Posted: 5/8/2006 8:52:33 PM EDT
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someone give me some ammunition here.... im in one of those retarded fucking online arguements that started with a "help kenya from starving and drout" threads... to which im sure you know my replies... ( f' kenya, they can help themselves etc etc ) the peoples comebacks are pretty weak when i reply about how great our country is compared to pretty much every other place in the world and on the immigration issues. someone educate me on this whole "Azatlan" deal the mexicans have going on so i can own this group of hippies real good... thanks |
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MEChA is an acronym for Moviemiento Estudiantil Chicano de AZTLAN (Chicano Student Movement). - AZTLAN refers to the U.S. southwestern states which MEChA claims were stolen from Mexico (disclaiming the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, $15 million paid, etc.), must be reconquered ("Reconquista") and reclaimed for Mexico. - MEChA was founded for the sole purpose of infiltrating our educational system and, by lies and propaganda, literally "brainwashing" students with anti-American sentiment, hate and violence with the ultimate goal of revolution and the overthrow of the U.S. government. - The first MEChA chapter was established in 1969 on the U.C. Santa Barbara campus as "El Plan de Aztlan". - MEChA is a growing and increasingly militant Chicano presence on university, high school and junior high school campuses. According to MIGUEL CARILLO, a Chula Vista HS teacher, there are MEChA chapters at over 90% of the high schools in San Diego and Los Angeles. this is just a bit that i found on one website, but i need more info |
well, not EXACTALLY the same, we did take the land by force.... but that would be like germany demanding france back- france was territory that germany lost in a war- and so was the southwest US to mexico |
Actually we bought a very tiny portion from Mexico (Gadsden Purchase) which we VASTLY overpiad for (well not including any gold that was mined from it  ) which basically reimbursed them for it.We paid $10 million for 29,640 square miles. for comparison the louisiana purchase was $15 million for 827,987 sq miles Alaska was bought for $7.2 million (600,000 sq miles) |
That was my point. When I googled it spelled as in the title of this thread it asked, "Did you mean Aztlan?" 
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AZTLAN 101: Aztlan is the very real and very rapidly growing radical militant/political movement calling for massive immigration to "reconquer" southwest US and establish a new nation of Aztlan for Chicanos inside our borders.
MEChA is a widespread "Chicano student movement" with chapters on HUNDREDS of college campuses (and even many High Schools too) that SUPPORT this radical racist movement to invade and overthrow American society and replace it with an "Aztlan" pro-Chicano culture and nation-within-a-nation:
In less than 20 years we will have a majority population of Hispanic immigrants in the the border states DEMANDING "liberation of 'la Raza'" - these militants are learning from the Palestinians and Kosovo HOW to carve out a new homeland within a soveriegn nation by force. Do not doubt this - we WILL have our own Chicano "intifada" in this country within 20 years - or else we will just surrender without any struggle at all. THIS is they want - a wholly independant nation of "Aztlan":  And they are getting very close to establishing it even without firing a single shot:  This map is from 6 years ago and does NOT count illegal aliens. FROM THEIR VERY OWN MOUTHS: "While I am saying this half serious and half joking, I think we are practicing la reconquista in California." ~ Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, Feb 2002. "I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important - a very important - part of this." ~ Ernesto Zedillo, Former President of Mexico, speaking in Chicago, July 23, 1997. "Mexico extends beyond its borders." ~ Vicente Fox, Current President of Mexico, speaking to a gathering in Milwaukee in July of 2001 "California is going to be a Hispanic State and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. They should go back to Europe." ~ Mario Obledo, President of the Californian Coalition of Hispanic Organisations, June 1998 "Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes... To the gringos in the audience, I have one final message to convey, 'Up yours, baby. You've had it, from now on.' " ~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas. "Remember 187 (proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non citizens) was the last gasp of white America in California." ~ Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party in front of 400 cheering Latinos at U.C. Riverside on January 14, 1995. "We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos...non-Latinos aren't watching, they aren't raising questions" ~ Fernando Guerra, professor, Loyola Marymount "Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. .. Through love of having children, we are going to take over." ~ Augustin Cebeda, of the 'Brown Berets', a militant Aztlan group at a violent rally in Los Angeles on July 4, 2000. "In an extraordinary political move, President Vicente Fox has announced the formation of a cabinet level agency to govern, protect and provide services to over 20 million Mexicans now living in Aztlan, a territory encompassing most of the southwest part of the USA. President Fox declared yesterday that he will personally lead the new agency he named "Consejo Nacional para las Comunidades Mexicanas en el Exterior" (National Council for Mexican Communities Abroad). The "Council" will consist of the president, most of the cabinet secretaries and a, as of yet unnamed, representative from Aztlan. This is a bold move that essentially extends the arm of the Mexican government into the territories it previously lost during the Mexican-American War of 1848." ~ Reported in "La Voz de Aztlan", August 7, 2002. "Fair housing agencies report a surge in discrimination by immigrant landlords from many nations who refuse to rent outside their ethnic group." ~ Reported in Los Angeles Times, Nov. 21 2001. "We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population... I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it.... We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him." ~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas. ATTACKS ON BORDER PATROL: * 2 Border agents shot near Nogales (July 1, 2005) "Two U.S. Border Patrol agents were shot with high-powered firearms... within 100 yards of the border... Agents have been shot at 23 times this fiscal year, compared with nine the year prior..." * Assaults on Border Patrol Agents Increasing (February 3, 2005) "Since Oct. 1, agents working in the Tucson sector have been assaulted 80 times. Nine of the incidents involved shootings...." * Border Patrol Agents Shot At (February 1, 2005) "Individuals on the Mexican side of the border shot at a pair of U.S. Border Patrol agents..." * Assaults On Border Agents increase (January 28, 2005) "Sixty-four Border Patrol agents have been assaulted in the past three months along a 260-mile stretch of the Arizona-Mexico border... ' * Border Blunders (May 31, 2002) "According to [US Representative Tom] Tancredo, in the last six years, at least 118 incursions have occurred across the U.S. border - 61 by Mexican military and 57 by Mexican law-enforcement personnel..." * Check here for more on how bad it is on the border: American Border Patrol - Features Update "THIS LAND WAS MEXICAN ONCE... AND WILL BE AGAIN" Monument erected in Baldwin Park California:   "Every Mexican president, up to and including Vicente Fox, thinks his citizens are simply navigating to land that is historically their entitlement." ~ David Timmins, former US Diplomat working in Mexico in the 1980s. Source. MORE LINKS REGARDING AZTLAN AND LA RECONQUISTA: * EL PLAN DE AZTLÁN * UO MEChA Homepage (they rotate the wallpaper picture on this on each reload - one is of Che Guevera) * Southwest shall secede from U.S., prof predicts * Aztlan and Amalgamation * "California is going to become a Hispanic state, and if anyone doesn't like it they should leave." * "We have got to eliminate the gringo" * Aztlaners' Near Riot * Fox Extends Mexican Government into Aztlan * The Scourge Of MEChA And this is just the tip of the iceberg. |
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And let's not forget... Texas was not bought from Mexico by the US. It was not won from Mexico by the US. Texas fought for it's OWN independence and WON it from Mexico, then decided to become part of the US. Seems like Mexico has been doubly ruled out from any claim to Texas by it's OWN inhabitants. The people who live here ON THIS LAND decided long ago, numerous times, that they do not wish to belong to Mexico. Come and Take It, el Bitcheros!!!! |