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Posted: 3/6/2006 8:12:33 PM EDT
I'm having a total brain cramp and I need to help my son with his home work. What lead our fore fathers to writing the First Amendment?

Also do you think the Amendments were written in order of importance or coincidence?
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:18:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:19:35 PM EDT
We don't have a first amendment anymore.
We have newspeak and political correctness.
Just look around.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:21:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
I'm having a total brain cramp and I need to help my son with his home work. What lead our fore fathers to writing the First Amendment?

Also do you think the Amendments were written in order of importance or coincidence?



We have a bill of rights because two states wouldn't sign the constitution without it.

The 1st amendment is important because the ability to speak freely and openly about governmental policies to force change is the driving force behind our republic.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:21:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
The British seized printing presses, broke up public meetings and protests, and ignored our attempts to peacably resolve our problems with their conduct, among a couple of other items.
the Declaration of Independance's list of greivances gives a pretty good, if general, idea of what they were doing.



Thanks DoubleFeed, I can't believe I could remember this!
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:24:37 PM EDT
Patty,

You're closing in on 15K!



HH
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:29:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tim84K10:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
I'm having a total brain cramp and I need to help my son with his home work. What lead our fore fathers to writing the First Amendment?

Also do you think the Amendments were written in order of importance or coincidence?



We have a bill of rights because two states wouldn't sign the constitution without it.

The 1st amendment is important because the ability to speak freely and openly about governmental policies to force change is the driving force behind our republic.



I understand why we have the First Amendment what I'm asking is what lead our forefather specifically to write this particular amendment. What events lead up to this?

DoubleFeed I'm reading the Declaration of Independence and I don't see where they specifically point out where their freedoms of speech, religion etc was denied?
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:30:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Patty,

You're closing in on 15K!



HH



I am such a post whore!
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:30:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:34:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By Tim84K10:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
I'm having a total brain cramp and I need to help my son with his home work. What lead our fore fathers to writing the First Amendment?

Also do you think the Amendments were written in order of importance or coincidence?



We have a bill of rights because two states wouldn't sign the constitution without it.

The 1st amendment is important because the ability to speak freely and openly about governmental policies to force change is the driving force behind our republic.



I understand why we have the First Amendment what I'm asking is what lead our forefather specifically to write this particular amendment. What events lead up to this?

DoubleFeed I'm reading the Declaration of Independence and I don't see where they specifically point out where their freedoms of speech, religion etc was denied?



I told you. Two states refused to ratify the constitution without a bill of rights.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:35:13 PM EDT
To give us a good reason to hold on to the 2nd amendment.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:35:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:37:52 PM EDT
Beginning with Roger Williams, the colonies had a strong history of government non-involvement in religion. Britain had been splintered by sectarian civil war, and the Founders had no wish to see the same occur here.

Regarding free speech, the founders were good Liberals, they believed in individual freedom very strongly and sought ways to protect the individual from both society and the government.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:49:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Regarding free speech, the founders were good Liberals, they believed in individual freedom very strongly and sought ways to protect the individual from both society and the government.



DAMN! I love that statement! Our founding fathers were classical liberals, long before FDR and his socialist assholes hijacked the word!
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:53:43 PM EDT
Internet porn, baby. They saw it coming.



(no pun intended)
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:58:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 5:27:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tim84K10:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By Tim84K10:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
I'm having a total brain cramp and I need to help my son with his home work. What lead our fore fathers to writing the First Amendment?

Also do you think the Amendments were written in order of importance or coincidence?



We have a bill of rights because two states wouldn't sign the constitution without it.

The 1st amendment is important because the ability to speak freely and openly about governmental policies to force change is the driving force behind our republic.



I understand why we have the First Amendment what I'm asking is what lead our forefather specifically to write this particular amendment. What events lead up to this?

DoubleFeed I'm reading the Declaration of Independence and I don't see where they specifically point out where their freedoms of speech, religion etc was denied?



I told you. Two states refused to ratify the constitution without a bill of rights.



This is hog wash. The Constitution was radified and implimented the Bill of Rights are Amendments. The compromise was how the powers of the Congress was divided.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 5:28:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2006 5:28:52 AM EDT by John_Wayne777]

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
The British seized printing presses, broke up public meetings and protests, and ignored our attempts to peacably resolve our problems with their conduct, among a couple of other items.
the Declaration of Independance's list of greivances gives a pretty good, if general, idea of what they were doing.



Not to mention they established a state church that everyone had to belong to or suffer a penalty.

Link Posted: 3/7/2006 5:35:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
The British seized printing presses, broke up public meetings and protests, and ignored our attempts to peacably resolve our problems with their conduct, among a couple of other items.
the Declaration of Independance's list of greivances gives a pretty good, if general, idea of what they were doing.



Not to mention they established a state church that everyone had to belong to or suffer a penalty.




The British didn't really do this in America though did they? I've been looking for evidence of that. We did have some Puritan Principals that were over bearing to say the least imposed but it seemed that was instigated by the local authorities more so?
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 5:36:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
The British didn't really do this in America though did they? I've been looking for evidence of that. We did have some Puritan Principals that were over bearing to say the least imposed but it seemed that was instigated by the local authorities more so?



People like the Puritans came to America specifically because of the nonsense with the Church of England.

That was one of the reasons for the religion clauses in the 1st ammendment.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 5:46:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
The British didn't really do this in America though did they? I've been looking for evidence of that. We did have some Puritan Principals that were over bearing to say the least imposed but it seemed that was instigated by the local authorities more so?



People like the Puritans came to America specifically because of the nonsense with the Church of England.

That was one of the reasons for the religion clauses in the 1st ammendment.



Exactly. Lots of people here were here for exactly that reason. They were free to worship as they pleased in the colonies and England seemed happy to have them leave.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 5:57:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
I'm having a total brain cramp and I need to help my son with his home work. What lead our fore fathers to writing the First Amendment?

Also do you think the Amendments were written in order of importance or coincidence?



___

A segue to the all-important 2nd Ammendment!
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 6:03:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By scuba_ed:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
I'm having a total brain cramp and I need to help my son with his home work. What lead our fore fathers to writing the First Amendment?

Also do you think the Amendments were written in order of importance or coincidence?



___

A segue to the all-important 2nd Ammendment!



I always viewed the first amendment as the sole inspiration to write the second....

"Hmm....the 1st Amendment is gonna need some insurance.....hmmmm"
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 6:04:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
I'm having a total brain cramp and I need to help my son with his home work. What lead our fore fathers to writing the First Amendment?

Also do you think the Amendments were written in order of importance or coincidence?



http://apollo3.com/~jameso/first5.html
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 6:09:08 AM EDT
Patty, the first ten ammendments, AKA the Bill of Rights, were ratified with the Constitution, and it would not have been ratified otherwise.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 6:10:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hokie:

Originally Posted By scuba_ed:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
I'm having a total brain cramp and I need to help my son with his home work. What lead our fore fathers to writing the First Amendment?

Also do you think the Amendments were written in order of importance or coincidence?



___

A segue to the all-important 2nd Ammendment!



I always viewed the first amendment as the sole inspiration to write the second....

"Hmm....the 1st Amendment is gonna need some insurance.....hmmmm"



I have too. Hence the reason I wrote and asked if you think the Bill of Rights were written in order of importance. I was talking with my son's classmates about that and they all figured it was just a ramdom process. They don't know Madison too well do they?
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 6:31:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2006 6:31:47 AM EDT by scuba_ed]
Hi Patty...look also at the documents of George Mason on this topic.

Ed
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 6:53:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By Tim84K10:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By Tim84K10:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
I'm having a total brain cramp and I need to help my son with his home work. What lead our fore fathers to writing the First Amendment?

Also do you think the Amendments were written in order of importance or coincidence?



We have a bill of rights because two states wouldn't sign the constitution without it.

The 1st amendment is important because the ability to speak freely and openly about governmental policies to force change is the driving force behind our republic.



I understand why we have the First Amendment what I'm asking is what lead our forefather specifically to write this particular amendment. What events lead up to this?

DoubleFeed I'm reading the Declaration of Independence and I don't see where they specifically point out where their freedoms of speech, religion etc was denied?



I told you. Two states refused to ratify the constitution without a bill of rights.



This is hog wash. The Constitution was radified and implimented the Bill of Rights are Amendments. The compromise was how the powers of the Congress was divided.



I remember what you're talking about patty . . .but couldn't you BOTH be right?
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 7:27:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2006 7:27:56 AM EDT by motown_steve]
Everyone knows that the TRUE purpose of the first amendment was to prevent public displays of the 10 commandments and to keep students from praying in schools.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 7:49:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Everyone knows that the TRUE purpose of the first amendment was to prevent public displays of the 10 commandments and to keep students from praying in schools.



Yes, and to prevent a city from celebrating Christmas The Holidays with a nativity scene err... christmas tree.... ohh.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 7:52:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gravitas1:I remember what you're talking about patty . . .but couldn't you BOTH be right?


I think you're right but I can't find proof of it on the Internet. It reads that the Constitution was ratified and the Bill of Rights were Amended two years later. If I remember correctly Virginia and IIRC Vermont had a what to do about it but I can't find anything on that particular subject - just the "Great Compromise" in regards to the division of Congress.

In the matters of religion I can't find any specific laws England tried to cram on us that limited our freedoms of religion. In fact no mention of religious oppression is mentioned in the Crimes against the King in our Declaration of Independence. God I love these kind of assignments! I teh suck at Physics.
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