Setting up a network? > General Discussion

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:39:14 PM EDT

So, I got a new computer. I have two computers hooked to the same router. I have run the networking wizard on both computers. I cannot use either computer to access anything on the other. Is there a magic word or something that I have missed? I'm sure it's simple, I'm just kind of a dumb guy. Any help?

Thanks!

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:45:25 PM EDT

[#1]

It's kind of hard to explain it on a forum (well not really, but it takes too long) when I have to assume NO networking knowledge whatsoever. That said, I'll try and help out and make it as simple as humanly possible. What make/model router do you have?

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:46:25 PM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
It's kind of hard to explain it on a forum (well not really, but it takes too long) when I have to assume NO networking knowledge whatsoever. That said, I'll try and help out and make it as simple as humanly possible. What make/model router do you have?

Cisco RT31P2 broadband router.

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:50:53 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's kind of hard to explain it on a forum (well not really, but it takes too long) when I have to assume NO networking knowledge whatsoever. That said, I'll try and help out and make it as simple as humanly possible. What make/model router do you have?

Cisco RT31P2 broadband router.

Cool (and congrats on buying something kinda cool and off the beaten path). Before I continue, do you want to share your broadband internet connection with the rest of the computers, through the router?

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:55:01 PM EDT

[#4]

Wait...isn't that a Linksys, and if so - are you SURE you got the model number right?

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:55:23 PM EDT

[#5]

Yes.

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:55:59 PM EDT

[#6]

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Wait...isn't that a Linksys, and if so - are you SURE you got the model number right?

Yes.

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:56:19 PM EDT

[#7]

I'm gonna pull up the documentation to help aid you along in the router setup. Are you sure you got the model right? I can't find it...

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:56:55 PM EDT

[#8]

RT31P2

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:57:28 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
RT31P2

Found it. Cool, hang on.

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:59:17 PM EDT

[#10]

Have you shared resources (files and printers)?

For printer, go to start, settings, printer, then right click on the printer then left click on properties.

Go to the sharing tab and share the printer.

To share files, go to my computer. Find the file you want to share. Right click on the file, left click security and sharing, share file.

This is very basic but a start point.

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:59:54 PM EDT

[#11]

I appreciate your help. Though actually, the nrew computer is in the middle of making recovery discs, must we action now, or may I be able to refer to instructions in this thread later?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:00:44 PM EDT

[#12]

Alright, we're ready to rock. Am I to assume you have your cable/dsl modem plugged directly into the network interface on your PC - i.e. not going through the router at the moment?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:00:51 PM EDT

[#13]

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Have you shared resources (files and printers)?

For printer, go to start, settings, printer, then right click on the printer then left click on properties.

Go to the sharing tab and share the printer.

To share files, go to my computer. Find the file you want to share. Right click on the file, left click security and sharing, share file.

This is very basic but a start point.

yes, I did do that.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:02:26 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
I appreciate your help. Though actually, the nrew computer is in the middle of making recovery discs, must we action now, or may I be able to refer to instructions in this thread later?

I've got time now (not later), and it's easier if I walk you though it. Making an all inclusive guide that covers all possibilites will take too long.

I could point you to some websites, but what's the fun in that? You came here for help.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:02:47 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Alright, we're ready to rock. Am I to assume you have your cable/dsl modem plugged directly into the network interface on your PC - i.e. not going through the router at the moment?

I just have both computers plugged into the router. Network interface?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:03:54 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Alright, we're ready to rock. Am I to assume you have your cable/dsl modem plugged directly into the network interface on your PC - i.e. not going through the router at the moment?

I just have both computers plugged into the router. Network interface?

Is there a cable running from the back of your cable/dsl modem into your computer (kinda like a fat phone cord)?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:04:12 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

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I appreciate your help. Though actually, the nrew computer is in the middle of making recovery discs, must we action now, or may I be able to refer to instructions in this thread later?

I've got time now (not later), and it's easier if I walk you though it. Making an all inclusive guide that covers all possibilites will take too long.

I could point you to some websites, but what's the fun in that? You came here for help.

Damn. Thanks for your willingness to help, Sub. I thought it might be a slam-bam deal rather than a process. I've got a buddy who can come help, but thanks again. I picked a bad time to ask, eh?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:04:53 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Alright, we're ready to rock. Am I to assume you have your cable/dsl modem plugged directly into the network interface on your PC - i.e. not going through the router at the moment?

I just have both computers plugged into the router. Network interface?

Is there a cable running from the back of your cable/dsl modem into your computer (kinda like a fat phone cord)?

Yes.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:05:31 PM EDT

[#19]

Tag....

Do you need a seperate router or will the broadband modem alone work?

GT
Computer illiterate...

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:05:41 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I appreciate your help. Though actually, the nrew computer is in the middle of making recovery discs, must we action now, or may I be able to refer to instructions in this thread later?

I've got time now (not later), and it's easier if I walk you though it. Making an all inclusive guide that covers all possibilites will take too long.

I could point you to some websites, but what's the fun in that? You came here for help.

Damn. Thanks for your willingness to help, Sub. I thought it might be a slam-bam deal rather than a process. I've got a buddy who can come help, but thanks again. I picked a bad time to ask, eh?

It might be a slam dunk, or it might be a process. I don't know how far you've gotten, so I figure the best way is to start from scratch and get you setup right the first time.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:07:14 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I appreciate your help. Though actually, the nrew computer is in the middle of making recovery discs, must we action now, or may I be able to refer to instructions in this thread later?

I've got time now (not later), and it's easier if I walk you though it. Making an all inclusive guide that covers all possibilites will take too long.

I could point you to some websites, but what's the fun in that? You came here for help.

Damn. Thanks for your willingness to help, Sub. I thought it might be a slam-bam deal rather than a process. I've got a buddy who can come help, but thanks again. I picked a bad time to ask, eh?

It might be a slam dunk, or it might be a process. I don't know how far you've gotten, so I figure the best way is to start from scratch and get you setup right the first time.

Yeah. I wish the one computer wasn't burning recovery dvd's.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:11:03 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Alright, we're ready to rock. Am I to assume you have your cable/dsl modem plugged directly into the network interface on your PC - i.e. not going through the router at the moment?

I just have both computers plugged into the router. Network interface?

Is there a cable running from the back of your cable/dsl modem into your computer (kinda like a fat phone cord)?

Yes.

OK, cool. Some of the stuff I'm going to have you do will affect the internet connectivity on one of your computers for a bit. Okay, moving on:

1. Which do you have - cable or DSL (I might need to know this later)?
1a. If it's DSL, that brand and model modem do you have?
2. On the computer that is NOT plugged into the cable/dsl modem - Connect the patch cord (the fat phone cord thing) from the back of the computer to any one of the 3 ports marked "Ethernet" on the router.

With me so far?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:11:50 PM EDT

[#23]

As SubnetMask has the correct name for this problem, I'm out of here.

have fun.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:12:40 PM EDT

[#24]

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As SubnetMask has the correct name for this problem, I'm out of here.

have fun.

I almost never answer these types of questions. I'm feeling charitable today.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:12:47 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Alright, we're ready to rock. Am I to assume you have your cable/dsl modem plugged directly into the network interface on your PC - i.e. not going through the router at the moment?

I just have both computers plugged into the router. Network interface?

Is there a cable running from the back of your cable/dsl modem into your computer (kinda like a fat phone cord)?

Yes.

OK, cool. Some of the stuff I'm going to have you do will affect the internet connectivity on one of your computers for a bit. Okay, moving on:

1. Which do you have - cable or DSL (I might need to know this later)?
1a. If it's DSL, that brand and model modem do you have?
2. On the computer that is NOT plugged into the cable/dsl modem - Connect the patch cord (the fat phone cord thing) from the back of the computer to any one of the 3 ports marked "Ethernet" on the router.

With me so far?

I'm with ya, but I can't mess with the other unit while it's making recovery discs, I picked a bad time.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:15:15 PM EDT

[#26]

The ports on the router should be default share a connection across them, but require configuration for broadband access wouldnt it?
I may be wrong, but I would think the LAN ports would essentially auto detect and hook up and go.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:16:20 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Alright, we're ready to rock. Am I to assume you have your cable/dsl modem plugged directly into the network interface on your PC - i.e. not going through the router at the moment?

I just have both computers plugged into the router. Network interface?

Is there a cable running from the back of your cable/dsl modem into your computer (kinda like a fat phone cord)?

Yes.

OK, cool. Some of the stuff I'm going to have you do will affect the internet connectivity on one of your computers for a bit. Okay, moving on:

1. Which do you have - cable or DSL (I might need to know this later)?
1a. If it's DSL, that brand and model modem do you have?
2. On the computer that is NOT plugged into the cable/dsl modem - Connect the patch cord (the fat phone cord thing) from the back of the computer to any one of the 3 ports marked "Ethernet" on the router.

With me so far?

I'm with ya, but I can't mess with the other unit while it's making recovery discs, I picked a bad time.

No big deal. If I have you do this on the PC that's connected to your cable/DSL modem (which is it?), you'll lose your internet connectivity for a bit - which makes doing this over the internet kinda tricky.

How long do you figure until your recovery disks are done?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:17:36 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Alright, we're ready to rock. Am I to assume you have your cable/dsl modem plugged directly into the network interface on your PC - i.e. not going through the router at the moment?

I just have both computers plugged into the router. Network interface?

Is there a cable running from the back of your cable/dsl modem into your computer (kinda like a fat phone cord)?

Yes.

OK, cool. Some of the stuff I'm going to have you do will affect the internet connectivity on one of your computers for a bit. Okay, moving on:

1. Which do you have - cable or DSL (I might need to know this later)?
1a. If it's DSL, that brand and model modem do you have?
2. On the computer that is NOT plugged into the cable/dsl modem - Connect the patch cord (the fat phone cord thing) from the back of the computer to any one of the 3 ports marked "Ethernet" on the router.

With me so far?

I'm with ya, but I can't mess with the other unit while it's making recovery discs, I picked a bad time.

No big deal. If I have you do this on the PC that's connected to your cable/DSL modem (which is it?), you'll lose your internet connectivity for a bit - which makes doing this over the internet kinda tricky.

I'd say 20minutes or so.

How long do you figure until your recovery disks are done?

I'd say 15 minutes.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:20:32 PM EDT

[#29]

Well hell, I'll wait 20 minutes. Will your PC be usable by then (all I need is Windows installed and running - nothing else)?

BTW - Do you have cable or DSL? If it's DSL, what's the make/model of your DSL modem? Oh, and are you running Windows XP, 2000, 98, 95...?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:22:22 PM EDT

[#30]

Cable, running xp on both units.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:23:16 PM EDT

[#31]

Ask your wizard.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:23:21 PM EDT

[#32]

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Cable, running xp on both units.

Sweet. Cable makes it easier (no need to do PPPoE on the router, or bridge the modem). Let me know when you're ready. I'll be here.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:25:19 PM EDT

[#33]

Look at this, I'm ready!

Both units are on, running, online and connected to the same router via the fat telephone wire thingies.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:26:50 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
Look at this, I'm ready!

Both units are on, running, online and connected to the same router via the fat telephone wire thingies.

Whoah, hold the phone! Both PC's are plugged into the router, and the cable modem is plugged into the router as well?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:30:38 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Look at this, I'm ready!

Both units are on, running, online and connected to the same router via the fat telephone wire thingies.

Whoah, hold the phone! Both PC's are plugged into the router, and the cable modem is plugged into the router as well?

The internet goes into the router from the internet, then two computers are hooked up to ethernet out lines.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:33:07 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Look at this, I'm ready!

Both units are on, running, online and connected to the same router via the fat telephone wire thingies.

Whoah, hold the phone! Both PC's are plugged into the router, and the cable modem is plugged into the router as well?

The internet goes into the router from the internet, then two computers are hooked up to ethernet out lines.

The internet...ok, hold on. I need to make sure I've got this:

You have two computers. RIGHT NOW, both are plugged into one of the 3 jacks labled "Ethernet" on the router. The cable modem is plugged into the port labled "Internet" on the router. Is that right?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:35:00 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Look at this, I'm ready!

Both units are on, running, online and connected to the same router via the fat telephone wire thingies.

Whoah, hold the phone! Both PC's are plugged into the router, and the cable modem is plugged into the router as well?

The internet goes into the router from the internet, then two computers are hooked up to ethernet out lines.

The internet...ok, hold on. I need to make sure I've got this:

You have two computers. RIGHT NOW, both are plugged into one of the 3 jacks labled "Ethernet" on the router. The cable modem is plugged into the port labled "Internet" on the router. Is that right?

Yes.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:38:20 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Look at this, I'm ready!

Both units are on, running, online and connected to the same router via the fat telephone wire thingies.

Whoah, hold the phone! Both PC's are plugged into the router, and the cable modem is plugged into the router as well?

The internet goes into the router from the internet, then two computers are hooked up to ethernet out lines.

The internet...ok, hold on. I need to make sure I've got this:

You have two computers. RIGHT NOW, both are plugged into one of the 3 jacks labled "Ethernet" on the router. The cable modem is plugged into the port labled "Internet" on the router. Is that right?

Yes.

Well, hell. You've already got a working network. Can both computers get on the internet just fine? If so, what else did you want to know how to do (share files, or something)?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:39:53 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Look at this, I'm ready!

Both units are on, running, online and connected to the same router via the fat telephone wire thingies.

Whoah, hold the phone! Both PC's are plugged into the router, and the cable modem is plugged into the router as well?

The internet goes into the router from the internet, then two computers are hooked up to ethernet out lines.

The internet...ok, hold on. I need to make sure I've got this:

You have two computers. RIGHT NOW, both are plugged into one of the 3 jacks labled "Ethernet" on the router. The cable modem is plugged into the port labled "Internet" on the router. Is that right?

Yes.

Well, hell. You've already got a working network. Can both computers get on the internet just fine? If so, what else did you want to know how to do (share files, or something)?

Yes, I want files off of one unit onto the other. How to do this?

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:42:11 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Look at this, I'm ready!

Both units are on, running, online and connected to the same router via the fat telephone wire thingies.

Whoah, hold the phone! Both PC's are plugged into the router, and the cable modem is plugged into the router as well?

The internet goes into the router from the internet, then two computers are hooked up to ethernet out lines.

The internet...ok, hold on. I need to make sure I've got this:

You have two computers. RIGHT NOW, both are plugged into one of the 3 jacks labled "Ethernet" on the router. The cable modem is plugged into the port labled "Internet" on the router. Is that right?

Yes.

Well, hell. You've already got a working network. Can both computers get on the internet just fine? If so, what else did you want to know how to do (share files, or something)?

Yes, I want files off of one unit onto the other. How to do this?

It's easy enough. The answer depends on whether or not you have XP Home or Professional. I'll have to admit, I almost never see Windows XP Home Edition, so forgive me if my directions differ ever so slightly from what you see.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:43:29 PM EDT

[#41]

Home.

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:47:34 PM EDT

[#42]

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Home.

Figures.

I think it's close enough, though. Okay:

The idea here is to pick a folder you want to share with the other computer. "My Documents" is a good (and common) one, I suppose. Anyway, whatever folder you choose, do this:

1. Open "My Computer".
2. Click "Tools -> Folder Options"
3. Uncheck "Use Simple File Sharing".

Let me know if that much works (I'm hoping that it'll be similar to XP Pro this way)

Posted: 8/14/2006 4:51:25 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Home.

Figures.

I think it's close enough, though. Okay:

The idea here is to pick a folder you want to share with the other computer. "My Documents" is a good (and common) one, I suppose. Anyway, whatever folder you choose, do this:

1. Open "My Computer".
2. Click "Tools -> Folder Options"
3. Uncheck "Use Simple File Sharing".

Let me know if that much works (I'm hoping that it'll be similar to XP Pro this way)

Nope, not an option.

Posted: 8/14/2006 5:01:34 PM EDT

[#44]

I appreciate your patience, Subnet. I give up for now and am going to bed. You may now call me the name.

Posted: 8/14/2006 5:09:52 PM EDT

[#45]

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I appreciate your patience, Subnet. I give up for now and am going to bed. You may now call me the name.

Heh, no problem.

Basically, you should be able to right click in the folder you want to share, select "sharing", give the share a name, and click OK. On the other computer, you should be able to click Start->Run, type '\\<sharedComputerName>' and see the folder you shared. It MAY ask you for a name and a password, and you will simply provide a valid name and password of a user on the shared computer. That's kind of it, in a nutshell.

Posted: 8/14/2006 5:15:44 PM EDT

[#46]

Got to Explorer. Right click any folder you want to share. Choose "Properties". Click the "Sharing" tab. Click the box that says "Share this folder on the Network". Decide if you want to let others write and delete files from that folder. If yes, click "Allow network users to change my files". Click "OK. You are now GTG.

Posted: 8/14/2006 5:29:59 PM EDT

[#47]

Dare I say "Told ya so" Subnet?

No, I shant. Some day I'll be the guy who needs help!

Posted: 8/14/2006 5:31:47 PM EDT

[#48]

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Dare I say "Told ya so" Subnet?

No, I shant. Some day I'll be the guy who needs help!

I wanted to verify everything was cool before I started having him try things. But ya - you were right. Kinda.

Posted: 8/15/2006 1:11:12 PM EDT

[#49]

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Dare I say "Told ya so" Subnet?

No, I shant. Some day I'll be the guy who needs help!

Can't imagine what I did wrong to elicit that response, but whatever.

Posted: 8/15/2006 1:12:09 PM EDT

[#50]

camp, you need me to come over? you running XP on both machines?

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