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Posted: 4/4/2006 4:19:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2006 5:39:54 PM EDT by Fat_McNasty]
OH NOES!!1!!!

Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:21:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2006 4:21:50 PM EDT by DoubleFeed]
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:21:43 PM EDT
I dont get it
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:22:32 PM EDT
get a little too excited?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:22:47 PM EDT
Are you mucking up a garand?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:22:50 PM EDT
Nice. A mill.

what gun, and what are you doing to it?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:23:03 PM EDT
Pouring butterscotch over the workpiece? Nah.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:23:53 PM EDT
Is that Velveeta cheese?

CMOS
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:26:16 PM EDT
WTF did you do?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:27:42 PM EDT
tag for learning WTF is going on.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:28:11 PM EDT
De-earing a Enfield p17... Muhahahahahaahhah!
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:30:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
De-earing a Enfield p17... Muhahahahahaahhah!



And what are these 'ears' and what do they do?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 4:36:47 PM EDT
You need to change your coolant.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 5:38:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2006 5:39:23 PM EDT by Fat_McNasty]

Originally Posted By MagKnightX:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
De-earing a Enfield p17... Muhahahahahaahhah!



And what are these 'ears' and what do they do?



Rear sight and stripper slot...

Link Posted: 4/4/2006 5:40:52 PM EDT
You're a bad, bad boy!
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 5:44:43 PM EDT
Uh...WHY?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 5:47:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 5:50:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NonConformist:
Uh...WHY?



1. Because I like to make the baby Jesus cry!
2. That's what the customer wanted.. I personally like to round them off like a Rem 30. But he wanted it squared off with a shelf for the base.
3. I know there some on here that will blow a gasket when they see this..

HAAHAHAHAHAH!
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 5:50:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2006 5:52:08 PM EDT by ScaryBlackGuns]

Originally Posted By NonConformist:
Uh...WHY?



Duh, Sea Monkeys can only shoot a de-earred Enfield.

LINK
SBG
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 5:55:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2006 5:57:51 PM EDT by Ductapeman]
Ah-- I detect a late-1940s-style "sporterization." The ears are milled off to the radius of the receiver ring (not at all easy to do attractively) and scope bases or, traditionally, a Redfield Junior rail mount, would be brazed into place. I have a fer-reals 1940's sporterized M1917 that I inherited years ago, and it's a real honey-- Redfield Jr. rail and a Weaver K6 from the early '50s, issue barrel from Sept 1918-- it's really got some stuff. Well, treat her good, Fats, and do a good job. (Though one might have wished to see you take on the job with one which was less fortunate in the first attempt-- so be it. Just do a good job.)

Thinking about rechambereing to .300 WinMag while you're at it?

ETA: WOW-- five new posts in the time it took to write all that. I see now, it's a shop job. Very well-- carry on.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 5:55:50 PM EDT
damn you have a good camera, im using the universities super high powered-high speed internet and that pic took a few seconds to load!
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 6:03:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ductapeman:
Ah-- I detect a late-1940s-style "sporterization." The ears are milled off to the radius of the receiver ring (not at all easy to do attractively) and scope bases or, traditionally, a Redfield Junior rail mount, would be brazed into place. I have a fer-reals 1940's sporterized M1917 that I inherited years ago, and it's a real honey-- Redfield Jr. rail and a Weaver K6 from the early '50s, issue barrel from Sept 1918-- it's really got some stuff. Well, treat her good, Fats, and do a good job. (Though one might have wished to see you take on the job with one which was less fortunate in the first attempt-- so be it. Just do a good job.)

Thinking about rechambereing to .300 WinMag while you're at it?

ETA: WOW-- five new posts in the time it took to write all that. I see now, it's a shop job. Very well-- carry on.



It was a barreled action when it came in.. Not the full rifle in the pic (grabbed it off of gunbroker).. Already hacked upon by someone else. When finished its going to be a .416 Rem mag (per customer request).
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 6:07:19 PM EDT
Just curious how much does a job like this cost?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:09:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:
Just curious how much does a job like this cost?



Cutting off the ears? Or the whole enchilada? (chamber/ crown/ thread barrel,de-ear, open mag up, re do feed lips and ramp, install sights and scope bases and lastly blue or Cerakote it)
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:12:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:
Just curious how much does a job like this cost?



Cutting off the ears? Or the whole enchilada? (chamber/ crown/ thread barrel,de-ear, open mag up, re do feed lips and ramp, install sights and scope bases and lastly blue or Cerakote it)



The whole change to a monster sized caliber
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:16:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:16:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:
Just curious how much does a job like this cost?



Cutting off the ears? Or the whole enchilada? (chamber/ crown/ thread barrel,de-ear, open mag up, re do feed lips and ramp, install sights and scope bases and lastly blue or Cerakote it)



The whole change to a monster sized caliber



I know a crazy bastard who's making one into a 460 Weatherby Mag.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:16:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:
Just curious how much does a job like this cost?



Cutting off the ears? Or the whole enchilada? (chamber/ crown/ thread barrel,de-ear, open mag up, re do feed lips and ramp, install sights and scope bases and lastly blue or Cerakote it)



The whole change to a monster sized caliber

Me do the stock as well were talking turnkey, right? What caliber do you want? Irons or scope or both? Safari style or normal swivles?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:18:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
De-earing a Enfield p17... Muhahahahahaahhah!



Oh! That's like filling down the sear!
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:26:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:
Just curious how much does a job like this cost?



Cutting off the ears? Or the whole enchilada? (chamber/ crown/ thread barrel,de-ear, open mag up, re do feed lips and ramp, install sights and scope bases and lastly blue or Cerakote it)



The whole change to a monster sized caliber

Me do the stock as well were talking turnkey, right? What caliber do you want? Irons or scope or both? Safari style or normal swivles?



Well, I was thinking of having something done with either a Brit Enfield that was all sporter up or a Model 1917 that was sportered.

I don't really know what caliber just something BIG, like 460 Weatherby or maybe one of the Nito Express calibers.

Something with a heavy barrel and a brake, no sights.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:26:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:

The whole change to a monster sized caliber

Me do the stock as well were talking turnkey, right? What caliber do you want? Irons or scope or both? Safari style or normal swivles?



Do it like the Model 70 ya did for me. Sweet 416.

Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:32:32 PM EDT
I see no problem with it.

There's nothing wrong with taking a $500 piece of history and with judicious use of a mill and dremel transforming it into a garden variety $200 sporter that will never really appreciate.

Pissing on the historical implements of our veterans is great fun, isn't it?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:40:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By swingset:
I see no problem with it.

There's nothing wrong with taking a $500 piece of history and with judicious use of a mill and dremel transforming it into a garden variety $200 sporter that will never really appreciate.

Pissing on the historical implements of our veterans is great fun, isn't it?




Well, when you pick up a sporter in a pawn shop that has been Bubba-ed to an unrepairable extent it doesn't seem like such a horrible thing.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:43:30 PM EDT
You should never have let tubgirl in your shop
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:46:56 PM EDT
I just wanna know what the goop is!
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:48:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By swingset:
Pissing on the historical implements of our veterans is great fun, isn't it?



Oh my god! You better stay out of the Army surplus stores.

You'll have a freakin' heart attack.

What with all those historical implements being transformed into camping gear and all.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:49:59 PM EDT
Cut away! Bad person? I say it makes you a brave, foolhardy, or skilled person.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:54:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2006 9:55:17 PM EDT by swingset]

Originally Posted By Stealth:

Originally Posted By swingset:
Pissing on the historical implements of our veterans is great fun, isn't it?



Oh my god! You better stay out of the Army surplus stores.

You'll have a freakin' heart attack.

What with all those historical implements being transformed into camping gear and all.



Yeah, because a 1918 built rifle that served in two world wars, fought in the hands of our grandfathers is the same as a canteen of unknown origin or a cot.

right back atcha.

If you don't respect the history of a battle rifle, fine. It's your gun to molest. But, it's RETARDED economy, because an M1917 is worth more unfucked with than sportered, and by the time you lay out the cash to do a proper conversion, you could have bought a more accurate, cheaper modern bolt gun.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:57:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By swingset:


Yeah, because a 1918 built rifle that served in two world wars, fought in the hands of our grandfathers is the same as a canteen of unknown origin or a cot.

right back atcha.

If you don't respect the history of a battle rifle, fine. It's your gun to molest. But, it's RETARDED economy, because an M1917 is worth more unfucked with than sportered, and by the time you lay out the cash to do a proper conversion, you could have bought a more accurate, cheaper modern bolt gun.




Would it make you feel better if I told you that I rescued another 1917 that wasn't fucked to bad and that I am currently restoring it to it's original glory
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:58:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stealth:

Originally Posted By swingset:
Pissing on the historical implements of our veterans is great fun, isn't it?



Oh my god! You better stay out of the Army surplus stores.

You'll have a freakin' heart attack.

What with all those historical implements being transformed into camping gear and all.



I work an an Army surplus store...and i love it...except pay day...it seems i get my money, and then it goes right back into the store.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 10:03:30 PM EDT
If it's already at least partially screwed up improving it is not a bad thing. Those Enfield actions were pretty nice. HERESY ALERT It's even better than a Springfield action for building a heavy caliber on.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 10:04:20 PM EDT
If it's already at least partially screwed up improving it is not a bad thing. Those Enfield actions were pretty nice. HERESY ALERT It's even better than a Springfield action for building a heavy caliber on.

Although you can now get better actions for that. If you're doing it for a hobby, why not?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 10:07:00 PM EDT
If it's already at least partially screwed up improving it is not a bad thing. Those Enfield actions were pretty nice. HERESY ALERT It's even better than a Springfield action for building a heavy caliber on.

Although you can now get better actions for that. If you're doing it for a hobby, why not?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 10:07:45 PM EDT
If it's already at least partially screwed up improving it is not a bad thing. Those Enfield actions were pretty nice. HERESY ALERT It's even better than a Springfield action for building a heavy caliber on.

Although you can now get better actions for that. If you're doing it for a hobby, why not?

How about a milling in a Picatinny Rail and adding an EOTECh?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 10:08:15 PM EDT
If it's already at least partially screwed up improving it is not a bad thing. Those Enfield actions were pretty nice. HERESY ALERT It's even better than a Springfield action for building a heavy caliber on.

Although you can now get better actions for that. If you're doing it for a hobby, why not?

How about a milling in a Picatinny Rail and adding an EOTECh?
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 10:08:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2006 10:09:20 PM EDT by LArifleMAN]
OMG quintuple post
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 10:34:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ductapeman:
Ah-- I detect a late-1940s-style "sporterization." The ears are milled off to the radius of the receiver ring (not at all easy to do attractively) and scope bases or, traditionally, a Redfield Junior rail mount, would be brazed into place. I have a fer-reals 1940's sporterized M1917 that I inherited years ago, and it's a real honey-- Redfield Jr. rail and a Weaver K6 from the early '50s, issue barrel from Sept 1918-- it's really got some stuff.



I have that exact set up!..

also have some sort of comp on the front of it. but what a beauty.


I also have a un-buba'd 1917.
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 10:38:19 PM EDT


Does this make me a bad person?? Enfield...


Yes
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 12:24:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:

Originally Posted By swingset:


Yeah, because a 1918 built rifle that served in two world wars, fought in the hands of our grandfathers is the same as a canteen of unknown origin or a cot.

right back atcha.

If you don't respect the history of a battle rifle, fine. It's your gun to molest. But, it's RETARDED economy, because an M1917 is worth more unfucked with than sportered, and by the time you lay out the cash to do a proper conversion, you could have bought a more accurate, cheaper modern bolt gun.




Would it make you feel better if I told you that I rescued another 1917 that wasn't fucked to bad and that I am currently restoring it to it's original glory



Yes.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 12:34:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By MagKnightX:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
De-earing a Enfield p17... Muhahahahahaahhah!



And what are these 'ears' and what do they do?



Rear sight and stripper slot...

www.gunsamerica.com/upload/976554404-1.jpg



Ah HAH. Now I get it. So, No it does not make you a bad person, Unless of course its not your weapon, then your screwed.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 1:03:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By swingset:
It's your gun to molest. But, it's RETARDED economy, because an M1917 is worth more unfucked with than sportered, and by the time you lay out the cash to do a proper conversion, you could have bought a more accurate, cheaper modern bolt gun.



Oh yea, agreed! The price of new Mauser actions are very affordable these days. There's Charles Daley and CZ both putting out decent stuff. Personally I'd never tweak an old battle rifle, but if given a stripped action I'd have no problem with it. Otherwise there's no way to justify the cost.

There are so many sporterized, tweaked, and otherwise modified Enfields out there as it is, I'm sure if a sporterized custom Enfield is what someone wants, there'd be no problem finding something that you couldn't hurt by modifying it further. One of those garden variety $200 jobs will do nicely. It's just "not my bag".

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