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6/27/2006 10:04:20 PM EDT
OK... so I'm a dork.









6/27/2006 10:05:12 PM EDT
[#1]
Uh? huh?
6/27/2006 10:06:44 PM EDT
[#2]
model the death star if you are a true dork!
6/27/2006 10:08:56 PM EDT
[#3]
cooler and geekier LINK
6/27/2006 10:12:12 PM EDT
[#4]
I'll resist the obligatory Uranus joke and just say this boggles the mind.
6/27/2006 10:13:29 PM EDT
[#5]
Ok
6/27/2006 10:13:42 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
model the death star if you are a true dork!



lmao
6/27/2006 10:17:18 PM EDT
[#7]
Actually that is suprisingly accurate.  Did you generate those yourself?  Astronomy > all
6/27/2006 10:27:59 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I'll resist the obligatory Uranus joke and just say this boggles the mind.



I wont!

Man Uranus isn't as big as I thought it was!
6/27/2006 10:30:43 PM EDT
[#9]
Nice!
6/27/2006 10:33:41 PM EDT
[#10]
So when someone says they'd give you the world, they don't really mean much by it, right?
6/27/2006 10:39:13 PM EDT
[#11]
a little back story would help.
6/27/2006 10:41:34 PM EDT
[#12]
would be nice if we got VV Cephei modeled too!
6/27/2006 10:41:57 PM EDT
[#13]
OH my!! I was thinking of doing the same dorky thing.............HA!! yea right.
6/28/2006 1:07:42 PM EDT
[#14]
It boggles my mind when I try to think about the size, and the vastness of space... it truly leaves me humbled, just to think how far away mars is alone. Anyway, I only posted because I thought some here would enjoy.

It's a shame that all you have to do is post a thread about 9/11 or something regarding your girlfriend or wife acting funny, and the thread becomes 16 pages long.

It’s really sad…
6/28/2006 1:10:33 PM EDT
[#15]
Those are kind of crappy pictures, but the scale is interesting.
6/28/2006 1:11:28 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
It boggles my mind when I try to think about the size, and the vastness of space... it truly leaves me humbled, just to think how far away mars is alone. Anyway, I only posted because I thought some here would enjoy.

It's a shame that all you have to do is post a thread about 9/11 or something regarding your girlfriend or wife acting funny, and the thread becomes 16 pages long.

It’s really sad…




took astronomy in college

hyperbolic universe theory was interesting as was the theory concerning parallel universes.

string theory, etc. fascinating stuff...the physics involved hurt my brain on more than one occasion.
6/28/2006 1:11:47 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
It boggles my mind when I try to think about the size, and the vastness of space... it truly leaves me humbled, just to think how far away mars is alone. Anyway, I only posted because I thought some here would enjoy.

It's a shame that all you have to do is post a thread about 9/11 or something regarding your girlfriend or wife acting funny, and the thread becomes 16 pages long.

It’s really sad…



Interesting post.  Thanks.
6/28/2006 1:15:28 PM EDT
[#18]
Amazing, just amazing.
6/28/2006 1:16:55 PM EDT
[#19]
Cool stuff. Thanks.
6/28/2006 1:18:24 PM EDT
[#20]
those images are amazing.  My wife is an amateur astronamer, (sp?) can't wait to show her
6/28/2006 1:18:50 PM EDT
[#21]
rgr that

6/28/2006 1:21:09 PM EDT
[#22]
I don't believe the last one. The sun is 1 pixel compared to Antares in that pic??  



According to Wikipedia regarding Antares:

Antares is a class M supergiant star, with a diameter of approximately 9.24 × 108 km, or slightly more than the distance from the Sun to Jupiter, and is approximately 600 light years from earth. Visually, its luminosity is about 10,000 times that of the Sun but overall, taking into account that the star radiates a considerable part of its energy in the infrared part of the spectrum the luminosity equals roughly 65,000 times that of the Sun. The mass of the star is calculated to be 15 to 18 solar masses. Its large size and relatively small mass give Antares a very low density.



So it's 15-18 solar masses. Our star = 1 solar mass. The volume vs mass just doesn't add up. Sorry.

Edit: It says Antares's diameter is about that of the distance between the sun to Jupiter. Our star should still be very visible by comparison in that pic.
6/28/2006 1:21:43 PM EDT
[#23]
I had never seen that size perspective before.  Very interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.
6/28/2006 1:22:25 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
It boggles my mind when I try to think about the size, and the vastness of space... it truly leaves me humbled, just to think how far away mars is alone. Anyway, I only posted because I thought some here would enjoy.




I remember when I was a kid and I first grasped the concept that space and the universe were endless.  I remember how baffling and unsettling that was.  How could there be no beginning or end and even if there were then what was there before the start?

I think as we leave childhood most of us lose that childlike wonder and no longer notice just how astonishing things are.
6/28/2006 1:56:29 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
I had never seen that size perspective before.  Very interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.


Very interesting.
6/28/2006 1:58:37 PM EDT
[#26]
Gotta Love It!!!!

Now, are we talking about the Rigel 1 system, or the Rigel 7 system??
6/28/2006 2:03:36 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
It boggles my mind when I try to think about the size, and the vastness of space... it truly leaves me humbled, just to think how far away mars is alone. Anyway, I only posted because I thought some here would enjoy.

It's a shame that all you have to do is post a thread about 9/11 or something regarding your girlfriend or wife acting funny, and the thread becomes 16 pages long.

It’s really sad…



If I may...

...the reason is probably simple. Most of us don't know a whole heck of alot about astronomy, and a good many just aren't into it. If I started a thread talking about ACD and IVR systems, and the wonder that is CTI integration, it'd be a short lived thread. Nobody would care.

We've all given 9/11 a lot of thought, and all of us know a little something about our women acting funny. So the threads are more popular. More people have something to add. When I read this post, all I can think to say is "Wow. Those planets are big compared to ours". In fact, most of the replies you'll get will be a variation on just that. I don't think it's sad at all, it's just shows that the population as a whole doesn't spend much time thinking about astronomy. No biggie.
6/28/2006 2:06:34 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted: ...the reason is... most of us don't know a whole heck of alot about astronomy, and a good many just aren't into it.
I remember when I was in boy scouts and earned the astronomy merit badge, my parents (born again, pentacostal) thought astronomy was the same as astrology and freaked. Of course, they (due to their brainwashing) saw satanic influences everywhere, music, movies, tv shows, you name it. Too damn funny in retrospect. I remember actually having an arguement with my dad about the realistic possibility of life on some other planet anywhere in the entire universe was not only possible but probable. Why would God create only one race - why wouldn't he populate several planets?
6/28/2006 2:08:43 PM EDT
[#29]
I thought several Earths could fit into Jupiter's red spot? Have I been misinformed or is it not 100% to scale?
6/28/2006 2:13:33 PM EDT
[#30]
i wonder how long it woudl take to fly around jupitor
6/28/2006 2:19:21 PM EDT
[#31]
Cool, the models even show Jupiter's oblateness caused by its 10-hour rotation (the equator travels at about 28,000 mph at the equator, as opposed to the Earth's 1,000 mph)!
6/28/2006 2:20:08 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
Why would God create only one race - why wouldn't he populate several planets?



1. Because he created man in his image.

2. I go against standard Christian dogma and believe that there is ENDLESS life in the universe, in all shapes, sizes, and forms. But I believe that the top of the food chain everywhere is mankind because we are the only beings capable of at least trying to emulate our creator.

BTW... I always had a fascination with Asronomy and Astrophysics and wanted to enter that profession. But as much as I was good at math and like it, I just want THAT geeky or good at it. So I'd rather just look at the endless night sky and be awed like our ancestors.
6/28/2006 2:21:22 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
I thought several Earths could fit into Jupiter's red spot? Have I been misinformed or is it not 100% to scale?



The red spot does change size, and it only fits two or three Earths at its very widest point.  Due to powerful latitudinal (is that a word) winds caused by the rapid rotation, the red spot is flattened out.
6/28/2006 2:23:22 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
I remember when I was a kid and I first grasped the concept that space and the universe were endless.  I remember how baffling and unsettling that was.  How could there be no beginning or end and even if there were then what was there before the start?

I think as we leave childhood most of us lose that childlike wonder and no longer notice just how astonishing things are.



I know how you feel; and that's a good question... where did we every stop imagining, as adults???

I think it is because we watch too much TV, and fall into the proverbial 'rat race' as Robert Kiyosaki calls it.
6/28/2006 2:23:45 PM EDT
[#35]
But we've got the internet...
6/28/2006 2:24:23 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
i wonder how long it woudl take to fly around jupitor



it depens on how fast your goign.
6/28/2006 2:25:09 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
If I may...

...the reason is probably simple. Most of us don't know a whole heck of alot about astronomy, and a good many just aren't into it. If I started a thread talking about ACD and IVR systems, and the wonder that is CTI integration, it'd be a short lived thread. Nobody would care.

We've all given 9/11 a lot of thought, and all of us know a little something about our women acting funny. So the threads are more popular. More people have something to add. When I read this post, all I can think to say is "Wow. Those planets are big compared to ours". In fact, most of the replies you'll get will be a variation on just that. I don't think it's sad at all, it's just shows that the population as a whole doesn't spend much time thinking about astronomy. No biggie.



Well put, but it could also indicate the collective IQ of the board?
*kidding*
6/28/2006 2:26:49 PM EDT
[#38]
 That was interesting. Thanks.
6/28/2006 2:36:35 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
I don't believe the last one. The sun is 1 pixel compared to Antares in that pic??  



According to Wikipedia regarding Antares:

Antares is a class M supergiant star, with a diameter of approximately 9.24 × 108 km, or slightly more than the distance from the Sun to Jupiter, and is approximately 600 light years from earth. Visually, its luminosity is about 10,000 times that of the Sun but overall, taking into account that the star radiates a considerable part of its energy in the infrared part of the spectrum the luminosity equals roughly 65,000 times that of the Sun. The mass of the star is calculated to be 15 to 18 solar masses. Its large size and relatively small mass give Antares a very low density.



So it's 15-18 solar masses. Our star = 1 solar mass. The volume vs mass just doesn't add up. Sorry.

Edit: It says Antares's diameter is about that of the distance between the sun to Jupiter. Our star should still be very visible by comparison in that pic.



Alien-

    That is part of the reason for the comparison.

The fact that the sun IS so small and Antares that big shows what the difference between Volume and Mass us.  Simply because the star Antares only masses 18 times what the star Sol does has little meaning for how much ROOM it takes up.

As a supergiant it may be Very Cool, when compared to Sol, having much lower surface temperatures.

The comparison to the distance between Sol and Jupiter is very good, as is shows exactly how FAR it is between Jupiter and Sol, with Sol able to heat and light Jupiter, at least to some degree.

So, Mass is not necessarily equal to Volume.
6/28/2006 2:37:35 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
It boggles my mind when I try to think about the size, and the vastness of space... it truly leaves me humbled, just to think how far away mars is alone. Anyway, I only posted because I thought some here would enjoy.

It's a shame that all you have to do is post a thread about 9/11 or something regarding your girlfriend or wife acting funny, and the thread becomes 16 pages long.

It’s really sad…




What program did you use for the models?'

Are they done in Actual Size?  
6/28/2006 2:49:14 PM EDT
[#41]
O_P has proven time and time again that size matters with bullets.  The bigger the bullet, the bigger the hole.  

HH
6/28/2006 2:53:13 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
2. I go against standard Christian dogma and believe that there is ENDLESS life in the universe, in all shapes, sizes, and forms. But I believe that the top of the food chain everywhere is mankind because we are the only beings capable of at least trying to emulate our creator.



I wish somebody would fill the rest of us Christians in on this "standard Christian dogma" stuff. I've never heard that life on earth was all there was before.






Cool analysis gunsandguitars
6/28/2006 2:53:21 PM EDT
[#43]
I find this fascinating. To even begin to think about the vastness of space will stretch your minds boundries. Thanks for posting this.
6/28/2006 2:57:19 PM EDT
[#44]
Amazing.
6/28/2006 3:04:34 PM EDT
[#45]
I'm just waiting for someone to discover a system that is similar to earth with lots of tasty animals for me to hunt on

ETA: And has cheap real-estate
6/28/2006 3:08:55 PM EDT
[#46]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
6/28/2006 3:10:19 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Why would God create only one race - why wouldn't he populate several planets?



1. Because he created man in his image.

2. I go against standard Christian dogma and believe that there is ENDLESS life in the universe, in all shapes, sizes, and forms. But I believe that the top of the food chain everywhere is mankind because we are the only beings capable of at least trying to emulate our creator.

BTW... I always had a fascination with Asronomy and Astrophysics and wanted to enter that profession. But as much as I was good at math and like it, I just want THAT geeky or good at it. So I'd rather just look at the endless night sky and be awed like our ancestors.



Yes, God created mankind in His Own Image. But, what makes anybody think that God didn't create other mankind in His Own Image on other planets?

The only record of creation and "God" we have is based on the religious texts of planet earth. How do we know that what we've been told for centuries is wrong? How do we know it's right? There is no PROOF that God did not create other mankind races on other planets. Afterall, God is God and can do whatever He (or She) wants!

6/28/2006 3:11:55 PM EDT
[#48]
just insignificant little specs with attitude. how funny we all are.
6/28/2006 3:20:39 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
 That was interesting. Thanks.



I agree.
6/28/2006 3:39:42 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
Gotta Love It!!!!

Now, are we talking about the Rigel 1 system, or the Rigel 7 system??



If standard terminology is being used, RIgel is the star, and Rigel1 is the first planet, Rigel7 is the seventh.  I don't think there are seven Rigels out there.
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