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Posted: 8/28/2001 10:20:46 AM EDT
Okay, so I almost never go in places like that, and I buy all my guns at gun shows, but I needed another 10/.22 for a project, and no gun shows in sight, so……..into Walmart. What a disgusting experience. When all the usual fol-di-rol was over, (with lots of nasty looks from other shoppers and other clerks, including one mouth-breathing clerk saying “Oh, oh, oh” and shaking his head…..about a half-hour total) the clerk says, “Now the store manager has to check it all over” So we wait. And wait. Finally the guy shows up and proceeds to go back over every single line in every single paper. Took 20 minutes. Now it’s all okay, but I can’t carry the thing out. The manager must escort me to the door, and carry the Ruger. Everyone’s looking at me as if I’d just been caught stealing something. Corporate policy…they “Don’t want any guns in the store” (His words). I asked what happens if a police officer comes in. “Oh, they have to check in with me…they can’t be allowed to just wander around” (Are you listening, LEOs?) The war is over….the liberals won. We just don’t know it yet.
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 10:25:56 AM EDT
Coorprate policy as in all of WalMart or just that store. I refuse to believe that any war is over! [sniper]
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 10:28:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Celt: I asked what happens if a police officer comes in. “Oh, they have to check in with me…they can’t be allowed to just wander around” (Are you listening, LEOs?)
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I'd like to see him tell a cop that he can't carry his weapon in the store! That'd be a sight. Also, what about CCW license holders? There's not a sign in front of the Wal-Mart that I go to that says no guns..? Ian
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 10:31:28 AM EDT
i carry everywhere i go here in VT. yes, even in WAL-mart! id like to see them toss me out, if i dont check in with their dork-in-charge. if they dont want any guns in the store, they better put a metal detector and signs all over saying so. the store would close pretty fast i imagine.
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 10:31:50 AM EDT
Their policies are lame. I got a 10/22 there and they did all of that. I used my CCW to bypass the NICS check, but they still had to carry the unloaded, new gun outside the premises for me. Of course, I wouldn't want to upset them by letting them know I have a loaded .45 on me, it's not like I'm purchasing the gun to go on a rampage in their store. If it's any consolation, F Troop won't be happy when they see that the back of the 4473 is filled out wrong. The caliber is "10/22", I have no idea what the number was they put in the "Model" column. I did my part right, and it's not my license. [:)]
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 10:36:02 AM EDT
Arnt you allowed to carry with a license anywhere besides banks, gov. buildings, and schools? [sniper]
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 10:53:31 AM EDT
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When I lived in I-Oh-Way our town was "blessed" with a brand new Wally World. Shortly after they opened their doors some of my shooting buddies began buying all of their blasting ammo there instead of frequenting our local gun shop. I warned them. They took their business of Wally World and then were pi$$ed when the proprietor of our local arms emporium was forced to raise prices to cover what he was losing in ammo sales. Needless to say, he went under. Now when Wally World decides that guns aren't PC and opts to stop selling them - what are my buddies going to do? Sure, save a buck... shop at "gun friendly" Wally World! [frag]
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 10:59:01 AM EDT
Escorting gun purchases out the door is nothing new at Wal-Fart. The last time I bought a firearm there (1994) it was like this. Corporate policy they said. I was a Wal-Fart hater way before it was fashionable. Where were you guys?
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 11:12:23 AM EDT
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I'll plead late to the party 'cause I've only been inside one maybe three times in my life...but I'm with you now. BTW...friend of mine made a good observation: "Just look around at who's in there...if they let cops wander around, half their shoppers would leave"
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 11:20:55 AM EDT
I bought a shotgun there years back...same BS. I actually had to go out and put my new shotgun in the car and come back to buy shells! They would NOT sell the gun and ammo together. If I had really intended harm, this little policy only would have delayed me for a minute or two...hell I would have preferred to load at my convenience in my vehicle rather than in the store with hundreds watching! I will NOT buy firearms or ammo from Wally again!
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 11:35:42 AM EDT
I have been in a WalMart a couple of times.Will never go back in one again.Look at the sidewalk as you enter,chewing gum all over the place.The people inside look to be the lowest forms of life,both customer's and employee's.
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 11:40:50 AM EDT
Had the same thing happen to me a couple of years ago when WalMart had 10/22s on sale. I used my CHL to bypass the NICS but they still wanted to call it in and I protested. After a couple of phone calls they figured out it was not necessary. Then they noticed that I did not put down my SS# and said I couldn't take the gun unless I put it down, even though it clearly states (OPTIONAL) next to the box on the yellow form. Again, a couple of phone calls cleared up this mess and I finally got to pay for it. I too was not allowed to purchase any ammo at the time of sale. I was then told that the sporting goods manager would have to walk the gun out to my car. I decided I was going to mess with them a little bit for the trouble they had given me so far, so I asked for the store manager. When he arrived I asked that a NICS be done on the person who was going to walk MY gun out to my car. I said that if I just let some stranger walk around with my gun that I could possibly be charged with providing a firearm to a felon. He said it sounded reasonable to him and they actually ran an NICS on the lady to make me happy. I was laughing my ass off on the inside. She came up clean and we proceeded to my car. It was great. I think everyone else should try this. They may say no, but then you can just get their name and tell them that you are going to express your displeasure with corporate. Don't let people hassle you for free, you always need to pay them back the favor. Michael
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 11:53:46 AM EDT
I think everyone else should try this.
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I would rather everyone not do business with them. I got aggravated with their predatory pricing and aggressive nature towards everyone. I've seen Wal-Fart move into communities here, undercut everyone, force out the little guys, and then stop carrying anything. I'm not talking about guns either. I'm talking about infant formulas, household items, small appliances (toasters, coffee pots, etc.), electronics, and now grocery items. BTW, wasn't Billary on their board of directors at one time? What do you want to bet that she still holds quite a bit of stock in Wal-Fart?
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 12:17:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Jim_Dandy: I would rather everyone not do business with them. I got aggravated with their predatory pricing and aggressive nature towards everyone. I've seen Wal-Fart move into communities here, undercut everyone, force out the little guys, and then stop carrying anything. I'm not talking about guns either. I'm talking about infant formulas, household items, small appliances (toasters, coffee pots, etc.), electronics, and now grocery items. BTW, wasn't Billary on their board of directors at one time? What do you want to bet that she still holds quite a bit of stock in Wal-Fart?
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This is the exact reason I won't shop with them. They are a monopoly. They come into little country towns, and force the local shops out of buisness. Plus they hire trolls for workers who can't add or subtract. If I say anymore I'm going to throw something across the room.
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 12:23:16 PM EDT
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I bought 29 box's of UMC .223 from wally world. [(:|)]artbell[(:|)]
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 12:29:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 4:00:10 PM EDT
I've been told banks are ok, just be darn sure it's concealed well as people will panic more in a bank if they see a gun
Originally Posted By Lihr: Arnt you allowed to carry with a license anywhere besides banks, gov. buildings, and schools? [sniper]
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Link Posted: 8/28/2001 4:05:09 PM EDT
Yeah, in Texas banks are fine for concealed carry as long as they aren't posted. There have been a few banks that decided to post around here, particuarly in the Dallas area, that promptly changed their mind as soon as people started closing their accounts and letting them know whey they were doing it. Michael
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 4:16:55 PM EDT
This isn't really related to the gun topic but it is about Wal Mart and it is pretty funny. It seems that one small town in Texas near me found a way to force Wal Mart to leave their community. Did they use zoning? No. Boycott? No. They shoplifted them out of business. No kidding they closed the door on the store because more merchandise was leaving the store without being paid for than was leaving after being paid for. Serves the bastards right. Aggie1
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 4:33:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Aggie1: This isn't really related to the gun topic but it is about Wal Mart and it is pretty funny. It seems that one small town in Texas near me found a way to force Wal Mart to leave their community. Did they use zoning? No. Boycott? No. They shoplifted them out of business. No kidding they closed the door on the store because more merchandise was leaving the store without being paid for than was leaving after being paid for. Serves the bastards right. Aggie1
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I once heard a statistic that WalMarts prices are increased by $.50 on the dollar to make up for what they lose on shop lifting. Seems kind of high to me, but it might be true. I wish I could remember where I read it. Another side note....Near where I live used to be an Oscar Meyer plant that shut down because there were so many workmans comp claims. So many people were working the system that it was making the plant unprofitable so they laid everybody off and shut the doors. Kind of sad for the people who worked hard, but the other got their just desserts I think. Michael
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 4:58:29 PM EDT
What is with all the crap about ccw in banks? Here you just carry open in the bank. No one even blinks. Guess it's just Idaho. God I love it here. We had a call from dispatch on city primary last week -man with a gun- no one even went to look. Having a gun is not a crime and our officers know. God I love it here. From the land of the free. Planerench out.
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 5:11:53 PM EDT
for my one and only experience, bought a 22 rifle and box of ammo. had to argue over the ss# on the form and the number of copies that they were making. asked if we should go to school supplies, get a dictionary and look up the meaning of optional. two 'trained staff' attempted to memorize the form as if they were studying for a test, then the manager had to be called over to look at every scrap of info on the form. they rang up the rifle and ammo as one purchase, but it took two trips- one to have the manager carry out the rifle, and the second to have them carry out the ammo. time wasted-approx. one hour. sorry, but life is too short to be wasted like this.
Link Posted: 8/28/2001 5:19:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/28/2001 5:22:40 PM EDT by SouthernShark]
I've got to buck the trend, I buy all my pistol ammo from Wal Mart and I've never had a negative experience there. I've never bought a gun there but I've bought cases of .45 and 9mm there. I've never gotten a bad vibe. One of the guys who works the ammo section is very pro-gun. He knows me on sight now, and he actually knows quite a lot about pistols. He is a retired guy who just works it for extra money. Now K-mart, that's a totally different story. Back when they sold ammo I got such bad vibes in that place I told them to shove it. I didn't care when they officially stopped selling ammo because I had stopped shopping there a long time ago. Wal-Mart though has never done me wrong. The fact that they carry the gun out of the store is really not a big deal. I worked in retail for a long time, and I've got to say that I had more than one customer who I wouldn't have wanted in my shop with a gun. Remember they can't tell one guy that he can't carry the gun out and then let the next guy do it. -SS
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 6:26:55 AM EDT
The wife goes to WallyWorld for her perscriptions, I go to the sporting goods to harrasss the workers there. I go to buy a box of 22lr shells. They always ask if it's for a handgun or long gun, I tell them it's for a machinegun. I never fails to get the manager called.
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 7:23:59 AM EDT
Having wasted 3 good years of my life as an employee of a Wal-Mart, lemme tell y'all, you don't know the half of it. The customer base is the cheapest, most ignorant bunch of yahoos you can imagine. Customer service is terrible for several reasons.1)Wal Mart, the good corporate citizen hires a lot of minorities(who lack basic English skills), seniors ( who can greet you at the door when they're not in the break room bitching about their colon/prostate/feet/earhair) and handicapped ( who, in the good old days, we called retards).2)Wal-Mart tries to run the smallest crew they can. So cuts come in the form of able bodied, intelligent associates(wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings by calling them employees), leaving you with old folks, retards and people who can't speak english. I could go on for days but let me tell you about when I ran the gun counter. As Department Manager of Sporting Goods, I did my best to educate everyone about real gun issues, the law, and reality. One day I come back from lunch and the cashier says" I sold one of those rifles(pointing to an empty space in the disply case)." "Good," says I."What manager walked it out?" "Oh,I just let him take it." she replies. I sez,"So, who signed the paperwork and made the Brady Call?" She says,"What paperwork?" I was mad as hell that they sent me a cashier that they sent me cashiers who know NOTHING about the departments they work in, and happy as hell that somebody walked out of there with a new,no paperwork Mini14. And management's response to my informing them we had commited a FEDERAL FELONY? "As long as it was paid for, we're not gonna worry too much about it." Good corporate citizen.
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 7:26:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Lihr: Arnt you allowed to carry with a license anywhere besides banks, gov. buildings, and schools? [sniper]
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Banks are not exempted from CCW. That's a popular myth, but it is not so.
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 8:07:10 AM EDT
My wife worked in the sporting goods department at a Wal Mart briefly. She often griped about the same policies you all are complaining about. The manager of the department was pro-gun and allowed her to post information I printed off the computer informing customers about the Democrat's anti-gun agenda before the last election. This particular store considered posting no firearms allowed signs but decided against it and settled on restricting employees only. She has her CCW permit and ignored that policy while she was there.
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 9:03:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 50cal: The wife goes to WallyWorld for her perscriptions, I go to the sporting goods to harrasss the workers there. I go to buy a box of 22lr shells. They always ask if it's for a handgun or long gun, I tell them it's for a machinegun. I never fails to get the manager called.
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I LOVE it! I went through the same thing this past weekend. I bought 4 boxes of the .22's (2400rnds). Just for fun I told the cashier (whom I sure didn't know a .22 from a howitzer) that the 1st box was NOT for a handgun, the second box WAS for a handgun and the remaining two were each HALF for handgun and HALF for rifle. This promted a call to the manager as well. Next time I'm going to give them the "machinegun" answer!
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 9:30:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 50cal: The wife goes to WallyWorld for her perscriptions, I go to the sporting goods to harrasss the workers there. I go to buy a box of 22lr shells. They always ask if it's for a handgun or long gun, I tell them it's for a machinegun. I never fails to get the manager called.
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i got to remember that one "oh its for my sub gun"
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 9:36:38 AM EDT
Yeah, the machinegun thing is the shit. I buy tons of .22LR there cause its so cheap and I get tired of answering that stupid question over and over. Michael
Link Posted: 8/30/2001 7:12:31 AM EDT
Why don't you tell them that you're buying .22 ammo to throw into the bonfire at the high school pep-rally? [grenade]
Link Posted: 8/30/2001 7:31:01 AM EDT
Wally changed his attitude when his store manager was gunned down in the parking lot by a wacko about three years ago here in SoCal. But I do give him the business as he gives me the best deal. I'll put up with his dim salespeople and greeters. I aspire to be a senior citizen too someday, and I'll probably be quaint with my AR-15 regalia and old Harley. One of our sporting goods associates, an American of German missionary parents was orphaned by the japanese in WWII and lived a subsistence existence after they pulled out of his island and the locals had a free-for-all. He had a full-auto Thompsons before he knew how to drive and witnessed pregnant women disembowled in front of their homes by thugs there as well. He's the greatest representative of gun owners you could ever find. Unfortunately he told me things have never been the same after Sam Walton died, as you and I know the ol' corporate shuffle.
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