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Posted: 3/17/2006 7:54:33 AM EDT
My wife and I were going through our baby picture files and burning a CD to take to the neighborhood drug store to have some prints made. As we were going through files we found the one that contained all the pictures of the birth. As we were picking pictures that we were going to print my wife asked if I thought it would be okay to print ones with the baby’s penis showing. I told here I didn’t think it would be any problem, I mean its pictures of a birth… nothing sexual. A little while later was a file with bunch of pictures of the baby’s first bath. Again my wife asked if I thought those pictures would be okay (a lots of pictures had the bay’s penis showing). I told her that its only a pictures of baby’s bath and that nobody would think it anything deviant about it. After few minutes my wife changed her mind… she went back and deleted all pictures that showed his penis from the file we were going to print. She said it would probably not cause any problems but just in case some asshole at the print lab calls the cops, it wouldn’t be worth the headache.

I can’t believe we live in a world where we have to think about this kind of shit.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 7:57:00 AM EDT
I don't know how many pictures I have that my parents/grandparents have of me in a cowboy hat running around the backyard naked when I was 2 years old or so. Now a days you'd be investigated for child porn if you had that stuff developed.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 7:58:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 8:00:40 AM EDT
I agree, yobo. It really depends on where you have the pics printed. Walmart would certainly report it to officials.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 8:07:21 AM EDT
These pics are all digital but my wife wants to print some of them to keep in the picture album and some to put in frames. Rest are just burned on CDs and a hard drive to keep. I thought about printing them at home but there are about 300 pics so far and she's not finished yet. I think we'll get most of them printed at the drug store and go buy a printer to print ones with the penis showing.

Link Posted: 3/17/2006 8:10:49 AM EDT
I wouldn't let others develop them.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 8:16:48 AM EDT
'Cheesecake' is one thing, but I don't think that I've ever seen a baby's photo taken with their penis or vagina showing.

Nor would I likely desire to 'capture the moment' for posterity.

Maybe you should stop and think that there are some really sick tickets out there who would love to have those pics.

Discretion.

Learn it, live it, love it.

Eric The(Sensible)Hun
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 8:23:52 AM EDT
Can you get or borrow a photo printer and print those that she's worried about at home?
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 8:27:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:

Maybe you should stop and think that there are some really sick tickets out there who would love to have those pics.




We shouldn't have to give a shit, Eric.

My mother has pictures of me naked. I was playing in the hose in our backyard when I was two. I got my clothes soaking wet, and took them off, and continued to play in the hose. She thought it was cute, so she took pictures. I get teased about it at family get-togethers. Everyone in my family has at some point seen those photos and had a laugh about it. Even me.

The fact that there are some sick fucks in the world does not mean that my mother should censor her photos or pose her children to avoid taking pictures of them naked or otherwise. Nor should I have to do it with my kids one day, nor should anyone else.

The whistle-blowing and worrying about it is not saving any kids, and that's just the plain and simple truth. Many families have photos of this type of their members as kids. It happens. It was done innocently, and it is still innocent. It ceases to become innocent when some sicko decides to have a good time with those pictures and give them a pornographice bent.

People like this should be executed. It's the only punishment for child pornography stiff enough to deter the sickos.

People should not be worried about taking photos of a baby's birth to the photomat to have them developed. They should not have to worry about taking photos of their child having a first bath to the photomat to be developed. They should not have to worry about taking photos of toddlers playing naked to the photomat to be developed.

You speak of discretion, Eric, and this is by no means a crack at you, as I respect you greatly; but what of the discretion of the person at the photomat, to keep their mouth shut, mind their own damned business, and not go whistle-blowing because some parent brings in pictures of their two week old child being bathed to be developed?
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 8:36:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By kpel308:
2 words:

Digital. Photo

Camera. Printer

Sorry, mate, but that's the world we live in.




Fixed it for ya.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 8:41:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mattimeo:

You speak of discretion, Eric, and this is by no means a crack at you, as I respect you greatly; but what of the discretion of the person at the photomat, to keep their mouth shut, mind their own damned business, and not go whistle-blowing because some parent brings in pictures of their two week old child being bathed to be developed?

With all due respect, Brother mattmeo, that is the point.

When you have to rely on the discretion of others, the control of the situation is no longer in your hands.

And that may be indicative of a lack of discretion on your part.

Sad, but true.

Eric The(FromAnotherTime,AnotherPlace,ItSeems)Hun
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 8:45:56 AM EDT
Am I the only one thinks your kids will thank you in a few years for not having any "embarrassing" pictures of his wang?
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 8:58:39 AM EDT
i took some naughty pics with an old girlfriend when i was like 17-18. i had them developed at Fred Meyer and i noticed a little message written on the enelope that said "Please use Polaroid next time". needless to say i was a little embarassed (not by anything in the pics of course) but i hadn't really thought about if the developers actually saw the pictures when they're being developed. yeah so what i was ignorant when i was a teen.

anyway i dont see how this helps...i could actually see how it might be a bad thing...sorry.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:07:27 AM EDT
If the baby's vagina was showing I would be worried.. you mean the vulva
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:14:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 9:17:28 AM EDT by FS-FNRL]
Print all pictures yourself! Never use film again!

It was my understanding that all photo labs no matter how big or small MUST REPORT UNDER PENALTY OF LAW all suspicious, or suspected criminal activity for investigation. Hey a couple just brought in a bunch of photos of a child, not sure if it is theirs.

You have given control of your photos to others. Hi I have 8 CDs worth of photos I would like printed. No problem, that will be $500. You come back and you have your CD’s and photos; but, the photo lab just made $2000 selling naughty pictures of your kid on the net.

I was once told this, “If you would not want it on the front page of the newspaper, don’t do it.”


ETA: I know a guy that had photos of his firearms developed at Target for insurance purposes. He goes to pick up his photos, and the local cops are there to “talk to him about the photos”. Turning into a nightmare, and a court battle.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:45:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:
Originally Posted By mattimeo:

You speak of discretion, Eric, and this is by no means a crack at you, as I respect you greatly; but what of the discretion of the person at the photomat, to keep their mouth shut, mind their own damned business, and not go whistle-blowing because some parent brings in pictures of their two week old child being bathed to be developed?

With all due respect, Brother mattmeo, that is the point.

When you have to rely on the discretion of others, the control of the situation is no longer in your hands.

And that may be indicative of a lack of discretion on your part.

Sad, but true.

Eric The(FromAnotherTime,AnotherPlace,ItSeems)Hun



Ah. Gotcha. Guess I can still learn something from my elders and betters, after all.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:50:35 AM EDT
Come on--you think someone at a film lab is going to report a naked picture of a NEWBORN baby to the cops? People are stupid, but not that stupid.

If you are concerned, there are plenty of self serve kiosks where you can print out your digital pictures yourself.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:51:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 9:51:40 AM EDT by EricTheHun]
Elder, yes, lamentably, Brother mattimeo, but better, no way!



Eric The(Humble)Hun
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:52:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DirtyMan:
If the baby's vagina was showing I would be worried.. you mean the vulva



Oh, please

Do you use the word "vulva" in regular conversation?
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:02:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By yobo:
My wife and I were going through our baby picture files and burning a CD to take to the neighborhood drug store to have some prints made. As we were going through files we found the one that contained all the pictures of the birth. As we were picking pictures that we were going to print my wife asked if I thought it would be okay to print ones with the baby’s penis showing. I told here I didn’t think it would be any problem, I mean its pictures of a birth… nothing sexual. A little while later was a file with bunch of pictures of the baby’s first bath. Again my wife asked if I thought those pictures would be okay (a lots of pictures had the bay’s penis showing). I told her that its only a pictures of baby’s bath and that nobody would think it anything deviant about it. After few minutes my wife changed her mind… she went back and deleted all pictures that showed his penis from the file we were going to print. She said it would probably not cause any problems but just in case some asshole at the print lab calls the cops, it wouldn’t be worth the headache.

I can’t believe we live in a world where we have to think about this kind of shit.



Pictures of your naked children are not child pornography. All of the state and federal laws that I have seen (and investigated and filed charges) say "sexually explicit", "engaged in sexual acts", or other such descriptions. Taking pictures of your child being born or of your child taking a bath is not child pornography. Most of the child pornography that I have seen has children engaging in sex acts. When you see it, you will know it and taking a picture of your child being born is not it.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:05:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tvc184:
Pictures of your naked children are not child pornography. All of the state and federal laws that I have seen (and investigated and filed charges) say "sexually explicit", "engaged in sexual acts", or other such descriptions. Taking pictures of your child being born or of your child taking a bath is not child pornography. Most of the child pornography that I have seen has children engaging in sex acts. When you see it, you will know it and taking a picture of your child being born is not it.



+1
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:07:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By slefelar:
Come on--you think someone at a film lab is going to report a naked picture of a NEWBORN baby to the cops? People are stupid, but not that stupid.

If you are concerned, there are plenty of self serve kiosks where you can print out your digital pictures yourself.



You'd be astonished at the number of idiots out there that would panic and go straight to the cops.

Don't believe me? Ask some of the LEOs here about some of the lunacy they deaql with on a daily basis.

People call the LEOs over the stupidest things.

Seriously.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:11:02 AM EDT
Digital camera

And there are a lot of sickos out there.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:15:44 AM EDT
True, but one can't live their life worrying about what some nimrod is going to do.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:16:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 10:16:29 AM EDT by Sukebe]
I had some developed of my daughter when she was about 6 months old. A few on the role were of her in the bath tub. They blurred out her, well... privates. I had to destroy that picture. The blurring made an innocent baby picture seem "inappropriate".


What a world indeed.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:16:52 AM EDT
You're right.
This is sad we have to think about it.
You have to worry about
A) the photo developers calling the Man on you
B) the photo developer being a sick fuck, and keeping some copies for himself.

Some world we live in, huh?
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:23:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By slefelar:
Come on--you think someone at a film lab is going to report a naked picture of a NEWBORN baby to the cops? People are stupid, but not that stupid.



A lot of people out in the world are a lot dumber than you give them credit for.
We read about them all the time on this board and wonder how there could be such dumb people in this world.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 11:13:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FS-FNRL:
ETA: I know a guy that had photos of his firearms developed at Target for insurance purposes. He goes to pick up his photos, and the local cops are there to “talk to him about the photos”. Turning into a nightmare, and a court battle.



A court battle? Over what?
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 1:59:54 PM EDT
There was a story on here few months ago about a father who got arrested for child abuse. Mother had taken a photo of the father kissing the baby on the bellybutton and when the photo was printed the photo shop worker called the police. The baby was taken away from the parents and sent to state child welfare dept. I think few years later when it got to the court the judge threw out the case before it started and had some strong words for the prosecuters. In the meantime the father lost his job, lost their home and was bankrupt. Yeah, he didn't get convicted but the price he had to pay was just too high.

I can happen and occasionally does happen.
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