Posted: 4/23/2006 1:28:48 PM EDT
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OK, so after watching Man on Fire (again), I was intrigued about his use of what appeared to be a warning shot just as the kidnapping was about to go down. Obviously the situation is not one many CCW holders would find themselves in: multiple BG's well armed and planned out, you paid to protect a little girl, they know you're the body guard, etc. But would you ever use a single shot straight up to warn the general populace to get out of the way? If so, under what circumstances? In this case, surpirse and concealment were a non-issue for him; they would have known that he was armed, so the first shot really didn't teach them anything they didn't already know, but it might have given a bystander a few precious seconds before lead was moving horizontally. Thoughts, opinions? |
Warning shots are a bad idea. In reference to the movie, he didn't shoot as a warning shot. He had trained her to start moving when she heard a gun shot. She froze up in panic and he shot to get her moving again. His intent was to protect the principle and get her out of the danger area. |
what is CFLCC?
Interesting. I realized it was to warn Pita, but not that it was in the context og "The gunshot holds no fear" <---Goes to watch scene again. |
It was a shot to for Pita. They were practicing her not flinching and taking off right away when she hears the starters pistol. They were practicing in the pool with him banging 2 bricks together. |
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I once worked under a ROE that required me to fire warning shots before using deadly force. I was to first yell "Halt" in English and then in the host nation's language, then fire one round approximately a meter in front of the BG, again yell "Halt" in both languages, then fire one more round over the head of the BG. If the BG still hadn't stopped I was then authorized to engage. Of course, everything was qualified with statements like "should time permit" and shit like that. The general understanding was to make sure you missed twice and to yell at some point. |
Right, I get that (FWIW, it took 2 shots in the movieto get her moving). so to apply the principle: do you fire one in the air so that other people (or your own kids who are nearby but out of reach) look up and take notice, maybe run for cover? Obviously no one here would ever miss a shot in a gunfight (  ) but BG's probably will.
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Did it matter if the misses were before or after the hits? 
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No doubt a good principle, but in the movie she was too far away for him to grab her and move, and there were multiple BG's on at least two sides. They seemed intent on taking him out before grabbing her. Edited for my bad typing. |
(30-[number of holes in BG]) >= 2 = Good shoot That make sense?
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You need to see that movie. Seriously. |
Yeah I thought about that. Not to make this a discussion about the physics of a projectile, but is that a great concern? I'm playing devil's advocate; I agree with what everyone is saying. |
I don't think I've evertyped this, but +1 to that |