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Posted: 3/10/2006 1:30:20 PM EDT
what's the story behind this 1911 being worth 25 thousand bucks?
www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976654388.htm

Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:33:40 PM EDT
I seriously wouldn't pay $25 for it, let alone 25k.

Looks like a hunk of shit to me.

I'm sure someone will inform me of how wonderful it is....but it still looks like a piece of shit.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:34:10 PM EDT
I would give maybe $250 for that pistol.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:34:50 PM EDT
I wouldn't give them $25.00 for that firearm but, I am rather peculiar when it comes to such archaic items.

Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:35:04 PM EDT
it's a very rare piece with a lot of collector demand, hence the price.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:37:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:39:15 PM EDT
Maybe its 25k Canadian...thats like 15 bucks right.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:40:50 PM EDT
it's a 1911. they're all overpriced
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:41:28 PM EDT
The sellers' rationale is: North American Arms Co Limited, Quebec Canada. Serial # 96 of 100 tool room pre-production pistols completed befor the contract was cancelled.

Collectors item. Apparently, something caused the contract to be cancelled. Shitty workmanship?
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:41:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2006 1:43:35 PM EDT by Dracster]

Originally Posted By cduarte:
it's a very rare piece with a lot of collector demand, hence the price.



Only ~100 Noth American's were made, all from parts and basically toolroom models/prototypes. NA was a Canadian company who was going to make M1911s for Uncle Sugar during WW1. None were delivered to the Army. These are in the same boat as the Singer M1911A1s, very rare and very expensive when found.

ETA: It is overpriced. One sold at auction in Jan. 05 for $16.8K.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:42:07 PM EDT
Because it's KB proof!
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:42:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2006 1:43:06 PM EDT by fxntime]
Because in truth it is rarer then a Singer 1911. The condition is pretty poor, but that finish was known to flake easily and a collector should know one with that supposed finish without flaking is suspicious.

If one collected 1911s and A1s [USGI] it would make for a excellent collection piece. I would prefer the condition to be better but IF it is 100% original that would be quite a nice find. In that condition all parts would have to be correct, and the BBL in reasonable shape.

[ Some of you guys don't know SHIT about collecting USGI 1911s and your ignorance is pathetically embaressing. Before you snipe, do a bit of homework first and understand the rarity of the piece].
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:42:13 PM EDT
$25K...yeah okay

I could break it by hitting it with my Glock.

Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:43:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
Because in truth it is rarer then a Singer 1911. The condition is pretty poor, but that finish was known to flake easily and a collector should know one with that supposed finish without flaking is suspicious.

If one collected 1911s and A1s [USGI] it would make for a excellent collection piece. I would prefer the consition to be better but IF it is 100% original that would be quite a nice find. In that condition all parts would have to be correct, and the BBL in reasonable shape.

[ Some of you guys don't know SHIT about collecting USGI 1911s and your ignorance is pathetically embaressing. Before you snipe, do a bit of homework first and understand the rarity of the piece].



Jesus fucking Christ! What is your problem dude.

Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:46:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:46:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MEI2757935:
$25K...yeah okay

I could break it by hitting it with my Glock.




Yeah, maybe that would improve the accuracy of that ugly fucking rubix cube of yours.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:46:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
it's a 1911. they're all overpriced




+1


Maybe he wants $2,500 but he got a little crazy with the zeros
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:48:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MEI2757935:

Originally Posted By fxntime:
Because in truth it is rarer then a Singer 1911. The condition is pretty poor, but that finish was known to flake easily and a collector should know one with that supposed finish without flaking is suspicious.

If one collected 1911s and A1s [USGI] it would make for a excellent collection piece. I would prefer the consition to be better but IF it is 100% original that would be quite a nice find. In that condition all parts would have to be correct, and the BBL in reasonable shape.

[ Some of you guys don't know SHIT about collecting USGI 1911s and your ignorance is pathetically embaressing. Before you snipe, do a bit of homework first and understand the rarity of the piece].



Jesus fucking Christ! What is your problem dude.




Because you are making fun of a price without even bothering to understand why it is priced the way it is. For some in the USGI world it is one of the "Holy Grails" and when one pops up its nice to see.

And I'm not mad, just bashing you all a bit because if YOU owned it and sold it for $25 bucks I would hope it would be to ME.


Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:50:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
<snip>
[ Some of you guys don't know SHIT about collecting USGI 1911s and your ignorance is pathetically embaressing. Before you snipe, do a bit of homework first and understand the rarity of the piece].



I have zero interest in collecting ANY 1911's or any other firearm(s) so, I need not research a damn thing.
In my opinion, the item listed above is junk. You know, one mans junk is another mans treasure? Go a head and bid on the item, enjoy it, relish the rarity of the item, it matters not to me for it is 'your monies and your prerogative'.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:50:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:
For 25k you'd think he'd have a few more photos or offer more proof of its authenticity.



I would want at least 7 days and a internal/external inspection by an expert myself. He's a bit high but I'd bet he"ll pull 20K out of it.

Some of mine have doubled and tripled in price in the past year.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:51:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
Because in truth it is rarer then a Singer 1911. The condition is pretty poor, but that finish was known to flake easily and a collector should know one with that supposed finish without flaking is suspicious.

If one collected 1911s and A1s [USGI] it would make for a excellent collection piece. I would prefer the condition to be better but IF it is 100% original that would be quite a nice find. In that condition all parts would have to be correct, and the BBL in reasonable shape.

[ Some of you guys don't know SHIT about collecting USGI 1911s and your ignorance is pathetically embaressing. Before you snipe, do a bit of homework first and understand the rarity of the piece].




i sort of agree with the last part

you got 13 replies

of the replies, most are negative comments by people who don't know the first thing about the gun.

Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:51:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pulpsmack:

Originally Posted By MEI2757935:
$25K...yeah okay

I could break it by hitting it with my Glock.




Yeah, maybe that would improve the accuracy of that ugly fucking rubix cube of yours.





How dare you sir!

Link Posted: 3/10/2006 1:56:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By UH_SALT_RIFLE:
Because it's KB proof!



Of course it is...it's a 1911! In the event of an overpressure, it funnels all the extra into a quantum singularity where it travels to the enemy capital (in this case, WW1 = Berlin) and utterly destroys it.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 4:19:07 PM EDT
The last Singer changed hands at about $35K. It could quite possibly sell for $25K. In the 1911 world, you are looking at one of the Holy Grails.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 4:45:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Will-Rogers:
The last Singer changed hands at about $35K. It could quite possibly sell for $25K. In the 1911 world, you are looking at one of the Holy Grails.



wow.interesting.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 4:49:07 PM EDT
Don't forget to factor in the $2000+ markup for sending it to Yost/Bonitz in order to make it run right
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 4:54:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
your ignorance is pathetically embaressing.



Link Posted: 3/10/2006 5:01:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Moe-Ron:

Originally Posted By fxntime:
your ignorance is pathetically embaressing.






Yeah, I know, was in the middle of taking the mutts out and as soon as I ran outside with them I thought, "damn, I spelled that wrong". I'll take the [red foreman] DUMBASS [red foreman] for it.
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