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No amount of money will erase the dishonor she brought upon her family.

Quoted: Quoted: Naked women in Playboy is bad but if they're in National Geographic it's just fine?  I love hypocrites. Brian You do understand that the PURPOSE of Playboy is to sell magazines of sexy young women in provocative poses for men to masturbate to, and the PURPOSE of National Geographic is to show pictures of exotic locales and cultures that might occasionally happen to show a picture of some ugly old hags sagging boobs, right? How is that hypocracy? Medical journals may also occasionally show nude bodies.  Is that just like Playboy too?

It must be, because I've beat off to them too. and Victoria's Secret, Sears Catologue, the Sunday circular.  You know, the usual.

Quoted: No amount of money will erase the dishonor she brought upon her family.

You hit the nail on the head.  Unfortunately, there are very few people who care about honor any more.

Quoted: Quoted: No amount of money will erase the dishonor she brought upon her family. You hit the nail on the head.  Unfortunately, there are very few people who care about honor any more.

She cares about honor - but only $25,000 worth.  

I am sure I will not impress the "I'd hit it" crowd.

But do the rest of you really think that this will bring this young lady happiness?

For every "success" that my friend Bama-Shooter points to, I can point to many, many drug addicts, prostitutes, and failures that "got their start" as a model for porn.

Sounds like she was raised better.  But the fault is her's.

Quoted: Quoted: I'm sure her parents are real proud.  If I were her father, I might not ever speak to her again, nor let her in the house. She might as well have killed herself.  Or them. Are you serious???  I suppose she is going to burn in hell for posing nude too, right?  And if you were her father and you considered what she did as being so wrong that she should commit suicide then like the man said, maybe you should ask yourself where you went wrong.  I can't believe that you equate posing in Playboy to suicide or the murder of your parents...  wow...

To answer your question, no.  I was being a bit over-dramatic, but only to illustrate a point which is difficult to express in words (particularly in terms that the amoral twenty-something denizens of GD would understand, but I digress).  Her actions were destructive.  It is in that sense that she might as well have killed her parents.  Or herself.

It might just be a "parent" thing.  Or perhaps the Remnant is smaller than I thought, and few people would understand...

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PLEASE!

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No amount of money will erase the dishonor she brought upon her family. You hit the nail on the head.  Unfortunately, there are very few people who care about honor any more. She cares about honor - but only $25,000 worth.

Here's to "Honor".

If ya get on her stay on her
If ya can't stay on her, stay in her
And if ya can't come in her
Come ON HER!

That's honor folks!

Brought to you by "Pyro" and the Last Chance Saloon just outside the gate at Kadena AFB, Okinawa!

Quoted: If I were her father, I would be wondering where I had failed...

Amen.

I see where they are coming from.
If I ever had a daughter, and she posed in playboy, I would not be a happy father.
Without even getting into the morality aspects, it reminds me of the Geore Kastanza "out there" speech to his mother.

"I'm a divorcee, I'm out there now George"
"You can't be out there, I'm out here! If I see you out here, well then, forget it!"

Get my point?
You open up a skin mag to release some pressure and....you see your daughter.
I can't imagine anything more traumatizing.

Not surprising.  The girl is all about herself.  Me, me, me, & me.  Too much attention just isn't enough for some.

Quoted: You open up a skin mag to release some pressure and....you see your daughter. I can't imagine anything more traumatizing.

Well maybe NOT reading the magazine in the first place....would have sent the proper message in the first place. If you wouldn't want to see your daughter in Playboy...then don't "read them" in the first place.


They are all "someones" daughters


by the way I'm not directing that at you thedoctors308 personally.

Quoted: Quoted: You open up a skin mag to release some pressure and....you see your daughter. I can't imagine anything more traumatizing. Well maybe NOT reading the magazine in the first place....would have sent the proper message in the first place. If you wouldn't want to see your daughter in Playboy...then don't "read them" in the first place. They are all "someones" daughters by the way I'm not directing that at you thedoctors308 personally.

Touche.
I don't buy an porno mags, but a very good point nonetheless.

Let's put it this way - where I work, a lot of guys hang "pin ups" in their lockers.
Imagine going into the locker room and seeing your daughter hanging in some guys locker.

$25,000?  For Playboy?  That's it?

That's pretty pathetic.

Quoted: Although I haven't even seen a Playboy since I was 13 or so, I'd have to support this chick for posing. She isn't going to college and the magazine throws 6 digits at her.... that would be a no brainer. Hell, I'm IN college and I'd show my nasty, pudgy ass for 6 3 digits.   We can all jump up on our high horses but most of us don't know how to ride em.  She isn't a prostitute and she isn't doing some crazy fetish crap.  Poor girl got some pics taken and can afford to do a variety of things: Go to college Open a small business Get a house -  BG

Here is what she can't do, get the good name of her family back. As Mr. Franklin would say, she paid too much for the whistle.

Edit to see someone has already made this point.

Well, if I were her father, I would buy up as many copies as I could...................................
........and start handing them out to everybody I knew!

Quoted: Here is what she can't do, get the good name of her family back. As Mr. Franklin would say, she paid too much for the whistle.

Just a note to congratulate Belloc for knowing the story of the whistle.

Quoted: Quoted: Here is what she can't do, get the good name of her family back. As Mr. Franklin would say, she paid too much for the whistle. Just a note to congratulate Belloc for knowing the story of the whistle.

Outstanding, indeed!

"In short, I conceive that great part of the miseries of mankind are brought upon them by the false estimates they have made of the value of things, and by their giving too much for their whistles."

Quoted: I am sure I will not impress the "I'd hit it" crowd. But do the rest of you really think that this will bring this young lady happiness? For every "success" that my friend Bama-Shooter points to, I can point to many, many drug addicts, prostitutes, and failures that "got their start" as a model for porn. Sounds like she was raised better.  But the fault is her's.

And her's alone.

It's Playboy. It's not like she's taking it behind the Denny's for yay and ice.

What's wrong with a simple skin mag?

Oh, and she sure ain't anything special. I see better than her every day (although I don't see quite as MUCH of the better-looking people).

From the looks of her dialogue within that interview...she isn't going anywhere anyway (ya know, like, she's no brain surgeon)

I checked out her pictures...attractive yes, the best ever (or even top 1,000) in Playboy- not by a long shot.


10 bucks says she's in hardcore porn within 2 years (and that's being nice).

Quoted: Quoted: Although I haven't even seen a Playboy since I was 13 or so, I'd have to support this chick for posing. She isn't going to college and the magazine throws 6 digits at her.... that would be a no brainer. Hell, I'm IN college and I'd show my nasty, pudgy ass for 6 3 digits.   We can all jump up on our high horses but most of us don't know how to ride em.  She isn't a prostitute and she isn't doing some crazy fetish crap.  Poor girl got some pics taken and can afford to do a variety of things: Go to college Open a small business Get a house -  BG Here is what she can't do, get the good name of her family back. As Mr. Franklin would say, she paid too much for the whistle. Edit to see someone has already made this point.

who cares about the surname, all she has to do is get married and she gets a new one!  and if she ruins that one, she can just divorce and get married to a new guy! and if she ruins THAT one....

Quoted: From the looks of her dialogue within that interview...she isn't going anywhere anyway (ya know, like, she's no brain surgeon) I checked out her pictures...attractive yes, the best ever (or even top 1,000) in Playboy- not by a long shot. 10 bucks says she's in hardcore porn within 2 years (and that's being nice).

Not hard core videos, I would guess hardcore internet porn

"The part that bothered me was the fact that everybody else was going to see it, as far as my family and close friends and people I used to go to church with," she said
Sounds like her parents are more concerned with what their friends will think of them than about their actual daughter.  Typical of a lot of southern baptists.

Quoted: I'm sure her parents are real proud.  If I were her father, I might not ever speak to her again, nor let her in the house. She might as well have killed herself.  Or them.

wow! talk about an over-reaction

shes married

Quoted: From the looks of her dialogue within that interview...she isn't going anywhere anyway (ya know, like, she's no brain surgeon) I checked out her pictures...attractive yes, the best ever (or even top 1,000) in Playboy- not by a long shot. 10 bucks says she's in hardcore porn within 2 years (and that's being nice).

I'm really looking forward to working with her in the adult film business.  I think she's got what it takes to be a star.

Peter North

Quoted: Quoted: From the looks of her dialogue within that interview...she isn't going anywhere anyway (ya know, like, she's no brain surgeon) I checked out her pictures...attractive yes, the best ever (or even top 1,000) in Playboy- not by a long shot. 10 bucks says she's in hardcore porn within 2 years (and that's being nice). Not hard core videos, I would guess hardcore internet porn

not good enough for DVD's?  

WOW, I was afraid I'd get the flamejob for mentioning that while not ugly, she isn't the most attractive woman I've seen.

MUCH prettier girls can be seen at the campus I used to work on

Quoted: This her...? www.modelingpage.com/models/2941/sloss9.jpg www.ModelingPage.com/models/2941/49570_m_45329FD9-2B3D-897A-2E59089BF3827D92[1].jpg www.modelingpage.com/models/2941/chrisWhite1.jpg Just lose the middle name when you search...

Better pics than the PB ones...

Quoted: Quoted: Naked women in Playboy is bad but if they're in National Geographic it's just fine?  I love hypocrites. Brian You do understand that the PURPOSE of Playboy is to sell magazines of sexy young women in provocative poses for men to masturbate to, and the PURPOSE of National Geographic is to show pictures of exotic locales and cultures that might occasionally happen to show a picture of some ugly old hags sagging boobs, right? How is that hypocracy? Medical journals may also occasionally show nude bodies.  Is that just like Playboy too?

I hate to break it to you but it ain't just men reading Playboy.....  I must be special because I can read a Playboy in public without pulling out my schlong and rubbin' one out.

I guess we need to cover up or destroy all the Greek statues or Renaissance art showing naked bodies as well.

It's hypocrisy when somebody says you can't show a naked body in a magazine because it's porn but that same person doesn't bat an eye at another cultures norms of women being topless.  Hell, IMO it's pure jealousy from the ugly people of the world


Brian

Quoted: Beat me to it.  "Hipocrate"; another loaded term used by those who can't make a good argument for their position.

And you are capable of making a good arguement?  Based on this reply -

Quoted: I'm sure her parents are real proud.  If I were her father, I might not ever speak to her again, nor let her in the house. She might as well have killed herself. Or them.

I think not.

Brian

Quoted: there are pics all over the net. Google her.

One pic of three cars is all I got after Googling her.

Quoted: Quoted: there are pics all over the net. Google her. One pic of three cars is all I got after Googling her.

Drop the middle name and re-google.

Your web-fu is weak.

My next door neighbor while I was in high school was Miss February 2001 (Lauren Hill).  She was always doing modeling while growing up, so I wasn't suprised when she did the Playboy bit.  She was also in Fear Factor I believe.

Those soft and fuzzy sweaters
Too magical to touch
Too see her in that negligee
Is really just too much

Being a Florida boy growing up in G'ville - I know that we have some good looking women in this state.

-but-

I did a job in Sylacaga AL (bad spelling)

Dang - they had more good looking women there, than any place that I have ever been.  I thought that my head was going to come off of its base - I felt like an owl trying to turn my head all the way around.

Later,

Badredfish

Playboy?

BFD

And to think I let my subscription lapse last month.

Quoted: $25,000?  For Playboy?  That's it? That's pretty pathetic.

Honor comes pretty cheap nowadays.

Quoted: Quoted: From the looks of her dialogue within that interview...she isn't going anywhere anyway (ya know, like, she's no brain surgeon) I checked out her pictures...attractive yes, the best ever (or even top 1,000) in Playboy- not by a long shot. 10 bucks says she's in hardcore porn within 2 years (and that's being nice). Not hard core videos, I would guess hardcore internet porn

What about going to one of those porn-sponsored frat parties..........

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I think we need pics to make a really informed decision.....[/quote

+1


Until then.......Its her body,  let her do what she wants.  On my graduation day I was doin the same thing.  If I was her(), I would tell everyone what high school I was from just to piss off her teachers

Quoted: Quoted: From the looks of her dialogue within that interview...she isn't going anywhere anyway (ya know, like, she's no brain surgeon) I checked out her pictures...attractive yes, the best ever (or even top 1,000) in Playboy- not by a long shot. 10 bucks says she's in hardcore porn within 2 years (and that's being nice). I'm really looking forward to working with her in the adult film business.  I think she's got what it takes to be a star. Peter North

Oh yeah, he's gonna be drowning that girl.

Quoted: Quoted: Here is what she can't do, get the good name of her family back. As Mr. Franklin would say, she paid too much for the whistle. Just a note to congratulate Belloc for knowing the story of the whistle.

THE WHISTLE
by Benjamin Franklin, 1779

I AM charmed with your description of Paradise, and with your plan of living there; and I approve much of your conclusion, that, in the mean time, we should draw all the good we can from this world. In my opinion, we might all draw more good from it than we do, and suffer less evil, if we would take care not to give too much for whistles. For to me it seems that most of the unhappy people we meet with are become so by neglect of that caution.

You ask what I mean? You love stories, and will excuse my telling one of myself.

When I was a child of seven years old, my friends, on a holiday, filled my pocket with coppers. I went directly to a shop where they sold toys for children, and being charmed with the sound of a whistle, that I met by the way in the hands of another boy, I voluntarily offered and gave all my money for one. I then came home, and went whistling all over the house, much pleased with my whistle, but disturbing all the family. My, brothers, and sisters, and cousins, understanding the bargain I had made, told me I had given four times as much for it as it was worth; put me in mind what good things I might have bought with the rest of the money; and laughed at me so much for my folly, that I cried with vexation; and the reflection gave me more chagrin than the whistle gave me pleasure.

This, however, was afterward of use to me, the impression continuing on my mind; so that often, when I was tempted to buy some unnecessary thing, I said to myself, Don't give too much for the whistle; and I saved my money.

As I grew up, came into the world, and observed the actions of men, I thought I met with many, very many, who gave too much for the whistle.

When I saw one too ambitious of court favor, sacrificing his time in attendance on levees, his repose, his liberty, his virtue, and perhaps his friends, to attain it, I have said to myself, This man gives too much for his whistle.

When I saw another fond of popularity, constantly employing himself in political bustles, neglecting his own affairs, and ruining them by that neglect, He pays indeed, said I, too much for his whistle.

If I knew a miser, who gave up every, kind of comfortable living, all the pleasure of doing good to others, all the esteem of his fellow-citizens, and the joys of benevolent friendship, for the sake of accumulating wealth, Poor man, said I, you pay too much for your whistle.

When I met with a man of pleasure, sacrificing every laudable improvement of the mind, or of his fortune, to mere corporeal sensations, and ruining his health in their pursuit, Mistaken man, said I, you are providing pain for yourself, instead of pleasure; you give too much for your whistle.

If I see one fond of appearance, or fine clothes, fine houses, fine furniture, fine equipages, all above his fortune, for which he contracts debts, and ends his career in a prison, Alas! say I, he has paid dear, very dear, for his whistle.

When I see a beautiful, sweet-tempered girl married to an ill- natured brute of a husband, What a pity, say I, that she should pay so much for a whistle.

In short, I conceive that great part of the miseries of mankind are brought upon them by the false estimates they have made of the value of things, and by their giving too much for their whistles.

Yet I ought to have charity for these unhappy people, when I consider that, with all this wisdom of which I am boasting, there are certain things in the world so tempting, for example, the apples of King John, which happily are not to be bought; for if they were put to sale by auction, I might very easily be led to ruin myself in the purchase, and find that I had once more given too much for the whistle.

I still think it's a shame what they said about her in the article.

Working at the Sonic or Playboy, and the possible opportunities each might hold? Hmmmm.

ETA: Where's Playmore?

Quoted: Quoted: I'm sure her parents are real proud.  If I were her father, I might not ever speak to her again, nor let her in the house. She might as well have killed herself.  Or them. Interesting.  If I were her father, I would be wondering where I had failed...

I wonder if her father really does care... or maybe that is the cause of the problem?