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Posted: 4/2/2006 12:40:28 PM EDT
Here's something I haven't seen discussed much:

The reason the Mexican government wants illegal immigration into the U.S is simple. TO KEEP POWER.

Obviously lots of people aren't very happy living in Mexico...hence the illegal immigration into our country. But, who is really coming here? The rich Mexicans? The Mexican upperclass?

Of course not.

It is the Mexican underclass that has traditionally been supressed and held down by the Mexican upperclass.

Now, consider this....

If our border were secured...and if all the Mexican underclass was forced to stay in Mexico, what do you think would happen? You got it....

Revolution.

A similiar situation happens in the Middle-East...to keep its people from rising up against them, the rulers in these countries keep the people focused on the evils of the West as an outlet....otherwise, again, the people would start focusing on the real cause of most of their problems...their leadership...and would enact a change.

So, help secure the borders and help the suppressed Mexican people enact their long overdo revolt..

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!!!!

Discuss amongst yourselves.
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 12:43:03 PM EDT
Problem is, Bush is the Mexican elite's best friend. He cant suck their dicks hard enough.
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 12:47:54 PM EDT
THe United States really is, in large part, Mexico's safety valve.



-K
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 12:50:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Special-K:
THe United States really is, in large part, Mexico's safety valve.



-K



Or their garbage can...

or toilet...


Link Posted: 4/2/2006 12:50:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/2/2006 12:53:55 PM EDT by bfieldburt]
FROM ANOTHER THREAD:


Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman:

Originally Posted By rogue007:

I wish Mexico didn't exist...



............... What about all those beautiful mexican women..........

www.sito.org/id/ick/LatinaInPurple.jpg



Mexan women are either drop dead gorgous or gargoils, unfortunately most of the hot ones seemed to stay in Mexico.


See, they even keep the cute chicks....damn them....damn them to hell!!!!!
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ADD: the Mexican rulers....not the hot women...of course. Again...VIVA LA REVOLUTION...
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 12:54:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:
Problem is, Bush is the Mexican elite's best friend. He cant suck their dicks hard enough.



That won't stop him from trying!
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 12:56:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 12:57:42 PM EDT
Send all the illegals back to Mexico. Arm Every Male over the age of 14 with an AK47 and 500 rds of ammo. Issue a manual on Guerrilla Warfare.

In addition to every man being armed with an AK47

Arm every 3rd man with RPGs and Manual
Arm every 6th man with Demo charges and Manual
Arm every 9th man with belt fed Machine Gun



Of course this would only work if we could be sure they would not be used against US
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 1:05:14 PM EDT
Until the hardship overcomes the economic benefit to make it here, nothing will stop the illegal immigration.

There is just too much money involved - more money than the illegals can make in their native land, lots of money saved by businesses (who we know NEVER hire illegals), and money and power to those in charge in Mexico (who, by using the aforementioned "safety valve" don't have to contend with starvation, riots, and other things that are bad for politicians).
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 4:38:58 PM EDT
Ship 'em back. God created buses for a reason. I'd be glad to help foot the bill to send 12mil gringos back to the motherland. Actually, just send back the ones that don't speak english. Why would you come to the USA and expect us to speak your language? Please if you're going to illegally immigrate, SPEAK THE LANGUAGE
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 8:42:12 PM EDT
For the reason stated above [see first post in this thread], no amount of "cooperation" with Mexican officials is going to help.

Bush goes down to Mexico to have a meeting with their president about the issue .

Again, for the reason stated above....

BIG WASTE OF TIME.
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 8:45:23 PM EDT
yes if we shout down the money train going back there would be a revolt , but i can almost guarantee it will be socialist/communist
Link Posted: 4/2/2006 8:49:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yes if we shout down the money train going back there would be a revolt , but i can almost guarantee it will be socialist/communist



Okay, probably. And admittedly that isn't good but what's the alternative?

A slow creeping socialist/communist revolt in our country?

Again...secure the borders.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 10:55:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

As former Mexican Foreign Minister Jorge G. Castaneda has admitted, the mostly unfenced border allows Mexico’s largely white ruling class to bleed off the discontented poor rather than make the fundamental reforms necessary to fix that dysfunctional country.

Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:09:04 AM EDT
bfieldburt: So true. About 20% of the people controll about 80% of the wealth. In Mexico, when you're born poor, you will die poor. There is virtually zero upward economic movement. This is why Mexico is still a 3rd world $hithole, no matter if they got more cell phones than the USA etc. Their controlling politicos are firmly in control and are not willing to give up any political power or wealth. Why do you think guns are so tightly controlled, the Federales are concerned about an uprising.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:14:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By warlord:
bfieldburt: So true. About 20% of the people controll about 80% of the wealth. In Mexico, when you're born poor, you will die poor. There is virtually zero upward economic movement. This is why Mexico is still a 3rd world $hithole, no matter if they got more cell phones than the USA etc. Their controlling politicos are firmly in control and are not willing to give up any political power or wealth. Why do you think guns are so tightly controlled, the Federales are concerned about an uprising.



Unfortunatly they bring their political traditiond with them when they invade our counrty. Wanna see what corruption in the demoncraps party will be like when the mexicans allow it?
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:20:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By warlord:
bfieldburt: So true. About 20% of the people controll about 80% of the wealth. In Mexico, when you're born poor, you will die poor. There is virtually zero upward economic movement. This is why Mexico is still a 3rd world $hithole, no matter if they got more cell phones than the USA etc. Their controlling politicos are firmly in control and are not willing to give up any political power or wealth. Why do you think guns are so tightly controlled, the Federales are concerned about an uprising.



Only reason they have more cell phones than the US is that the infrastructure for cell phones is much easier to set up and maintain-compare towers every few square miles vs. laying thousands of miles of land lines...
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:24:32 AM EDT
Read up on Frank Camper.

Its against US Law to Conspire or train for overthrowing a Foreign Govt.

That is unless your part of an appoved operation.

That might be why you dont see much of anyone talking about overthrowing the Mex gov on the intarweb!
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:28:34 AM EDT
No need to discuss that Mexican politics are a pressure cooker, and we are the safty valve. It is simply a matter of fact. When I am in the mood to defend Bush (which is less and less frequent), I simply point out that being invaded might be the preferable option to having your neibor in a shooting revolution.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:32:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2006 11:36:44 AM EDT by cluster]
one reason it wont work is most mexicans dont own weapons ..

and this is a common sight .. this was yesterday about noon in Laredo Mex




edit :

resized it ..




Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:34:44 AM EDT
There was recently an armed uprising in Mexico- in Chiapas the Indians revolted and were largely given what they wanted (ostly because they had a valid bitch).

As far as the upper class keeping everyone down- the poor largely stay poor due to their own efforts- if you are a laborer in mexico, there is a large number of folks willing to work for cheap.... reality is you are highly unlikely to get wealthy being a laborer. Better educated folks get better jobs and make more money. This is what we call survival of the fittest, and, in reality, is society as it should be (although, of course, there are many problems in mexico with corruption etc...)

The gov't in mexico doesn't hold everyone's dick and hand out massive welfare doles or free medicare like in the US (or Canada)- it also doesn't charge massive income or sales taxes. It really is survival of the fittest in Mexico- something that many of you espouse as being the way it should be in the US -"don't work, don't eat". You really couldn't imagine what it would really be like.......... You need to realize that illegal immigration is a result of the socialist paradise you folks have created and are continually improving on in the US- why wouldn't you go somewhere were you could get free school/healthcare , and make more (often tax free) money that you do in your own homeland?

That said, quit whining about what other countries do/don't do and take action in your own country. Vote out those politicos that aren't doing what they should be doing....build a wall, whatever...
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 12:00:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2006 12:04:09 PM EDT by Possible_Spam]

Originally Posted By bfieldburt:

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

As former Mexican Foreign Minister Jorge G. Castaneda has admitted, the mostly unfenced border allows Mexico’s largely white ruling class to bleed off the discontented poor rather than make the fundamental reforms necessary to fix that dysfunctional country.




There are two options.

1. Close the border = A slow creeping socialist/communist revolt in Mexico.

2. Open the border = A slow creeping socialist/communist revolt in USA.

Same underclass. Just depends on where they are located.

I just spoke to my friend in the AZ Border Patrol. The Mexicans are flooding across the border the past few weeks much higher than normal. He says they are making more arrests over last year, with fewer officers. WTF?!

I asked him where are the illeals going.. he said "To the protests."

Lovely...
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 12:12:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HeVGunner:
You need to realize that illegal immigration is a result of the socialist paradise you folks have created and are continually improving on in the US- why wouldn't you go somewhere were you could get free school/healthcare , and make more (often tax free) money that you do in your own homeland?



Exactly. The problem isnt Mexico, it is the socialism we are fostering in our own nation.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 8:20:27 PM EDT
If we closed the border Mexico would be halfway to a revolution.

Turn the CIA loose on the Mexican elites and it wouild happen.

It would be better than seeing the American Southwest turn into Atzlan.

We might even get a better neighbor in the deal.


Steve
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 8:24:35 PM EDT
They want immigration because of the $$ they send back, not to stay in power.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 8:25:00 PM EDT
Fox has the place by the balls.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 8:30:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 8:34:28 PM EDT
You really wouldn't want a Marxist revolution to succeed next door.

Also, a good point was made about Mexico being a work or starve country. We HAVE created a socialist paradise. You'd have to be a little nuts not to try to emigrate from a third world shithole to the US, Canada, or Europe. I sure as shit would if I couldn't manage to make the jump from exploitee to exploiter lol. Doesn't make it right, but you have to consider it objectively.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 8:47:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Partisan:

Originally Posted By warlord:
bfieldburt: So true. About 20% of the people controll about 80% of the wealth. In Mexico, when you're born poor, you will die poor. There is virtually zero upward economic movement. This is why Mexico is still a 3rd world $hithole, no matter if they got more cell phones than the USA etc. Their controlling politicos are firmly in control and are not willing to give up any political power or wealth. Why do you think guns are so tightly controlled, the Federales are concerned about an uprising.



Unfortunatly they bring their political traditiond with them when they invade our counrty. Wanna see what corruption in the demoncraps party will be like when the mexicans allow it?


I hear what you mean. These people that come to the USA, only want one thing, earn money. These people are dirt-poor and have zero education, and therefore are suspectible to lies and distortions that the Dems want to feed to them.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 8:47:56 PM EDT
Holy shit! I just saw someone blame the US for the illegals coming here!

MAYBE THEY WOULDNT COME HERE IF THE COUNTRY WASNT SO GOOD, YOU RACIST BASTARDS!

Thats right, we need to start a civil war here. That way, with all the destruction, the country will look so nasty to other countries that they might actually stop invading. Its like reverse psychology, you know? If you want an omelette, you have to break some eggs.

My god some things are just too stupid.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:11:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:23:37 PM EDT
The greatest threat to American Freedom is the ruling class in Mexico.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:34:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bfieldburt:
FROM ANOTHER THREAD:


Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman:

Originally Posted By rogue007:

I wish Mexico didn't exist...



............... What about all those beautiful mexican women..........

www.sito.org/id/ick/LatinaInPurple.jpg



Mexan women are either drop dead gorgous or gargoils, unfortunately most of the hot ones seemed to stay in Mexico.


See, they even keep the cute chicks....damn them....damn them to hell!!!!!
-----------------

ADD: the Mexican rulers....not the hot women...of course. Again...VIVA LA REVOLUTION...




They don't KEEP the cute chicks, the cute chicks just stay because they are members of the elite.

See, the Mexicans are ruled by racists, the more European blood (Mostly Spanish and some German) you have in you, the better off you are, and the more attractive the women are.

Why do you think most of the Mexican women we get here look like they would look natural carrying a basket of yams on their head through a jungle? because those that we get here are mostly of south American Indian blood, and their grandmothers were carrying a basket of yams through the jungle.

These people are of the same Indian blood as those that have been getting massacred in southern Mexico for a long time. Why, because the ruling class/elites in Mexico are a bunch of fucking racists.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:54:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:
Problem is, Bush is the Mexican elite's best friend. He cant suck their dicks hard enough.



I surprised he has room in his mouth for both Saudi and Mexican dick.
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