to breathe free. They wanted to become Americans. Now, far too many immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand special privileges--affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify their culture.



California Coalition for Immigration Reform
5942 Edinger, Suite 113-117
Huntington Beach, CA 92649
Phone 714-921-7142








TEOTWAWKI
10/18/2006 9:13:40 AM EDT
[#15]
Ask any Californian who's recently moved from the state, (AKA: White Flight)  "why did you leave California?" and 90% of the time the answer will be something like "the traffic is a nightmatre".    
10/18/2006 9:17:06 AM EDT
[#16]
Screw the US-Mexico fence, put one around California
10/18/2006 9:21:03 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I think I am going to puke.


+1 I dont feel so good. I knew  it was bad but damn...

This country is headed down the crapper.

10/18/2006 9:24:29 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Screw the US-Mexico fence, put one around California


Mexifornia
10/18/2006 9:37:28 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I think I am going to puke.


A couldn't agree more. The politicians responsible for allowing this should be hung for treason. They've COMPLETELY sold out America for political gain.

We're a neon blinking, sitcom watching, drive through loving, obese nation of complacency. The majority of people can't be bothered to turn the screws on those who allow this to continue. And it aint just liberals. GWB has done NOTHING....and gets lumped in with every other cocksucker who has sat by and watched our country continue to erode as the disenfranchised have-not's of the 3rd world crap all over the country.

And before you whine to me about my characterization of GW, tell me what he's done to address this. If the answer is little or nothing, my statement stands.

I actually feel sorry for the memories of generations before us that actually cared...that actually worked to make the U.S. a superpower. For the sitting politicos to sit idle and watch...no...enable this to happen, they should be shamed and ejected from ANY form of influence they currently enjoy.

I am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED of this nation doing NOTHING about this....and I'm ASHAMED of ANY American who will not take the time to pressure those in office. They ride scott free on a nation of complacent citizens.
10/18/2006 10:04:25 AM EDT
[#20]
Immigration Nightmare-  Thomas Jefferson had a nightmare of his own over slavery.  

In an April 22 letter to John Holmes, Thomas Jefferson wrote that the division of the country created by the Missouri Compromise line would eventually lead to the destruction of the Union:

"...this momentous question, like a fire bell in the night, awakened and filled me with terror. I considered it at once as the knell of the Union. It is hushed, indeed, for the moment. But this is a reprieve only, not a final sentence. A geographical line, coinciding with a marked principle, moral and political, once conceived and held up to the angry passions of men, will never be obliterated; and every new irritation will mark it deeper and deeper."


          Notable Quotations from George Santayana
'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.'
Life of Reason, Reason in Common Sense, Scribner's, 1905, page 284"


“Concerned about his legacy, George W. Bush may yet live to see his name entered into the history of his country as the president who lost the American Southwest that James K. Polk won for the United States."  Patrick J. Buchanan


10/18/2006 10:12:04 AM EDT
[#21]
I just found this.  A good, yet long read from last Spring, by one of the good guys in Hollywood.

World Net Daily
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An open letter to President George Bush

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Posted: May 10, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Ron Maxwell



Dear President Bush,

Perhaps you know me from my work. I wrote and directed the movies "Gettysburg" and "Gods and Generals." Walking Civil War battlefields, soaking up the letters and diaries of that generation, re-creating the world of our ancestors – all this has given me a deep appreciation for our country. My dad was with the Army Air Corps in North Africa while your dad was in the Pacific. My French mother was liberated in Tunisia and became a lawful immigrant to the USA. For an American, my story is unique and typical at the same time.

You probably don't need to be reminded of the hostility and animus directed your way by most of the Hollywood community. Then again, I'm sure you don't take it personally. After all, they held Ronald Reagan in equal contempt. As one of the very few directors of major motion-pictures who sees you in a different light, I implore you to listen seriously to what I have to say.


What is happening on the southern border is unprecedented. Not only in our own history, but in the history of the world. No country at any time anywhere has sustained the influx of tens of millions of foreigners across its borders. A wave of anti-American leftism is sweeping Latin America. A socialist radical may soon be elected as the president of Mexico, a country which officially encourages its emigrants to vote in Mexican elections, urging them to think of themselves as Mexican first and perhaps only.

The eventual outcome is plain for anyone with eyes to see. This is invasion masquerading as immigration.

It may already be too late to avoid a future annexation of the Southwest by Mexico or the evolution of a Mexican-dominated satellite state. This is not to say Mexican people are better or worse than any of God's children. It is to say that millions of ethnically and culturally homogeneous people will seek self-determination in a land they will increasingly feel justified in claiming as their own. Especially when the natural weight of demographic change is accompanied by the sound-track of radical demagoguery that seeks to legitimize and moralize this phenomenon as a "reconquista."

Many pundits claim you will be remembered in history as the president who won (or lost) the war in Iraq. I see it differently. I believe you will come to be seen, in the years and decades to come, as the president who saved (or lost) the Southwest of the United States.

Mr. President, this is a time for candor. Your immigration policy is viewed as captive to the cheap-labor, big-business lobby and inimical to the survival of our country. It is splitting the party and draining away support for your presidency. We who understand the vital stakes will not be placated by rhetoric or slogans. The failure to recognize this growing and deep disaffection among Republicans, conservatives, independents and indeed many Reagan Democrats, is, in the short run, going to lead to a monumental defeat for your party at the polls in November.

The last two years of your presidency will be plagued with impeachment hearings, with pressures to diminish the War against Terrorism, with the cutting off of funds for the war of liberation in Iraq for which so many of our brothers in uniform have paid the ultimate price. The American people will once again be forced to endure a painful repetition of the humiliating withdrawal from Vietnam. We will be dedicating yet another monument to brave men who gave their lives for honor, country and a lost cause.

I understand that in your heart you want to believe that the border should be an open place where goods and people can move freely back and forth for the good of all. I do not question your integrity or the goodness and decency of your motivations. Dear Mr. President, this is a utopian creed, which must be discarded before it is too late.

When I watched the Senate Judiciary Committee's one-day public session on immigration reform (I suppose we should be grateful that Sen. Specter devoted one whole day out of his busy schedule for the public discussion of a problem regarding 20 million illegal aliens) it was remarkable for the near absence of any senator speaking on behalf of the American people or their own constituents. It seems the overriding concern of most senators of both parties is for the illegal-immigrant population. Perhaps these senators should be reminded they are supposed to represent and defend American citizens, not foreign nationals, illegal aliens or indeed anyone else. Listening to the self-serving and pandering speeches, you'd think the senators were elected in Mexico or any other country on the globe except America.

Where was the concern for American school children forced to sit in overcrowded classes; for American patients forced to wait in overcrowded hospitals; for American workers whose wages are being undercut; for American drivers forced to sit in interminable traffic jams in overwhelmed freeway systems; for the victims of organized gangs; for the American college students who are turned away from publicly funded state universities; for many African-Americans who are being literally displaced from their neighborhoods while being moved figuratively, once again, to the back of the bus; for those environmentalists and conservationists who want to protect open space and slow down urban sprawl; for the American taxpayers who have had to bear the burden of billions of dollars in increased welfare costs, overburdened prisons, extra police and security and even, adding insult to injury, for bilingual education?

Where was the concern that we as a people are compelled to deal with these "in your face" issues that have been imposed upon us by external forces, instead of focusing our time, energies and capital on our own indigenous, urgent concerns like, for instance, the medical care for our own countrymen and women. Might it be irresponsible to mislead the 20 million illegal foreigners already here and might it be immoral to encourage the yearly arrival of millions more when we cannot even take care of our own millions of poor and sick and hungry and yes, dare I say it, unemployed?

Working as I do in Civil War history, I have had to explore the ugly depths of the American institution of slavery, and have been privileged to work alongside civil-rights leaders and specialists in African-American history. For this reason, it troubles me that we appear today to be importing a second virtual slave class, of low-wage workers who are hired to replace or displace less-educated or privileged Americans – including the very descendants of American slaves. I agree with you that "no child should be left behind." But that is precisely what immigration advocates are doing to the children of America's working class – by flooding the market with workers from a desperately poor country, who depress the wages of high-school and even college graduates.

Little in the current situation resembles the immigration we knew and cherished while growing up in America prior to the '80s. The new and radically dislocating phenomenon we are enduring is not the old, familiar immigration of yesteryear – gradual, orderly, assimilating and lawful. The numbers alone are unprecedented.

The American people have been made the victims of monumental social engineering perpetuated upon them without their consent and against their will by an arrogant governing elite. Those who try to neutralize their justifiable instincts of self-preservation as a people and a sovereign nation by constantly invoking the mantra of "a nation of immigrants" are trying to pull the wool over their eyes.

The House Immigration Bill isn't perfect, but it is a firm and realistic place from which to build an effective policy for the survival of our country. The McCain-Kennedy Bill looks like it was drafted by bureaucrats at the United Nations, not by representatives of the United States.

To do the right thing, to take the safe course for protecting our country you will have to endure even more vilification from the Left, you will have to watch large and increasingly violent rallies by those who don't want to abide by our laws or the will of the American people; who think they are entitled; who believe this country already belongs to them; who believe the rest of us should just move aside, shut-up and smile. To pretend this problem will go away by pandering to the illegal population, or to leave it for the next generation to solve is national suicide.

The moment has arrived. The Senate has already begun its bloviations and self-aggrandizing platitudes, its morality play of good and evil wherein they – the noble senators – are cast as the redeemers of the entire world population seeking only to "live the American dream." We know by their coded words they will do nothing meaningful to really solve the problem or to defend America. If their actions of the past 20 years are a guide, they will only take the pose of pretending to do so. As a movie director, I can see bad acting a mile away.

Today, there are two Republican parties. One is now seen correctly by most Americans as responsive first and foremost to the demands of multinational corporations, the agro-business and the Chamber of Commerce. The other, best represented by the embattled members of the House, represents grass-roots America – we the people. In this debate, you have the opportunity to make the party one and whole again, to regain its soul and return it to the service and the sovereignty of the American People.

Dear Mr. President, you must disenthrall yourself from the failed policies of the present. I implore you to re-think this issue and to change course. Millions of Americans, a great majority of your fellow citizens will be with you. Start speaking and doing the sensible, courageous and right thing. You will see your poll numbers turn dramatically around. You will save your country.

Respectfully,

Ron Maxwell



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Ronald F. Maxwell is a film writer, director and producer.
10/18/2006 10:17:00 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think I am going to puke.


A couldn't agree more. The politicians responsible for allowing this should be hung for treason. They've COMPLETELY sold out America for political gain.

We're a neon blinking, sitcom watching, drive through loving, obese nation of complacency. The majority of people can't be bothered to turn the screws on those who allow this to continue. And it aint just liberals. GWB has done NOTHING....and gets lumped in with every other cocksucker who has sat by and watched our country continue to erode as the disenfranchised have-not's of the 3rd world crap all over the country.

And before you whine to me about my characterization of GW, tell me what he's done to address this. If the answer is little or nothing, my statement stands.

I actually feel sorry for the memories of generations before us that actually cared...that actually worked to make the U.S. a superpower. For the sitting politicos to sit idle and watch...no...enable this to happen, they should be shamed and ejected from ANY form of influence they currently enjoy.

I am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED of this nation doing NOTHING about this....and I'm ASHAMED of ANY American who will not take the time to pressure those in office. They ride scott free on a nation of complacent citizens.


10/18/2006 10:29:57 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Ask any Californian who's recently moved from the state, (AKA: White Flight)  "why did you leave California?" and 90% of the time the answer will be something like "the traffic is a nightmatre".    


Not this escapee.

Gun laws sucked.  San Diego is on the verge of becoming North TJ.  The state is controlled by socialist Democrats and Sacramento is more like a Politburo rather than a seat of democratically elected government.

But millions stay, thinking "Hey, but the weather is great so what if the place looks and sounds like Mexico"  That a day doesn't go by where some politician tries to further tax or regulate you, where they welcome the illegal infestation with open arms.  At least I don't have snow and go to the beach anytime I want.  
10/18/2006 4:06:36 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think I am going to puke.


A couldn't agree more. The politicians responsible for allowing this should be hung for treason. They've COMPLETELY sold out America for political gain.

We're a neon blinking, sitcom watching, drive through loving, obese nation of complacency. The majority of people can't be bothered to turn the screws on those who allow this to continue. And it aint just liberals. GWB has done NOTHING....and gets lumped in with every other cocksucker who has sat by and watched our country continue to erode as the disenfranchised have-not's of the 3rd world crap all over the country.

And before you whine to me about my characterization of GW, tell me what he's done to address this. If the answer is little or nothing, my statement stands.

I actually feel sorry for the memories of generations before us that actually cared...that actually worked to make the U.S. a superpower. For the sitting politicos to sit idle and watch...no...enable this to happen, they should be shamed and ejected from ANY form of influence they currently enjoy.

I am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED of this nation doing NOTHING about this....and I'm ASHAMED of ANY American who will not take the time to pressure those in office. They ride scott free on a nation of complacent citizens.


Nicely put

I'm sick of Polticians period        
Be they Democrat or Republican    
All they care about is lining there own Pockets , getting re-elected and The Party

How about America
How about Pledging Allegiance to serve America
Instead they Pledge their Allegiance to a Poltical Party and serve that instead of the Citizens

Washington DC needs a Cleansing

But it's too late
The Two-Party system has a Stranglehold on America
It's either one or the other
A true Reformation of the Politcal System is impossible

Ultimately they'll run it into the Ground
10/18/2006 4:14:56 PM EDT
[#25]
5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here
illegally.

All of these "undocumented workers" need to have a large bow placed on them with a card that reads "To: Vicente Fox From: George Bush" and they need to be dropped off at the border with a warning.  Return and you will be executed as a spy for Mexico.
10/18/2006 4:31:23 PM EDT
[#26]
I think this issue will cause the 2nd civil war in America. Race wars. Its not to that point yet, but wait until there are enough mexicans in Cali to annex the state into Mexico. One day its going to happen.
10/18/2006 4:42:23 PM EDT
[#27]
Deny them your essence.
10/18/2006 4:43:41 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
I think this issue will cause the 2nd civil war in America. Race wars. Its not to that point yet, but wait until there are enough mexicans in Cali to annex the state into Mexico. One day its going to happen.


It certainly has all the makings of a civil war and with the right leader I belive it could happen tomorrow.  Everyone I know is pissed at this situation.  However, I couldn't name one person, or one group that could even organize a march the size of what the illegals pull off in LA this spring, let alone organize a viable oppositon.  
10/18/2006 4:50:19 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think I am going to puke.


A couldn't agree more. The politicians responsible for allowing this should be hung for treason. They've COMPLETELY sold out America for political gain.

We're a neon blinking, sitcom watching, drive through loving, obese nation of complacency. The majority of people can't be bothered to turn the screws on those who allow this to continue. And it aint just liberals. GWB has done NOTHING....and gets lumped in with every other cocksucker who has sat by and watched our country continue to erode as the disenfranchised have-not's of the 3rd world crap all over the country.

And before you whine to me about my characterization of GW, tell me what he's done to address this. If the answer is little or nothing, my statement stands.

I actually feel sorry for the memories of generations before us that actually cared...that actually worked to make the U.S. a superpower. For the sitting politicos to sit idle and watch...no...enable this to happen, they should be shamed and ejected from ANY form of influence they currently enjoy.

I am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED of this nation doing NOTHING about this....and I'm ASHAMED of ANY American who will not take the time to pressure those in office. They ride scott free on a nation of complacent citizens.


Nicely put

I'm sick of Polticians period        
Be they Democrat or Republican    
All they care about is lining there own Pockets , getting re-elected and The Party

How about America
How about Pledging Allegiance to serve America
Instead they Pledge their Allegiance to a Poltical Party and serve that instead of the Citizens

Washington DC needs a Cleansing

But it's too late
The Two-Party system has a Stranglehold on America
It's either one or the other
A true Reformation of the Politcal System is impossible

Ultimately they'll run it into the Ground


Sadly, I have to agree with this  

Do you really think any politician is in it for the 'good of the country'?

No, most are in it for their own selfish monetary goals, if they were so smart, they would make it in the world without the 'influence', most now are just riding on political connections daddy and grand-daddy built before them.
10/18/2006 5:20:56 PM EDT
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My daughter was just born and we were the only english speakers in the WHOLE wing. The rest didnt speak a word of english, and most didnt have any proof of residency/citizenship so they were more than likely Illegals(according to nurses etc) I flet sorry for many of the Techs and Nurses trying to do their jobs when their patients didnt "Habla Ingles"
10/18/2006 5:21:39 PM EDT
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Ask any Californian who's recently moved from the state, (AKA: White Flight)  "why did you leave California?" and 90% of the time the answer will be something like "the traffic is a nightmatre".    

Not this escapee.

Gun laws sucked.  San Diego is on the verge of becoming North TJ.  The state is controlled by socialist Democrats and Sacramento is more like a Politburo rather than a seat of democratically elected government.

But millions stay, thinking "Hey, but the weather is great so what if the place looks and sounds like Mexico"  That a day doesn't go by where some politician tries to further tax or regulate you, where they welcome the illegal infestation with open arms.  At least I don't have snow and go to the beach anytime I want.  


You speak the Truth...
10/18/2006 5:24:13 PM EDT
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I think this issue will cause the 2nd civil war in America. Race wars. Its not to that point yet, but wait until there are enough mexicans in Cali to annex the state into Mexico. One day its going to happen.


It certainly has all the makings of a civil war and with the right leader I belive it could happen tomorrow.  Everyone I know is pissed at this situation.  However, I couldn't name one person, or one group that could even organize a march the size of what the illegals pull off in LA this spring, let alone organize a viable oppositon.  


+1 But eventually Federal Troops will have to be brought in when they "Storm" Gov offices and violence will ensue!!
10/18/2006 5:41:47 PM EDT
[#33]

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Ask any Californian who's recently moved from the state, (AKA: White Flight)  "why did you leave California?" and 90% of the time the answer will be something like "the traffic is a nightmatre".    


Not this escapee.

Gun laws sucked.  San Diego is on the verge of becoming North TJ.  The state is controlled by socialist Democrats and Sacramento is more like a Politburo rather than a seat of democratically elected government.

But millions stay, thinking "Hey, but the weather is great so what if the place looks and sounds like Mexico"  That a day doesn't go by where some politician tries to further tax or regulate you, where they welcome the illegal infestation with open arms.  At least I don't have snow and go to the beach anytime I want.  


My BIL is the very quintessence of that dopey Californian you speak of.Yet, he calls me to complain about how fucked up everything is.



"Bob, you've got a place you can move to back in Colorado. We'll rent you our condo in Aurora while we escape to small-town Colorado."

"No, I can't take going back to Colorado. I'll stay in California."

What can you do about stupidity that broad?