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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:02:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:03:55 AM EDT
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You would think the LEO's would appreciate that you had a CHL-it all but shouts out "not a felon".
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:05:18 AM EDT
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For a balanced presentation, here are surefire ways to ensure you get a severe butt whoopin when stopped:
1. Do you know how fast you were going?? SUUUUEEEEEYYYY!!!!! 2. Where are you headed?? Your mom just booty called me, and I am going while the gettin' is good!! 3. Where do you work? I'm just a love machine. And I don't work for nobody but you. 4. Do you have and drugs or guns in the car? All I have is this pound of meth and the big weapon I keep in my pants.....I'll make a man out of you, baby!! |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:05:56 AM EDT
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How fast where you going?
88 mph Where are you going? TO THE FUTURE! This only works if you drive a delorean though... 
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:07:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:09:13 AM EDT
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<------------ risking hijacking the thread
Sounds like fun! What car and where? And how did he catch you!? |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:09:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:10:36 AM EDT
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Guys, don't be an A$$ to the cops, and life will be much easier for you. Most people aren't fully aware of all the laws on the books. Most cops know lots of small unobscure laws that can get you a court date and a fine, they tend to share this kind of info with each other. Here in NC your registration card isn't valid unless you sign it, screw with a NC Highway Patrolman and bet he'll check yours, and write you a ticket if it isn't. If you are nice, hand him your license and CCW card and tell him you have a weapon, and he still asks very specific questions, your don't have to answer them, but you don't have to be a PITA either. I always put the weapon on the dash and put both hands out the window with my palms open long before he gets to the window. That way I'm not operating under CCW laws, but open carry laws. I answer their questions with short, respectful answers that end with "Sir." I've never had a problem, and only gotten two tickets in 17 years of driving. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:11:16 AM EDT
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You certainly wouldn't be the first woman to pull that trick. Yeah, I have a little bone to pick in that arena. 
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:15:35 AM EDT
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I always try to cooperate, the cops can make your day a lot worse if he choses to. I try to not give them a reason to fuck with me
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:15:43 AM EDT
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[arfcom]What is the best optic for colon camping if SHTF??[/arfcom] |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:16:21 AM EDT
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As for pulling the lawyer's recommended answer, that's a sure way to give a cop a bad mood. Regardless of whether or not I want to not answer his questions, I'll stick with answers that leave him in a good mood. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:19:56 AM EDT
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I believe the latest case law is 60-90 mintes for "Detaining". Of course your mileage may vary. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:24:23 AM EDT
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I have no problems answering the questions. Obviously I've been breaking the law otherwise I wouldnt be pulled over to begin with. I've had a few cops decide to let me off easy because I was honest, I've never had a cop let me off because I was a dick.
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:28:42 AM EDT
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Nice. The Weaver stance comment was funny, too. In that wrong kinda way. 
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:31:25 AM EDT
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Do you have any guns or drugs in the car? I have nothing illegal in my car, officer. Why are all of you giving yes/no answers. THis is not a test. In a prior post some one gave the example of answering no to this quesiton even if you had a gun in the car legally. I try to refrain from actually LYING as that can get you in trouble. I just reframe the question and answer it as above. The LEO can read that as a "no" or he can ask another way. I will be hard pressed to ever admit a gun in the car as it woudl be legally stowed anyway. Do you mind if I search your car? I am sorry officer, I will not authorize a consent search. If they have probable cause they would not be asking you anyway. If they REALLY want in the car they will get in - some way some how. But if they REALLY want in they likely have a justifiable reason. Curiousity is not enough. I suppose I wouYMMV |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:35:21 AM EDT
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The ACLU used to have a card you could print on their website to keep in your wallet giving you tips on how to handle these types of questions.
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:40:43 AM EDT
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Actually the three times I've been pulled over since I got mine, the officers went from high and mighty to fairly polite and I was given a warning. Complete changes in demeanor. Except for one, who had to be near retirement, he was a really nice guy to begin with. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:40:51 AM EDT
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They still have it. Here's one link to it: ACLU "bust card" |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:57:49 AM EDT
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why do they ask where you work ?
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:57:53 AM EDT
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I'll answer some questions as long as we are not playing games. If it starts getting silly then I'll just take my ticket. I've had one experiance that came close. When he started asking what I was buying at the stores I balked. I told him I didn't think it was any of the city's business what I buy at Home Depot. If they were really interested they could go look it up at the store.
He got curious because my hands naturally shake all the time, and when I get aggitated that only gets massively worse. He explained his concern, I explained the situation. He didn't ask any more questions and I got a warning.  Maybe I should have drawn down on him and slapped him with my rights stick? |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:01:41 AM EDT
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Good answer: I am a manager at XYZ company Bad answer: I am a drug dealer and pimp |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:11:18 AM EDT
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I've only been asked "Do you know how fast you were going?", none of the other questions, but I still get 1 speeding ticket every five years or so cause the cops where I live aren't into giving warnings and it seems like I'm always doing about 11mph over the legal limit (State troopers are completely different, they're very nice to deal with). However, in both cases it was basically a speed trap, thje first time I just moved out to the valley and as soon as you drive over a rise, it drops from 65 to 45 and a cop was just waiting there for me.
The last time it was a motorcycle cop, a rarity in Alaska with our short summers, and I was caught doing 36 in a 25, which is a long stretch of road that I've never seen anyone drive 25 on. "Why were you driving so fast?" was what he asked me, I'll never forget it, cause he was very alarmed. he also approached my car by rubbing against it and stretching out his left arm to take my papers. I had both hands on my steering wheel and we were in the post office parking lot with tons of ppl around. he told me his personal cutoff limit was 10mph and I was doing 11mph over the limit, so he was giving me a ticket. When he came back to give it to me, and I'll never forget this, he did the same procedure, his chest was against my suv and he had his hand on his gun and the ticket, etc... stretched out for me to take. I havea clean record, no felonies, no arrests, and the last speeding ticket was over 5 years ago. I have to literally unbuckle my seatbelt and contort around to reach out towards the back of the car to get my papers. This really pissed me off, especially since my two kids were there and tons of ppl were about. He asked if I had any questions, I answered, "Nope, you know why? Cause this is bullshit." He asked why it was bullshit and for the life of me, I don't understand why, he then came up to my window and seemed genuinely concerned, "It's a speedtrap, you know it, I know it." "No it's not..." "Yeah whatever, are we done here?" "Yup, have a nice day." Never been treated like that before, but I'm used to living in a state where the cops don't treat you like a scumbag. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:15:11 AM EDT
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Doesn't work on female cops though I dunno, I just don't see the sense in purposely being difficult with an LEO. I got outta one ticket smiling sweetly, paid two (one female cop, the other a CT trooper <shudder>), had one dismissed <sucks when a new recruit is learning the ropes>, and got outta one because a close friend is on the local force. So I am not that cute, evidently. Yes I drive fast. No I don't really "TRY" to drive fast...it's a New England affliction. Sadly, there is no cure.  |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:18:13 AM EDT
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Become a team member. Best $24 I ever spent (not on guns) and i always give straight, honest, and to the point answers. i dont make shit up and don't make excuses. i also do not self-incriminate. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:18:50 AM EDT
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appreantly the speedo must me off. caus when u hit 88mph ur back to the future and have avoided a ticket. holmes |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:25:06 AM EDT
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Don't bet on that.  |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:39:40 AM EDT
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When I lived in SLC I had a wrx, spent some time and money with cobb tuning. Had an all freeway commute at 4am, so I was hitting 120 at least twice a day. The 140 was on hwy 89 in south utah, going through the desert/mesa area's. They usually get me when there is a long stretch with smooth rolling hills, hiding in a valley. If I see them pull out behind me, I shut it down an pull over before they straighten out and wait for them. Other times they will just flash their lights and point at me while sitting in the median, just a visual warning. The 80 in a 40 I got pulled for when I was 17, driving a '96 Toyota Corolla after a bad day at work. The corolla was also my getaway car the one time in my life when I tried and did lose a cop. Whether I really lost him or he had something else to do, I would never ever do that again. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:50:49 AM EDT
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Don't worry, Sheep. You can find it on Page 1 of GD all day today, at least until it gets locked. 
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:03:39 AM EDT
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 um...well......then.... nah...I'll pay the fine. I kinda think that after all these years, my hinges won't swing the other way........... |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:05:44 AM EDT
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I'm nice, I'm cooperative, but I trust him about as much as two dudes sneaking up on me in a 7-11 parking lot. It's not personal, he's just not my friend.
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:11:27 AM EDT
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I CAN'T go there I'll get a disease or something..... 
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:11:58 AM EDT
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Don't be afraid to give it the old college try. And post pics
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:12:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:20:31 AM EDT
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Maybe if you slowed down, you'd like the police better
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:21:10 AM EDT
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In Ohio I must inform him of the fact that I have a CHL and where the gun is. I give them my paperwork and inform them that the info is correct on all of it. When I give them the paperwork I ask to be told when I am free to go. Any questions from the officer are answered with "Sir, am I free to go?" or "Sir didn't the paperwork answer your question?" I always answer with a polite question.
Got stopped once by a Local Policeman that mistook me for a guy he had arrested. No ammount of "Yessir, Nosir" would get him to believe this. He didn't "believe" my liscence was correct nor did he run it. After about 25 minutes of this crap I told him that I was going to the payphone about 50 yards away to dial 911. Why the heck would you do that. I am going to get the Sherriff to send a deputy out here to either arrest me for being a robber or you for kidnapping. He damn near swallowed his tounge and told me to have a nice day and that I was free to go. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:32:34 AM EDT
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It's not that I don't like them, just that I am under no illusions. And yeah, I did slow down, cause speeding costs too much. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:35:43 AM EDT
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Been covered many times on here.. and all of the threads end the same way... Cop Hates vs Cops -d |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:35:52 AM EDT
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Way better stance is to be courteous, friendly and honest. Here in Texas, when police that have pulled me see the eagle globe and anchor, then see the permit, they say hey slow down and have a good day. I have police friends who say that your lawyer friends advice is guaranteed to create a attitude with the cop. Why stick a finger in their eye? What does it serve? I am a big one on policing the police, but why create a problem where none exists? As a guy who works with lawyers everyday, I would say your friend has given you very poor advice.
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:40:36 AM EDT
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His attorney friend is just trying to get himself some more clients... -d |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:43:11 AM EDT
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I guess for me it depends on the situation.
I was cruising down VA Hwy 58, you guys in VA know what a speed trap that can be as the speeds go from 55 to 35 in about a second and a half. I was guilty as hell, made no bones about it. The officer asked some questions about where I was going and where I lived and such. Considering I had VA tags, an IL DL and was going to GA, I can understand. By answering the questions the officer was able to judge for himself what type of person I was, why I was speeding, and he used discretion- a rare thing to be able to exercise in this world of zero tolerance. In the end, it worked out better for me. Now had I been in a less perilous and ambiguous situation, I may or may not be as cooperative. As much as getting a ticket depends on the driver's attitude, so too does cooperation depend on the cop's attitude. If I perceive that he's on a fishing expedition, I won't be nearly as cooperative. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:43:11 AM EDT
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+1,000,000 -d |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:44:42 AM EDT
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Have all of these been in AZ?? -d |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:45:16 AM EDT
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Have not been pulled over in some time but typically I do the following.
1. Pull as far over as possible so the officer has room next to my window or enough room left on the shoulder. 2. Turn the car off and put the keys on the dash. 3. Hit button to autoroll window all the way down. 4. Place writst on the steering wheel. If there is a passenger hands in plain view or on the dash. 5. When the officer arrives it is typically, "Do you know how fast you were going?" Me, "Yes, when I looked at the spedometer it said XX." 6. My licence and reg are usually in my back pocket and glove box, respectively. I will tell him where they are and ask permission to get them - slowly. Use two fingers to pick up reg. with the other hand in sight. Same for getting my wallet. I have done this before and the officer was noticeably appreciative. I got out to the ticket too. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:46:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:52:35 AM EDT
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I see no sense is being an asshole to a LEO for doing the job I am paying them to do. If he wants to ask questions fine I'll answer them in a respectful manner. I'm sure they put up with enough jerks and your "infringing on my rights type" all day that they don't need any grief from me. You don't want to deal with it, obey the law. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:52:45 AM EDT
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I believe you when you say you get the highlighted part done before the LEO gets to your window, but you are gambling with your life. It's not a good idea to be handling your carry gun when getting pulled over. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:54:04 AM EDT
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I've been pulled over numerous times and each time I have done exactly what you stated.. and never have I gotten a ticket. Hell one time a cop was following me, she pulled around me while I was sitting in a left turn pocket waiting to pull into a parking lot. I pulled back into traffic because I didn't want to pull into the parking lot with the officer sitting there. Immediately she came after me and lit me up. I pulled into the next parking lot and sat there doing the above mentioned steps. Next thing I knew I had 6 cop cars behind me and 3 officers approaching the car. Answered her questions honestly and politely... result... "Thank you for being honest and cooperative Mr. XXXX, you two have a good night." I had been speeding and did make an illegal lane change and had some vehicle violations (no front plate, etc.). There is no way I would of gotten out of all of that if it had not for me being polite and not giving the officer(s) any grief. Bottom line whether you like police officers or not... be courteous and honest and you'll be ahead of the game. -d |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 12:14:16 PM EDT
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Last time I acted polite and answered the cop's questions, it got me drilled, badgered and detained. When he asked where I was headed, I told him I was going to the airport. He then said "NOT WITH THAT GUN YOU'RE NOT!!! THAT'S ILLEGAL!". We then had a 5 minute debate about whether it was legal for me to have a gun in my parked car at the airport (I was catching a flight). Only when I told the cop that I would drop the gun off at my girlfriends house on the way to the airport, would he let me go. This is the kind of crap you get when you try to be honest and polite with the police. There is no law that prevents me from parking my car at the airport and having a concealed handgun in it.
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Posted: 2/28/2006 12:27:36 PM EDT
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But then I would be giving up my Consitutionally American Fundumental God Given right to be an asshole. 
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