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5/31/2006 8:41:18 AM EDT
And you thought blasting off Tannerite was fun...


www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9xCgNdZPKk
5/31/2006 8:42:49 AM EDT
[#1]
Is this the thing that creates so much overpressure it disembowels its victims or something like that?
5/31/2006 8:44:14 AM EDT
[#2]
All the fun of a nuke without the bitter aftertaste(radiation).
5/31/2006 8:44:44 AM EDT
[#3]
I still like the video I saw in EOD school with the FAE bomb and a bunch of monkeys in high chairs and bunkers.
5/31/2006 8:46:44 AM EDT
[#4]


Someone call mythbusters, they could come up with something cool for this.
5/31/2006 8:47:55 AM EDT
[#5]
I have an animated GIF of one at home disembowling a house.
5/31/2006 8:48:27 AM EDT
[#6]
Watching the 1st part of the slow motion, I was like "big deal" then the 2nd one came and I was like "woot!"

Nice video.

5/31/2006 8:52:34 AM EDT
[#7]
schwiiiing!!!!!!
5/31/2006 8:54:13 AM EDT
[#8]
Couldn't that just be improvised with a tannerite charge in a 5 gal gas can with a flare 10 feet away?
5/31/2006 8:55:16 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Couldn't that just be improvised with a tannerite charge in a 5 gal gas can with a flare 10 feet away?



Tell you what, I'll hold your beer for you
5/31/2006 8:56:43 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Couldn't that just be improvised with a tannerite charge in a 5 gal gas can with a flare 10 feet away?



Uhhhh I think that the explosive they use for FAE type bombs is a bit more potent than tannerite dude. There is a difference between all of the different types of explosives out there.
5/31/2006 9:33:45 AM EDT
[#11]
tag
5/31/2006 12:48:47 PM EDT
[#12]
Tag for home where I can watch the video.


-K
5/31/2006 12:55:27 PM EDT
[#13]
The military already has a weapon like this if Im not wrong.  I saw somewhere that its dropped from above and it will suck all the air out of an area killing everyone below.  

Can someone chime in on this more?


Quoted:
And you thought blasting off Tannerite was fun...


www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9xCgNdZPKk

5/31/2006 1:26:38 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
The military already has a weapon like this if Im not wrong.  I saw somewhere that its dropped from abive and it will suck all the air out of an area killing everyone below.  

Can someone chime in on this more?


Quoted:
And you thought blasting off Tannerite was fun...


www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9xCgNdZPKk




I think you might be thinking of a daisy cutter from that movie Outbreak? There is a larger/similar bomb that they have now called the MOAB.

Here's the military's version of the FAE bomb :

5/31/2006 1:44:16 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
The military already has a weapon like this if Im not wrong.....



+1   I remember seeing FAE footage during GW1.
5/31/2006 1:45:17 PM EDT
[#16]
Tag
5/31/2006 1:49:35 PM EDT
[#17]
DIY Fuel Air Bomb… don't try this in your back yard!

Materials required…

Box of matches…
Disposable BBQ (Large Size)
Large disposable propane gas canister

Place canister on BBQ, light, retire to a safe distance…

ANdy
5/31/2006 1:50:58 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
DIY Fuel Air Bomb… don't try this in your back yard!

Materials required…

Box of matches…
Disposable BBQ (Large Size)
Large disposable propane gas canister

Place canister on BBQ, light, retire to a safe distance…

ANdy



Hey Bubba, hold my beer and watch this.
5/31/2006 1:54:07 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
DIY Fuel Air Bomb… don't try this in your back yard!

Materials required…

Box of matches…
Disposable BBQ (Large Size)
Large disposable propane gas canister

Place canister on BBQ, light, retire to a safe distance…

ANdy



Hey Bubba, hold my beer and watch this.




The first time I did it I was a young teen, I did not stand back quite far enough…

What you been doing? You look sunburned…

Nothing mom…

ANdy
5/31/2006 1:55:39 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
DIY Fuel Air Bomb… don't try this in your back yard!

Materials required…

Box of matches…
Disposable BBQ (Large Size)
Large disposable propane gas canister

Place canister on BBQ, light, retire to a safe distance…

ANdy



Hey Bubba, hold my beer and watch this.




Anything that involves "lighting" a propane tank with a match is a little to risky for me
5/31/2006 1:58:04 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

The first time I did it I was a young teen, I did not stand back quite far enough…

Watch you been doing? You look sunburned…

Nothing mom…




You mean there were other times as well?
5/31/2006 2:03:20 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
DIY Fuel Air Bomb… don't try this in your back yard!

Materials required…

Box of matches…
Disposable BBQ (Large Size)
Large disposable propane gas canister

Place canister on BBQ, light, retire to a safe distance…

ANdy



Hey Bubba, hold my beer and watch this.




The first time I did it I was a young teen, I did not stand back quite far enough…

Watch you been doing? You look sunburned…

Nothing mom…

ANdy





5/31/2006 2:07:56 PM EDT
[#23]
Two things stand in the way of Bubba making an FAE.  Dispersal and timing.  While the BBQ/propane system of Vito's description would make an explosion of sorts, it lacks the effectiveness of an FAE of that mass of propane.

First, the physics of FAE.  Fuel, oxygen and an initiator.  What people forget is the volume of air necessary for most common fuels.  The problem is the fuel must be dispersed within the limits of flammability and most fuels have a narrow "window" of flammability.  Propane, natural gas, gasoline and the like are all similar, between 4 and 10% by volume is necessary for flammability.  Too much or too little and it will not ignite.

Then there is the nature of the combustion.  Think of it in terms of octane.  Fuels like propane and natural gas are high octane and as such, combustion is highly orderly and does not have a high dependence on pressure.  The result is the explosion is very low energy.

More exotic fuels like acetylene and ethylene are quite different.  These fuels have a very low octane rating and for acetylene, will detonate at ranges from 5-90%.  In fact, these fuels are quite dangerous because of their flammability limits.  But they are very effective.  
5/31/2006 2:32:24 PM EDT
[#24]
Propylene oxide is the ticket. Useful in top fuel dragsters, but the NHRA doesn't like it.
5/31/2006 2:40:20 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
Propylene oxide is the ticket. Useful in top fuel dragsters, but the NHRA doesn't like it.



That's the stuff, but a tad expensive and not avalable at a local hardware store for the for the enthusiastic teen firebug

ANdy
5/31/2006 3:18:51 PM EDT
[#26]
butyl-nitrate and alcohol (not sure which type at the moment) is what the Military likes to use in their FAE mixtures and yes I have seen the monkey high chair video. The Mil is now pretty much going with thermobaric weapons for underground bunkers and such wich is basicly micro pulverized insensitive high explosives, explosively aerosolized then detonated which to me is way cool.

BTW the Army's 35 pound FAE bomb is equivelent to 250lbs of TNT when it goes off correctly.
5/31/2006 3:23:19 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Couldn't that just be improvised with a tannerite charge in a 5 gal gas can with a flare 10 feet away?



Uhhhh I think that the explosive they use for FAE type bombs is a bit more potent than tannerite dude. There is a difference between all of the different types of explosives out there.



I think he's talking about using tannerite to atomize the fuel.  Problem is with any explosive, it will deplete the surrounding oxygen and might send the flare flying too.
5/31/2006 3:33:11 PM EDT
[#28]
KEWL!!!
5/31/2006 3:36:54 PM EDT
[#29]
Tag for a non retarted computer
5/31/2006 3:44:28 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
I still like the video I saw in EOD school with the FAE bomb and a bunch of monkeys in high chairs and bunkers.



I used to show that one to my students when I was teaching in the Air Force.  I usually had at least one female crying for those "cute little monkeys" before it was over, and more than a few folks that puked.  I have to admit that the high chair bit was a little over the top!  
5/31/2006 3:56:35 PM EDT
[#31]
You guys are talking about the BLU-82 15,000 bomb right??? They can fit two in a MC-130 Combat Talon. I love em. Damn I miss the AF well (AFSOC) I think I'll have another beer.....