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Posted: 3/1/2006 5:28:07 PM EDT
Food for thought involving the Iraq War.

www.stripes.com/article.asp?article=35385§ion=104
Poll of troops in Iraq sees 72% support for withdrawal within a year
By Leo Shane III, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Wednesday, March 1, 2006

WASHINGTON — Seventy-two percent of troops on the ground in Iraq think U.S. military forces should get out of the country within a year, according to a Zogby poll released Tuesday.

The survey of 944 troops, conducted in Iraq between Jan. 18 and Feb. 14, said that only 23 percent of servicemembers thought U.S. forces should stay “as long as they are needed.”

Of the 72 percent, 22 percent said troops should leave within the next six months, and 29 percent said they should withdraw “immediately.” Twenty-one percent said the U.S. military presence should end within a year; 5 percent weren’t sure.

But policy experts differ on exactly what those numbers mean.

Justin Logan, a foreign policy analyst for the Cato Institute, called the figure alarming, and a sign that the Bush administration and troops in Iraq see the goals and the progress of the war very differently.

The president has opposed any plans for a withdrawal date, saying troops will remain until Iraq’s security is assured. Logan sees so many troops wanting a clear time line as showing “an alarming disconnect” between the policy and its implementation.

But Loren Thompson, a military analyst with the Lexington Institute, said troops who say the U.S. should withdraw could be concerned for their own safety, or they could be optimistic about progress so far, or they could simply be opposed to the idea of operations in Iraq.

“You have to pick apart each servicemember’s thought process to understand what that means,” he said. “I think this is about personal circumstances, and not proof there is a higher rate of troops who desire departure.”

Defense Department officials declined to comment on the poll, saying they did not have details on how the survey was conducted.

John Zogby, CEO of the polling company, said the poll was funded through Le Moyne College’s Center for Peace and Global Studies, which received money for the project from an anonymous, anti-war activist, but neither the activist nor the school had input on the content of the poll.

Zogby said the survey was conducted face-to-face throughout Iraq, with permission from commanders. Despite the difficulty of polling in a war zone, he said, pollsters were pleased with the results.

“This is a credible and representative look at what the troops are saying,” he said. “Clearly there are those [in the U.S.] who will speak for the troops, so there is a real value in seeing what they are actually saying.”

The poll also shows that 42 percent of the troops surveyed are unsure of their mission in Iraq, and that 85 percent believe a major reason they were sent into war was “to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the Sept. 11 attacks.” Ninety-three percent said finding and destroying weapons of mass destruction is not a reason for the ongoing military action.

“We were surprised by that, especially the 85 percent [figure],” Zogby said. “Clearly that is much higher than the consensus among the American public, and the public’s perception [on that topic] is much higher than the actual reality of the situation.”

In terms of current operations, 80 percent of those polled said they did not hold a negative view of all Iraqis because of the ongoing attacks against coalition military forces.

More than 43 percent of those polled said their equipment, such as Humvees, body armor and munitions, is adequate for the jobs facing them, while 30 percent said it is not.

Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C. and chairman of the Victory in Iraq Caucus, a group of 118 Republican lawmakers, said the poll does not diminish his opinion of the importance of the armed forces role in Iraq.

“Whatever the percentages are, I know 100 percent of our troops want to complete their mission over there,” he said. “My view is, whatever the poll results say, the bottom line is these are troops who will continue their mission, because they would rather fight the enemy overseas than at home.”

Of those surveyed, 75 percent have served multiple tours in Iraq, 63 percent were under 30 years old, and 75 percent were male.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 5:40:24 PM EDT
So what?

Most of the troops there are probably in favor of going home within a year because they ARE going home within a year.

How you phrase the question will determine the response you get.

In you phrase the questions in such a fashion as to give the impression the question is 'Do YOU want to go home within the next year?' Such deliberately misleading/deceptive questions are par for the course in politically motivated polls.

In addition, I don't recall the soldiers having a big personal say in choosing to go or not. They probably bitch about being there, but I know that when it comes to be my turn I will make the best of it and KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 5:45:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/1/2006 5:47:29 PM EDT by CAR-10]

Originally Posted By Jame_Retief:
So what?

Most of the troops there are probably in favor of going home within a year because they ARE going home within a year.

How you phrase the question will determine the response you get.

In you phrase the questions in such a fashion as to give the impression the question is 'Do YOU want to go home within the next year?' Such deliberately misleading/deceptive questions are par for the course in politically motivated polls.

In addition, I don't recall the soldiers having a big personal say in choosing to go or not. They probably bitch about being there, but I know that when it comes to be my turn I will make the best of it and KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT.



Or you could just take it at face value. It's a Zogby [funded by Soros ].
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 6:09:05 PM EDT
Just here doing my job. Rather be at home but this IS the job I signed up for. Might as well do it right.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 6:12:31 PM EDT
Anyone who doesn't see how laughably ridiculous this poll is can't be all that smart. This same pollster said John Kerry would win handily. Did he?
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 6:13:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/1/2006 6:14:06 PM EDT by LARRYG]
So, they polled every soldier there? The left is pulling the same shit they did on us 30 some odd years ago and some of you are falling right into their trap.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 6:20:04 PM EDT
The public isn't dumb enough to believe a poll by Zogby, who bungles every prediction badly. Nope, that poll is to make the moonbats feel good about giving money to looney left organizations like the one that funded the poll.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 6:21:04 PM EDT
They wouldn't be normal if they didn't want to come home.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 7:57:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DnPRK:
The public isn't dumb enough to believe a poll by Zogby, who bungles every prediction badly. Nope, that poll is to make the moonbats feel good about giving money to looney left organizations like the one that funded the poll.



Zogby is a terrorist apologist (of Arab decent) and has been right exactly 0 times in the last 6 years with his election polling. A poll taken by him and funded by leftist anti-war activist using God only knows what actual questions don’t mean much.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 8:00:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LARRYG:
So, they polled every soldier there? The left is pulling the same shit they did on us 30 some odd years ago and some of you are falling right into their trap.



Yea pretty much...

It is not real stunning news Soliders and Marines want to go home...
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 9:21:38 AM EDT
Zogby is in cahoots with the terrorists.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 9:29:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dance:
John Zogby, CEO of the polling company, said the poll was funded through Le Moyne College’s Center for Peace and Global Studies, which received money for the project from an anonymous, anti-war activist, but neither the activist nor the school had input on the content of the poll.


This says everything you should need to know about the authenticity of this survey.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 9:37:03 AM EDT
Yeah, did you notice, a poll of 944 troops...thats not a very big poll population...

Anyway, as was stated Zogby is a terrorist and muslim apoplogist, like he doesn't skew his polls....
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 9:40:50 AM EDT
Another designer poll brought to you by the left agenda. I'd love to see the actual poll questions and the demographics.
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