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Posted: 3/27/2006 7:47:38 PM EDT
One of the regular customers and my work came in to day and we were talking guns as uusual. He tried to tell me that he has an m1a in .223. I didnt believe him and he tried to bet me $1000, when I refused he told me that if he was wrong he would buy me one of the rifles at his leo cost of $5,700 and if I was worng all I had to do was pay him $1000. After that he told me that the gun was half springfield and half ruger, that springfield made the top half and ruger made the bottom half. Oh...and he has 6 135 round barrel magazines that he keeps loaded at all times. Is there any truth to this?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 7:56:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 7:57:12 PM EDT by jbombelli]
I've been around guns my whole life and have never heard of such a thing. What he *probably* has is a mini-14, and somebody told him it has the same rotating-bolt design as the M1A, or works the same way, or something like that.


That said, I wish they would make an M1A in .300 WSM. I would buy it tomorrow.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 7:59:31 PM EDT
They make a garand in .338 win and .458 win mag. I think I need one of those but dont want to pony up the cash.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:07:09 PM EDT
No they don't.......they let Ruger make that mistake

WIZZO
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:08:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jbombelli:
I've been around guns my whole life and have never heard of such a thing. What he *probably* has is a mini-14, and somebody told him it has the same rotating-bolt design as the M1A, or works the same way, or something like that
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I remember that fiasco. Ruger tried to bring out M14-type rifle, XM something or rather, chambered in 308Win. Ruger finally cancelled the project because of problems with accuracy, it was rumored that it shot groups of 5"-6" at 100yds.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:09:28 PM EDT
Big Ron is a fucking jackass nomatter what you say. And he didn't buy his HK for $50 bucks
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:17:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:21:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Blue84S10:
Big Ron is a fucking jackass nomatter what you say. And he didn't buy his HK for $50 bucks



WTF?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:28:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By Blue84S10:
Big Ron is a fucking jackass nomatter what you say. And he didn't buy his HK for $50 bucks



WTF?



I work with Lambchops and the customer calls himself "Big Ron". The guy is a babbling idiot that claims he's DEA or FBI or some shit like that. One day he started running his mouth about how he was the first one to own this particular model HK pistol and he had it custom made of titanium and since he was the first one to place the order it costed $50 The guy spouts out BS on a regular basis and has no concept of California gun laws.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:29:08 PM EDT
Too bad Springfield didn't take up this project. If they had, today we'd have Mini-14's that you could actually hit something with as well as a decent supply of hi-capacity magazines for them. LOL.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:38:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 10:35:55 PM EDT by www-glock19-com]
a select fire hass assed conversion was built for military trails in the early 60s

called the T-48 or something like that ( it may have been the winchester one i don't really recall)

Im 99.99% sure that this guy doesn't have one


the ruger 308 fiasco was called the XGI

they said they could not get decent accuracy but the let the mini 14 out so that thing must have been atrocious
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 10:13:44 AM EDT
seems to me sombody made/makes an m1a in 243 IIRC

Link Posted: 3/28/2006 10:20:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Too bad Springfield didn't take up this project. If they had, today we'd have Mini-14's that you could actually hit something with as well as a decent supply of hi-capacity magazines for them. LOL.



Both the REAL Springfield Armory and TRW made M14s in 223 caliber but these were test weapons ONLY. They were part of the original High Velocity Combat Rifle tests in the 60s. I have no idea if any of these even made it out of developement.,
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 4:59:14 PM EDT
You know, the more I think about it, an M1 carbine or an M1A in .223 would be pretty neat. Especially if they could feed from AR mags.

Bet they'd make decent target or hunting rifles. Awesome plinkers, definitely.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 5:01:15 PM EDT
Your customer is an idiot.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 5:06:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Your customer is an idiot.



It is just shocking what sort of people walk in to gun shops these days. It used to be that buying a bunch of guns and running your mouth was a high-brow activity.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 5:12:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By eddiein1984:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Your customer is an idiot.



It is just shocking what sort of people walk in to gun shops these days. It used to be that buying a bunch of guns and running your mouth was a high-brow activity.




It's actually an AUTO parts store. And this idiot once pulled his piece out and passed it around the store like it was a fucking rare early Corvette fuel injection setup.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 5:30:25 PM EDT
Springfield Armory, Inc. of Geneseo, IL sold the M1A rifle at one time in .243 Winchester.

TRW in the 1960s made an experimental M14 in .223 caliber. It used M16 magazines.

There's a FFL/SOT in the metro Phoenix area that can do a .300 WSM conversion of the SA, Inc. M1A rifle. If you want to know who that is, IM me.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 5:39:43 PM EDT
Pay the man, he has a MINI-14.
Muahahahahahahahaha................................

jd1
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 5:48:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jd1:
Pay the man, he has a MINI-14.
Muahahahahahahahaha................................

jd1


And it's half Springfield?
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 5:49:26 PM EDT
Reference the ruger XGI, I once spoke with a Ruger rep about it when all the hype was flying. He stated that accuracy was not really considered a reason for why it was discontinued. Apparently it would hammer itself to pieces after as little as 500 rounds. It also had a propensity to slam-fire.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 6:37:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Your customer is an idiot.



+1
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 3:07:16 AM EDT
Yes, just look at the top of it, it looks Just Like a Springfield. Ruger licensed it from Springfield. That's why it doens't SAY Springfield, it's licensed. Just like the Iver Johnson Carbine was used in WWII. They called it the Johnson Rifle.

jd1
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 3:09:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By lambchops:
One of the regular customers and my work came in to day and we were talking guns as uusual. He tried to tell me that he has an m1a in .223. I didnt believe him and he tried to bet me $1000, when I refused he told me that if he was wrong he would buy me one of the rifles at his leo cost of $5,700 and if I was worng all I had to do was pay him $1000. After that he told me that the gun was half springfield and half ruger, that springfield made the top half and ruger made the bottom half. Oh...and he has 6 135 round barrel magazines that he keeps loaded at all times. Is there any truth to this?


If he has any gun at all, he has a Ruger mini-14.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 3:12:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By lambchops:
One of the regular customers and my work came in to day and we were talking guns as uusual. He tried to tell me that he has an m1a in .223. I didnt believe him and he tried to bet me $1000, when I refused he told me that if he was wrong he would buy me one of the rifles at his leo cost of $5,700 and if I was worng all I had to do was pay him $1000. After that he told me that the gun was half springfield and half ruger, that springfield made the top half and ruger made the bottom half. Oh...and he has 6 135 round barrel magazines that he keeps loaded at all times. Is there any truth to this?[/quote

No, Ruger did...

Mini-14....

Link Posted: 3/29/2006 3:18:07 AM EDT
A military collector friend once had an early Mini-14 redone with a custom M-14 stock, front sight, flash hider, etc. It looked like a 3/4 size M-14. Absolutely beautiful.

He never misrepresented what it was, but, after he sold it, we've noted it turns up once in a while for sale as a "prototype military" Mini-14.
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