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Posted: 3/14/2006 4:41:10 AM EDT
any good, guy at work says I should watch it and gave me a copy to watch. should I watch or just a waste of time?
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:42:17 AM EDT
Lord of teh suck. Don't waste your time.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:43:08 AM EDT
Good movie, I enjoyed it.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:44:35 AM EDT
Watched it last weekend. Sucked. Hated it.

Synopsis:

"Guns are bad, mkay?"

Yes you get to see some cool hardware, but nothing amazing. Might be a decent watch with the sound turned off.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:45:10 AM EDT
Is it the standard formula for baiting us with gun action commercials only to have it be a demonization of guns slant flick?

Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:46:43 AM EDT
the first 15 minutes are ok.
i started to suck when he met the chick.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:47:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By slaughter:
Good movie, I enjoyed it.



Guns bad, people with guns bad, guns kill children, guns make people evil, people with guns are evil.

So, what was good about it?
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:48:52 AM EDT
Great gun porn.
I found it interesting, especially the parts in Liberia and the ways Nicholas Cage keeps getting over on the UN.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:49:43 AM EDT
At least watch the opening scene, its cool. If you like bullets.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:51:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:

Originally Posted By slaughter:
Good movie, I enjoyed it.



Guns bad, people with guns bad, guns kill children, guns make people evil, people with guns are evil.

So, what was good about it?



I enjoyed the part where he was made to kill his competition.

How he out witted the agent for so long

How he was let go after , well watch the movie.

As far as guns being bad, well they were used in a bad way in this movie now weren't they ?

To say guns are portrayed as bad so I won't watch it , well just throw out your TV then.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:51:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:

Originally Posted By slaughter:
Good movie, I enjoyed it.



Guns bad, people with guns bad, guns kill children, guns make people evil, people with guns are evil.

So, what was good about it?



It must suck not having taste.

I liked the movie.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:52:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:
Is it the standard formula for baiting us with gun action commercials only to have it be a demonization of guns slant flick?




Ya because stopping the illegal gun trade around the world is such a bad thing.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:33:19 AM EDT
I thought it was a pretty good movie.

I thought it was more anti-illegal arms trade.

Selling AKs to African warlords to arm 13 year old kids is bad, don't care what your stance on the 2nd Amendment is.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:39:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By guardian855:
I thought it was a pretty good movie.

I thought it was more anti-illegal arms trade.

Selling AKs to African warlords to arm 13 year old kids is bad, don't care what your stance on the 2nd Amendment is.



signed :

A gun owner with a brain .

Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:41:49 AM EDT
pretty good movie, not incredible or anything. Just entertaining
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:45:12 AM EDT
I watched the movie recently. I honestly did not get any anti-gun messages or impressions from the movie. It is more daming of the gruesome violence and incivility of african conflicts, the corruption in the former soviet states, and the ineptitude of the UN/BATF. The only thing that pissed me off was the lame insinuations that the US gov is responsible for privateer gun running, etc. Kind of michael mooreish but other then that, not really anti-gun.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:51:46 AM EDT
The movie and the publicity about it by its director didn't really sync well. It's pretty obvious from the movie that people are going to get killed regardless of whether there are AK's or machetes-that the evil of man is responsible for killings, not just the inanimate gun. Yet the director made public comments about how guns were the real problem. It's a weird disconnect.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:55:50 AM EDT
I would watch it. Its an OK movie, I give it a 7 outta 10. Might as well since you have a copy
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:00:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2006 6:01:31 AM EDT by AMZ]
Its good entertainment, you now , Hollywood. A small escape from reality.

If you want reality, watch the news, well some of it anyway.

Great gun porn, a little history,nice camera work, especially the opening credits.


Edited to add--- It was also very well acted with believable characters.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:04:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2006 6:05:44 AM EDT by markm]

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By markm:
Is it the standard formula for baiting us with gun action commercials only to have it be a demonization of guns slant flick?




Ya because stopping the illegal gun trade around the world is such a bad thing.



Amen! Free trade of weapons should only apply to us!
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:08:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Poodleshooter:
The movie and the publicity about it by its director didn't really sync well. It's pretty obvious from the movie that people are going to get killed regardless of whether there are AK's or machetes-that the evil of man is responsible for killings, not just the inanimate gun. Yet the director made public comments about how guns were the real problem. It's a weird disconnect.





*SPOILER ALERT*

The only part that got me was when the Group of thugs were "Waiting" to get the guns so they could kill the 50 odd, defenseless pleople in that camp. They already machetted down two of them and could have easily commided their crime with machettes. (As they do in real life). It just made the viewer think that they HAD to have the guns to commit the crime.


*END SPOILER ALERT*


Other than that, it was really against the arms trade in general and that guns (and wars) are only used as political bargaining chips.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:12:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AMZ:
It was also very well acted.



for the first time in cage and hawke's lives, maybe.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:14:55 AM EDT
I thought it was pretty good,

it does a good job of showing the assholes that try to ban guns, like when nicholas cage was telling the agent that what he was doing was legal and the agent basically said I dont care you evil, its a BS loophole,

So even this agent knew that this guy was evil in his opinion, this guy didnt have the balls to do the right thing a bust him by any means possible.

Cage does a good job of making him look like an ass throughout the whole movie. i find it funny that he believes guns are evil, and cause pain, but is walking around with an hk mp5PDW. so its ok for you to have one but not anyone else?
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:24:25 AM EDT
It's got Nicolas "Cage" Coppolla in it....it can't be any good.

Guy couldn't act his way out of a paper bag and how he ever won an oscar is beyond me.

Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:25:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2006 6:28:53 AM EDT by JFP]
entertaining at best
somewhat paraphrased: "six billion people in the world. Enough firerms to arm one in every twelve. How do we arm the other eleven?" N. Cage.........
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:30:33 AM EDT
The director is anti-gun and he wanted to get non-guns for the movie. He found it was cheaper buying real AK's.

Movie makers get to have all the fun!
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 6:39:40 AM EDT
I just watched it this weekend for the first time. I liked it. If a friend gave you a copy to watch, just watch it and see what you think.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:20:57 PM EDT
... Not bad, even though I'm not of big fan of Nicholas Cage.

... Seemed fairly plausible and realistic except for a few stinky parts.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:32:42 PM EDT
It was lame and stupid propaganda picture designed to advance the UN small arms program described here:www.iansa.org/un/. It was dumb on many levels, such as the idea that AKs are highly profitable in the arms trade. If you want to make serious bank you sell more complex weapons or training, because that's where the high margin items are.

Avoid. Steal and burn any copies you may find at the video store.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:33:29 PM EDT
Liberal Blowjob Movie. I hated it.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:38:45 PM EDT
Relatively entertaining but definitely anti-gun undertone. 3.5 out of 5.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:44:17 PM EDT
I hated it. Not for any perceived anti-gun agenda - just because it was BORING as piss. The characters came off totally flat and uninteresting. Normally you're supposed to have some kind of emotion about the characters, but I could have cared less if he got locked up or got away with everything. I just wanted the movie to end. The story, which spanned decades, seemed to speed up at the wrong parts and slow down and drag at others. Poor execution overall. F-
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:54:39 PM EDT
I thought the movie was watchable, but the special features are interesting.... In the weapons profile section it says that the M16 shoots 7.62 form a 100 belt feed..... and shows it w/ an m203 attached (without mentioning it.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:55:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By slaughter:
Good movie, I enjoyed it.



+1
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 9:05:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/21/2006 9:06:54 PM EDT by Mr-H]
It was almost as good as Runaway Jury.

Other than the anti-gun undertones, it was absolutely pointless.
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