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7/8/2006 5:49:11 AM EDT
If you were in this car, would you "Draw Down" on this chap?

Warning bad language!

www.drinkalot.com/videos/crackhead1.wmv

Poll Coming
7/8/2006 6:06:18 AM EDT
[#1]
Maximum Ventilation
7/8/2006 6:18:26 AM EDT
[#2]
seen it before. and i would draw and shoot twice
7/8/2006 6:18:42 AM EDT
[#3]
Bang Bang Bang
7/8/2006 6:21:04 AM EDT
[#4]
I would definitely be in fear for my life, or serious injury, so I would draw and shoot that fucking guy the minute he got up to the driver's side window.  Then I would call my lawyer and the cops, in that order.
7/8/2006 6:22:40 AM EDT
[#5]
That video was proven to be a fake. The guy in the car that the "crackhead" bashed up was a buddy of his. The car was a rental.

But yes, if it were a real situation I would definitely draw down.
7/8/2006 6:23:08 AM EDT
[#6]
Wow.  Bye bye bad guy.

What's wierd is that my wife and I were at that very same shopping center in Vegas last December.

Sure glad I didn't run into that jackwipe.
7/8/2006 6:23:19 AM EDT
[#7]
For sure shoot when he came to the driver side and smashed that window. Would have drawn about the time he came into the street with the crow bar toward me. Other option: taze his ass and kick the guy with the camera in the nuts, then get the tape and have them both arrested.
7/8/2006 6:30:48 AM EDT
[#8]
Draw down? Id shoot his ass dead
7/8/2006 6:36:32 AM EDT
[#9]
Standard Arfcom answer. Option 3.
7/8/2006 6:43:58 AM EDT
[#10]
In my state, I don't think it would be a legal shoot, as I believe we are obligated to retreat, if possible, if we are anywhere but in our home or business. I don't think being in a car is an exception, especially if you can drive away.

If he had had a firearm, it may have been a different call, but with a crowbar, I think I would have had to retreat, since I would rather not do time.

ETA: I don't like the poll, as I don't consider retreat as doing nothing. In my state, retreat is required in most states, so doing so is being a law abiding citizen. To me, doing nothing would mean standing staill, and taking the beating.
7/8/2006 6:44:13 AM EDT
[#11]
Draw down or floor it when he started coming around the front of the vehicle.
7/8/2006 6:59:27 AM EDT
[#12]
I would try to drive away.  If I wasn't able to drive away, I'd draw and point my firearm at him and tell him to stop.  If he approached my driver door, or tried to get in the car, I'd fire.  If he had gotten to the point-the-gun stage and was in front of my car, I'd hit him with the vehicle.
7/8/2006 7:00:52 AM EDT
[#13]
Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang, reload and reevaluate.
7/8/2006 7:12:56 AM EDT
[#14]
He wouldn't last long acting like that in Florida.

7/8/2006 2:46:02 PM EDT
[#15]
Bump for the night crew!
7/8/2006 2:53:11 PM EDT
[#16]
"Officer, I was in fear of my life - I tried to drive away, but that guy kept hitting my car, then he broke out the rear window and one of the side windows.  I'm legally licensed to a carry a concealed firearm, and given no avenue of retreat, I drew and shot him."

Fake or not, that seems like a real good way to get yourself shot.  Especially if someone else in traffic saw this.  I know if I was in a car next to that PT Cruiser, and I saw this, as a dumb as it'd be, I would have shot that dude DRT.
7/8/2006 2:55:38 PM EDT
[#17]
I would be in fear of my life & serious bodily harm.

Double-tap to center of mass.


No question about it.

7/8/2006 2:56:22 PM EDT
[#18]
I would fear for my life:  Weapon, and subject appeared to be agitated or mentally unstable.  Would shoot until threat ended.  Acting like that in FL will get you killed.
7/8/2006 2:58:44 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
That video was proven to be a fake. The guy in the car that the "crackhead" bashed up was a buddy of his. The car was a rental.

But yes, if it were a real situation I would definitely draw down.



Do you have a link for that?
7/8/2006 2:59:05 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang, reload and reevaluate.





That's hard-core, and I like it.

7/8/2006 3:09:21 PM EDT
[#21]
I meant to click draw and shoot. I didnt see it.
7/8/2006 3:14:08 PM EDT
[#22]
Wow. I have been on that corner and walked down that street.

That is in Vegas.

That would be one dead mofo.
7/8/2006 3:15:26 PM EDT
[#23]
I couldn't understand a damn thing he was saying.  Maybe something like " I've done it all crack, gangbanging, etc.  He owns the streets and nobody can do anything to him".  I would have drawn and shot when he came to the drivers side window.
7/8/2006 3:21:13 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
I couldn't understand a damn thing he was saying.  Maybe something like " I've done it all crack, gangbanging, etc.  He owns the streets and nobody can do anything to him".  I would have drawn and shot when he came to the drivers side window.


+1000
7/8/2006 3:22:45 PM EDT
[#25]
I would draw my weapon and shoot to stop his attack on my life. In other words, I'd draw down on his ass and give him the chance to see the here-after.
7/8/2006 3:26:40 PM EDT
[#26]
What language was he using?
7/8/2006 3:28:35 PM EDT
[#27]
Well if that is fake, it is a good thing they didn't fake it in Texas.

I pretty sure a couple of people would have "drawn down" on his ass here.

We can shoot a stupid mother fucker like that to protect someone else from harm.
7/8/2006 3:45:11 PM EDT
[#28]
Even though that video is bullshit and is old as hell.

YES, I would've put a cap in his ass.
7/8/2006 3:47:37 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
What language was he using?

Ebonics, with a bit of Hood Rat mixed in.
7/8/2006 3:56:14 PM EDT
[#30]
"He wouldn't last long acting like that in Florida."


Word.
7/8/2006 4:36:14 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What language was he using?

Ebonics, with a bit of Hood Rat mixed in.



Thanks for the laugh!  

Hood Rat...  

7/8/2006 4:38:38 PM EDT
[#32]
dead man
7/8/2006 4:44:57 PM EDT
[#33]
Draw, point, advise him to stop, BANG BANG BANG. Ensure threat is stopped. Take a nap until PD shows up.
7/8/2006 5:01:17 PM EDT
[#34]
In Ebonics:

Hey MoFo, I'm gonna bust a cap in yo ass. Know what I'm sayin'?



In English:

Two to the chest
and one to the head.
That's how to make him
good and dead.
7/8/2006 5:09:14 PM EDT
[#35]
I would have tried to flee in my vehice, he's too close and odds are not in your favor at that range.  Since he picked up the hammer beside the street, the driver wouldn't have gotten any warning prior to the attack...   I can only imagine how much worse it would be with my child in the car....  Suddenly 100k for a small arms rated car doens't seem so expensive..

bullet proof cars



7/8/2006 5:11:09 PM EDT
[#36]
That fucktard looks a good environmentally safe lead receptacle to me.....There didn't seem like an immediate avenue of retreat to begin with,start plugging.......
7/8/2006 5:34:20 PM EDT
[#37]
I'm pretty certain that in my panic to escape I would have lost control of the vehicle. Most likely when he was standing directly in front of, or behind it.
7/8/2006 5:45:16 PM EDT
[#38]
A smart cop once told me...."when in doubt, empty the fucking magazine"
7/8/2006 5:52:55 PM EDT
[#39]
OC.

Draw pistol.

Reevaluate.


7/8/2006 5:54:18 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
If you were in this car, would you "Draw Down" on this chap?

Warning bad language!

www.drinkalot.com/videos/crackhead1.wmv

Poll Coming


He would not survive an attack like that on me. Period.

I would either run his ass over, or put a bullet in him.
7/8/2006 6:00:30 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
I would have tried to flee in my vehice, he's too close and odds are not in your favor at that range.  Since he picked up the hammer beside the street, the driver wouldn't have gotten any warning prior to the attack...   I can only imagine how much worse it would be with my child in the car....  Suddenly 100k for a small arms rated car doens't seem so expensive..

bullet proof cars





You have firearm and a car as weapons and you have a the car as shelter. He has crowbar,, id say your odds are in your favor.
7/8/2006 6:30:39 PM EDT
[#42]
The man armed with the deadly weapon attacking me = Bang Bang Bang Bang until the violent, unwarranted attack on me is neutralized.  

The man with the camera = Bang Bang Bang Bang reevaluate for more violent threats against me.  

I would draw down on him if I was in traffic near the person being violently attacked.  I would give him a opportunity to disarm himself.  If he continued his violent, unprovoked attack on the person in the vehicle, Bang Bang Bang Bang until the violent, unwarranted attack on the unarmed citizen was neutralized.  

Call 911.  

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