Posted: 8/13/2006 9:14:42 PM EDT
| Ceasefire in Lebanon took effect at 1:00 a.m. EST. I don't think the IDF accomplished shit. Hopefully something will kick off a new wave of fighting and this time the Israeli's won't hold back. |
| It will hold, with fits and false starts, for a while. Israel needs to get its political house in order, and reevaluate their strategy, while Hezbollah needs to rearm and get more recruits trained. Sure, there will be some infractions, especially over the next few days, but it'll sorta hold for a few weeks to months, I bet. |
+1 Not one damn thing but losing soldiers and civies. Same shit 5 years ago, except Hezzie's got better weapons and more manpower. The West should just back the hell out of it, let Abe's kids take care of their business. Translation: "UN Ceasefire = Keep talking  , We're reloading." 
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Their immediate release was included in the resolution. Yeah right. No way in hell Hezzie is gonna turn them lose for free. They're going to milk the kidnapped soldiers for everything they can get, and when Isreal says no, all the Pali's are gonna say, "See we told you the West doesn't want peace. UN & every other POS lib will be in front of the every camera condeming Isreal. Effin Shitbags. |
1701 calls for the 'unconditional release', but not 'immediate' release, of the soldiers. Israel has already indicated that they will negotiate another prisoner exchange with Hezbollah. |
If they have [and I sure wouldn't doubt it], it'll probably be at least a 1:50 ratio. Which will only reinforce their resolve to keep KIDNAPPING. Either way, there will never be peace in the region without fear. If Hezzie/Hamas believe they can do what they want and the UN will just step in and stop the IDF, there will never be any kind of peace. And we (the West) will continue to fund both sides. 
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Yep. That's the way it's going down. It's all Israel's fault... and Bush too! |
ok thx for that, while I'm away at our lakehouse every weekend I have no internet and very little TV...and the news I saw did a lousy job (as usual) of reporting everything. |
As I have said many times in the other Izzie/Hezzie thread: Blaming America in ANY way, shape, or form for what happened there is fucking idiotic. We did NOTHING in regards to the UN until it became clear that Israel wasn't getting shit done. We ran interference AND rush-delivered munitions. But after a month of flailing around, even the Israeli gov't was eager for a ceasefire. |
I wonder if Dubbya and Condi would have been so quick to "lean" on Isreal if mid-term elections weren't just around the corner. Hmmm....is somebody sweating the poll #'s?? 
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So you think that a WHOLE MONTH should be enough time for Irael to take out Hezzballah. They didnot want a cease fire they wanted to finish this in there own time frame and not to have a time frame imposed on them by the UN, France, or the US |
+100 "Never sell out a good ass-whipping before it's time." |
 I've always been under the impression that Israel charts it's own course. I can imagine that any "suggestion" made by the US will carry weight, but when push comes to shove, Israel is going to do what Israel is going to do.
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You desperately need to clue youself into current events. It's not like the IDF was on a blitzkreig-like victory sweep, and we just stepped in to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. To put it simply for you, things were not going very well for Israel, and they are looking forward to this round ending. Blaming Bush for all the woes of the world is what the idiot moonbats specialize in; pay more attention next time so you don't make the same mistake. |
Do you really believe that we had no influence on what just happened The cease fire is because we wanted it. |
Not without the weapons and the billons from guess who. |
A typical Bush apologist, . Do not follow someone blindly if they are wrong. Military strategies change though out a war. |
 We could have kept our nose out of it and let the IDF fight and weaken something we're gonna have to deal with someday anyway (probably sooner than later). Like I said before, same weak ass UN shit from 5 years ago. |
That my friend is an understatement  He needs to reach to his base and those who elected him. Right now he is pandering to the left and that is why he has lost support . |
You do understand that the gov't of Israel wanted a ceasefire, right? The rockets have been falling on Israel unabated since day 1. Casualities were rising, and the Israeli population is VERY casualty averse. They had enough for now. The cheerleading for expanding the war comes from folks like you in America, not Israel.
You mean when Barak withdrew the IDF from S.Lebanon because of domestic pressure? Golly, was that too GWs fault?  Some of you need to pay more attention to the news. |
Yep, caving in and getting down on his knees to please the French and commi-libtards will not make them respect or support him. Ever. It only gives them a shorter path to keep kicking him in the teeth. |
So I should believe everything I hear? The media never gets the news straight unless it promotes it's agenda. It's always "spun like a top". |
Just glad I could help straighten the facts out for ya. 
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And there I was, believing that Olmert botched the whole job, and that General Adam being replaced was a sign of no confidence from the IDF general staff, and that resistance was much higher than expected, and that the effort to shut down the rockets failed, and all those other lies that the evil news services of the world promulgate in unison. Gosh, all I had to do was read your brilliant "It's Bushs' and the UNs fault!", and I could have saved myself all sorts of time. 
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 Yep, Olmert should have restrained even more, and "the job" would have worked like a charm. 8 dead soldiers would have pulled a Lazarus, and 2 others would have been home by dinner. And all 10 would have shown everyone how to walk on water after desert. General Adam should have never promised the world that he could have disarmed a 24 year old multiple state sponsored terrorist organization dedicated to the complete destruction of a sovereign nation in a mere 24 hours. The cabinet should have never believed it. Oh shame on them. Of course the resistance should have been known to be more than 100 elderly grandparents and a hand full of school girls. No excuse for his incompetence. Everyone knows that 13,000+ well hidden rockets can be found in 24 hours. Somebody should definitely answer for this. And the honorable news media doesn't show injured women and children for ratings -EVER. They would never do something like that. IDF hasn't shot down multiple drones acquired from Iran, and transported through Syria. That's another falsehood. They were just an illusion. Anybody needing to save some time probably already knows that though.   Bush and Kofi really did drive into Southern Lebanon and force Hezzie to invade Isreal. They threatned to take Hezzies' welcome wagon fruit baskets they had prepared for their neighbors to the South away. They rode in Dubbya's pickup and little George taught Kofi the words to the "Star Spangled Banner" on the way. Yep, it's all their fault alright. If it weren't for those 2 everybody would be making smores by now. 
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+100% Olmert blew it. Good post Tomislav. The next Israeli PM needs to be more like your avatar. |
Dunno if they'll quite get a Vlad Tepes , but hopefully, they get someone like: Dunno about Israeli politics, and what all is going to happen next. Vote of no confidence in the Knesset? Elections anytime soon? |