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5/4/2006 8:33:00 PM EDT
Anyone own one of these safes?  Sportsman's Warehouse has a small 6 rifle model for $99.  Im just looking for something to keep an amature thief from grabbing my guns and bug'n out.  I don't expect a lot for $99 bucks but it's too much money to throw away on complete junk.    

Thanks for any input.

5/4/2006 8:35:09 PM EDT
[#1]
A lot better than just keeping it in your closet.
5/4/2006 8:36:47 PM EDT
[#2]
When my collection was small and I still moved from apartment to apartment every two or three years the stack-ons came in handy. Now I use them for storage of my magazines and ammo. Be sure to bolt them to the wall studs and into the floor (if made of wood) with nice long lag bolts.
5/4/2006 8:37:16 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Anyone own one of these safes?  Sportsman's Warehouse has a small 6 rifle model for $99.  Im just looking for something to keep an amature thief from grabbing my guns and bug'n out.  I don't expect a lot for $99 bucks but it's too much money to throw away on complete junk.    

Thanks for any input.




It's technically not a safe but a security cabinet.

Still a LOT better than the locking filing cabinets Homak sells in Kmart. They will keep your average "drug addicted kid with a screw driver out" which is the majority of your burglars.

A guy on the FSN board had someone break in his house and really work on it and did NOT get in. They are probably the best bet until you get a real safe.
5/4/2006 8:37:55 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
When my collection was small and I still moved from apartment to apartment every two or three years the stack-ons came in handy. Now I use them for storage of my magazines and ammo. Be sure to bolt them to the wall studs and into the floor (if made of wood) with nice long lag bolts.



+1

I still have a couple in my office that I use for "kit out" lockers.
5/5/2006 6:56:34 AM EDT
[#5]
Sentry makes several  models that you could more accurately call a safe...it's a lot sturdier than those Stack Ons.  More money, but a lot more secure.  Wally World has them...I got one for $289, and a bigger a couple of years later for only $10 more.  

Here's the $299 one...as you can see, you can cram quite a lot of shit in there.  



5/5/2006 7:04:15 AM EDT
[#6]
I think for what you want the Stack on will be just fine.

IMHO, many of the so called safes in the sub-$1000 range aren't worth it. For the protection you are looking for I'd rather just save the cash and stay with the Stack-On.

If you want real protection you should at least be jumping up to something like the Amsec BF Series and if you're trying to keep a semi-knowledgable (or better) theif out...good luck. You'll want, at the absolute minimum, a UL TL-15 rated safe, which will probably start around $3000 new.
5/5/2006 7:07:51 AM EDT
[#7]
I have one that I keep in my office. I have the pistol cabinet on top. Would be hard for anyone to get to them and then to try and carry them off would require hours of work. They are not fireproof but better than my wood one and better than laying all of the house (ok so that still happens).
For the money you cant beat it. I got the rifle one for my b'day and the pistol one as aChristmas present one year.
Put a tap on light in them though..they are dark.

5/8/2006 6:46:42 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Sentry makes several  models that you could more accurately call a safe...it's a lot sturdier than those Stack Ons.  More money, but a lot more secure.  Wally World has them...I got one for $289, and a bigger a couple of years later for only $10 more.  

Here's the $299 one...as you can see, you can cram quite a lot of shit in there.  

img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/188491/fullsafe1.jpg




Which model is this? The 10 gun or the 14 gun one? That 14 gun one comes up as 389 on their website, seems like Wallyworld only has them in stock during hunting season (at least around me).
Anyone ever special ordered one/something thru wallyworld and picked it up at the store?
5/8/2006 7:35:46 PM EDT
[#9]
Make sure you at least drill some holes in it and bolt it to the floor and/or wall.
5/8/2006 7:49:48 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Make sure you at least drill some holes in it and bolt it to the floor and/or wall.



I lag bolted mine to the wall.....all this cabinet would really do is slow an amateur down.......He would have to take some time, and make some noise to pry it open, and it would definitely take some time to get it off the wall. Not to mention, it's pretty heavy with several guns, ammo , extra parts etc...in it....I just got mine to keep the kids from getting to my goodies....I lock up money in there too...Mine is also in such a place in my home, that the bad guy would have to come DEEP into my house to get it.
5/8/2006 8:21:14 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Sentry makes several  models that you could more accurately call a safe...it's a lot sturdier than those Stack Ons.  More money, but a lot more secure.  Wally World has them...I got one for $289, and a bigger a couple of years later for only $10 more.  

Here's the $299 one...as you can see, you can cram quite a lot of shit in there.  

img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/188491/fullsafe1.jpg




That one looks like a bargain for $299
5/8/2006 8:24:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Has anyone put their safe, say, in the living room as a piece of furniture?

I've come to the conclusion that a gun room isn't practical for me in this house, so I'm going with a safe. Trick is, I have nowhere to hide it, and I'm looking for alternatives to the garage (which is still option #1).

Any ideas?
5/8/2006 8:25:13 PM EDT
[#13]
tag-a-delic
5/8/2006 8:33:55 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Has anyone put their safe, say, in the living room as a piece of furniture?

I've come to the conclusion that a gun room isn't practical for me in this house, so I'm going with a safe. Trick is, I have nowhere to hide it, and I'm looking for alternatives to the garage (which is still option #1).

Any ideas?



What about the "in the basement disguised as a furnace idea"?  I read about an elaborate setup that sounded like a real winner somewhere on here...

--VT
5/8/2006 8:36:29 PM EDT
[#15]
I had two.  They did the job and I pased them down to new gun owners.  Better than putting them in the closet or under the bed.  Bolt it down though!
5/8/2006 8:39:18 PM EDT
[#16]
Cabelas used to sell a couch that had a safe (maybe it was a security cabinet?) in the base. Lift the cushions and there was the door.

5/9/2006 7:14:50 AM EDT
[#17]
I don't have one, but have looked them over fairly well in the past.  If you don't have a safe, this one is much better than nothing.  Hide it away somewhere and that's all the better.

The knowledge my guns are safely enclosed in an 800 pound chunk of steel makes me feel much better when I leave for vacation.
5/9/2006 7:44:33 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
What about the "in the basement disguised as a furnace idea"?  




If I had a basement, I'd do a safe room in a heartbeat. Sadly, I don't have one, so that option won't work.
5/9/2006 7:47:43 AM EDT
[#19]
There was a pic someone posted long ago of a Stack-On gun cabinet they found out in the CA desert...

It had been ripped open and was full of bullet holes.

Consensus was that it was stolen, and taken out there to be opened the old fashioned way.
5/9/2006 7:51:11 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
There was a pic someone posted long ago of a Stack-On gun cabinet they found out in the CA desert...

It had been ripped open and was full of bullet holes.

Consensus was that it was stolen, and taken out there to be opened the old fashioned way.



There was a cast Sentry up were we used to go shooting, The fireproof ones... someone took an angle grinder to the combo lock, then proceeded to cut around the inside of the door.

Flimsy or not they will take it if it isn't BOLTED DOWN!
5/9/2006 8:08:32 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
When my collection was small and I still moved from apartment to apartment every two or three years the stack-ons came in handy. Now I use them for storage of my magazines and ammo. Be sure to bolt them to the wall studs and into the floor (if made of wood) with nice long lag bolts.



YES.

I use one (8 gun) but it is FULL with 6 guns.
5/9/2006 8:21:50 AM EDT
[#22]
Weight is your best friend in a safe. A crow bar behind or under a safe can rip it from the concrete or the wall-studs. If the safe can be carried away by one man, it's almost useless.
5/9/2006 8:21:54 AM EDT
[#23]
Not a safe, a gun locker.


Better than a closet
5/9/2006 8:27:01 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Weight is your best friend in a safe. A crow bar behind or under a safe can rip it from the concrete or the wall-studs. If the safe can be carried away by one man, it's almost useless.



I suppose it depends on the bolts you use, but my safe has four bolts into the concrete rated at 4000 lbs of pressure each. I don't think anyone is prying it off the floor with a crow bar.
5/9/2006 8:38:25 AM EDT
[#25]
I got two for $70 something.  I got them to cover my _ss more than protect my guns.  Latter with kids running arround the house, I feel the kids are a bit more save with the guns in the cabinet than in a closet.

That said, my house was broken into and the stack-on was found fairly quickly.  The burgler focused his attention on the cabinet rather than look much elsewere - so the only thing stolen from the house proper were two cap and ball pistols on display.  He wasted so much time on the cabinet that eventually the dogs woke up and scared him away.  

At first I was not even 100% sure I was broken into.  But the proof was the crow bar marks on the door (before the idiot opened the unlocked window 10 inches away from the lock), and part of the thief's screwdriver broken off trying to pry the cabinet open.  The $70 dollar safe successfully protected about $5,000 of guns that night.  The safe was not bolted in, but darn heavy since I also all my reloading lead bullets in it (at the time probably over 125-150lbs of lead in addition to 150-200 lbs of guns).

I know I made it easy on the theif by leaving the window unlocked.  I figured the door would ultimately only slow a thief down a couple seconds, and leaving the window unlocked would save me several hundred in property damage.
5/9/2006 8:45:42 AM EDT
[#26]
One thought I had, if I ever needed to put a safe in a garage.  I would try to buy a broken refrigerator (cheep), gut it, and put the safe inside the shell.  At liest to a casual glance the safe would be hidden in something that is quite common in a garage.  If I had it elsewhere I would probably try to build it into a wardrobe/armoire.  It would not stop a thief, but would cut down the through the window advertising.
5/9/2006 6:15:47 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Sentry makes several  models that you could more accurately call a safe...it's a lot sturdier than those Stack Ons.  More money, but a lot more secure.  Wally World has them...I got one for $289, and a bigger a couple of years later for only $10 more.  

Here's the $299 one...as you can see, you can cram quite a lot of shit in there.  

img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/188491/fullsafe1.jpg




Which model is this? The 10 gun or the 14 gun one? That 14 gun one comes up as 389 on their website, seems like Wallyworld only has them in stock during hunting season (at least around me).
Anyone ever special ordered one/something thru wallyworld and picked it up at the store?



Apparently special orders from Walmart are not possible, at least according to the broken english speaking guy I spoke with on the phone from the local WW.  I hate spending more than a few hundred on one of these kinds of lightweight safes, when you can get a winchester safe from Sams Club for around 500. One of those would be lightyears better than a cheapo. Too bad I cant use one of those where I live.